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| Arr_U_C |
 Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:16 am Post subject: |
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hmmm.... itu lah masalahnya.... ikut je sound engineer tu.. die terer sgt ke? leh die dpt sound cam dimebag? aku rasa sbb tu la kot sound gig kat malaysia ni cam gampang..... padahal dlm gig yg sama.. kalo band oversea yg main, sound sedap? apa pendapat korang semua?
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| afiqme |
| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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| deadzid wrote: | | afiq wrote: | | aku rase still perlu kalau nak sound yg baik lagi .. tapi bukan DI biase tu la.. Behringer Ultra-G ., siap ade 4x12 speaker simulator .. |
err.. "sound yg lagi baik" dari segi apa tu? aku rasa konsep di-box nih just nak convert unbalanced signal to balanced signal, dan GDI21 boleh bikin tanpa masalah. kalau setakat nak speaker simulator, GDI21 ni ada amp simulator, mic placement, plus mod setting, lagi best aku rasa! so jgn membazir! |
ok agree.. aku pun baru tgk application kat manual die... 
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Arr_U_C wrote: | | hmmm.... itu lah masalahnya.... ikut je sound engineer tu.. die terer sgt ke? leh die dpt sound cam dimebag? aku rasa sbb tu la kot sound gig kat malaysia ni cam gampang..... padahal dlm gig yg sama.. kalo band oversea yg main, sound sedap? apa pendapat korang semua? |
bende simple.. bawak guitar,amp, efx sendiri ... dah tentu ko dpt sound ko ... tapi sound yg kuar kat loudspeaker still kat tgn engineer ...
biase aku tgk diorang nih wat gig main sempat ... biasenye engineer diorang pun main sempat jugak .. tak reti nak control feedback/humming mic ... pastuh siap ade yg pakai mic murah plak tuh... haw haw haw!!! tapi kekdang susah gak.. kate lah diorang dah spend gile babi kat kos sound system tapi audience datang boleh dikira... hehehe!!
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| deadzid |
| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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| deadzid wrote: | | afiq wrote: | | aku rase still perlu kalau nak sound yg baik lagi .. tapi bukan DI biase tu la.. Behringer Ultra-G ., siap ade 4x12 speaker simulator .. |
... kalau setakat nak speaker simulator, GDI21 ni ada amp simulator, mic placement, plus mod setting, lagi best aku rasa! so jgn membazir! |
sebenarnya depends pada individu.. ada satu review sorang mamat yg pakai SansAmp GT2 ni, dia tak suka mod setting pada unit ni, so dia combine dgn Behringer Ultra-G tu utk dpt cabinet simulation yg baik... so idea Afiq tu boleh diterima pakai... tapi sebagai cabinet simulator, bukan DI-box!
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| ultraman_cosmo |
| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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Zid aku dah nampak clone GT-2 yang behringer punya kat lelong... so dah sampai ler benda alah tu kat sini ruponya... hahhaa.
http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/DetailStd.asp?ProductID=1906283
Aku pun ader masalah pasal speaker simulation ne. Sebab kurang ngam kalo bunyi kalo tanpa speaker simulation memandangkan aku pakai power amp. Memang ingat nak beli ultra G tapi tangan tak sampai plak. Tapi sekarang ne aku guna speaker simulation dari Podxt. So kene cucuk juga pod selepas Gt-8 pasal gt punya speaker simulation tak berapa kaw. Preamp still dari GT pasal sound dia lagi tebal berbanding pod.
so delay or reverb boleh pilih nak pakai mana satu dari keduanya.
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| Arr_U_C |
| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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hmmmm...... entahlaaa..... kedatangan audience boleh banyak kalo jaga sound system dgn baik... takkan gig yg bagus tak mendapat review yg bagus... so next time kalo organizer tu wat lagi gig... sure ramai.... kena la melabur skit.... kali pertama buat mungkin tak ramai... sbb nama die tak top lagi.... kali kedua tu yg dia akan dpt pulangan.... korang tgk je gig anjuran tang ke, p.scream ke, mesti org ramai... sbb diorg jaga sound... mungkin tak sebaik mana pun sound dia tu ... tapi.... takde lah cam gampang...
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| deadzid |
| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:48 am Post subject: |
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| ultraman_cosmo wrote: | Zid aku dah nampak clone GT-2 yang behringer punya kat lelong... so dah sampai ler benda alah tu kat sini ruponya... hahhaa.
http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/DetailStd.asp?ProductID=1906283
Aku pun ader masalah pasal speaker simulation ne. Sebab kurang ngam kalo bunyi kalo tanpa speaker simulation memandangkan aku pakai power amp. Memang ingat nak beli ultra G tapi tangan tak sampai plak. Tapi sekarang ne aku guna speaker simulation dari Podxt. So kene cucuk juga pod selepas Gt-8 pasal gt punya speaker simulation tak berapa kaw. Preamp still dari GT pasal sound dia lagi tebal berbanding pod.
so delay or reverb boleh pilih nak pakai mana satu dari keduanya. |
laa kan aku dah kata benda tu mmg dah sampai mesia dah... aku siap dah beli sejibik haa... tapi belom puas godek lagi ni, takde masa...
tapi mengikut experiment aku so far, unit nih kureng sesuai kalau cucuk ke amp, susah nak dpt sound, kena ambik masa lebih sikit utk tweak eq dan adjust apa yg patut utk dpt sound yg best (aku takde masa nak carik sound thru amp)... tapi kalau plug-in direct ke mixer / soundcard, senang betul nak dapat sound metal pakai "california" mode nih! menurut beberapa review dr pengguna GT2, diaorang kata unit ni best kalau plugin ke solid state amp, especially Roland JC 120.
seperti distortion stompbox yg lain, unit nih menghasilkan noise pada setting treble / gain yg tinggi... so aku rasa kena letak noise supressor lepas unit nih. nanti lepas ni aku nak try connect pada GFX-5 pulak, then guna dia punya ZNR (zoom noise reduction) as a noise supressor... and maybe guna eq + cabinet simulation sekali.. hish banyak betul benda nak experiment, masa je takde!
tapi sebelum connect ke GDI21 ni, aku ingat nak plugin ke compressor dulu... ko rasa penting ke compressor nih? nak carik gak yg murah2, ade lobang tak? kalau boleh nak Boss CS-2...
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| ultraman_cosmo |
| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:09 am Post subject: |
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Aku baru jual CS-3 bulan lepas...
Tak yah pakai compresor lah zid, kalo setakat cs-3. pasal tak banyak effect sangat kat tone tu. buat lagi bising bunyi buzz ader la. lain ler kalo pakai mxr DYNA comp ader sikit berbeza bunyi.
Pasal noise supressor tu aku mula menyampah dengan boss punya pasal kalo Threshold semakin banyak akan mengurangkan sustain bunyi guitar. Mungkin kene carik MXR smart gate... sebab boss punya tak berapa smart...hehhehe.
Ader noise gate yang best ker korang boleh suggest. Jangan rack dah ler...heheheh
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| deadzid |
| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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tu la aku ada baca discussion kat forum luar, kebanyakan orang condemn Boss CS-3, kalau nak elok punya pakai Keeley Compressor... masalah nye menatang nih rare kalau kat mesia nih!
untuk noise supressor lak, hero2 aku (Ammot brothers of Arch Enemy) pakai Rocktron "Hush - The Pedal"... tapi Rocktron punya distributor kat mesia ni Mahalgany! tu pon satu masalah tuh! hehehe
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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zid,
benda˛ alah yg kau sebut kat atas nie kalau kau beli thru online lagi bagus! confirm ada & murah! that is after u know how good it is and determine gila nak beli la.
i think r.keeley holds an online store. kalau tak pun, kat eBay melambak!
aku selalu beli online nih. in fact baru˛ nie aku baru order lagi 7 pedals! so far alhamdullilah... xde kene klepet lagik!
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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ish, itu macam aku kirim kat ko je lah! ok tak? aku tak berani nak order online, tak geti pon satu hal gak!
ko ajar le camne... kalau pakai credit card bank2 mesia ni boleh ke?
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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zid,
memang online kebanyakan masanye pakai credit card. aku pun pakai credit card bank m'sia je. aku punye citibank tapi semua bank bleh pakai; Maybank ke, Public ke, StnChartd ke, UOB ke...etc!
nak lagi selamat kau buka akaun PayPal, so takde laa credit card kene fraud!
then kau masuk laa site yg ada online store; eBay or official site barang yg kau nak tu then isi form & order je laa. shipment around 2 weeks tapi kalau kau nak cepat kene bayar lebih la. utk satu pedal je shipment around USD15... nak cepat sket around USD35. insyaAllah selamat...
tapi kalau kau nak order dgn aku pun no hal je! lagi bagus coz shipping share˛ murah sikit. tapi aku baru lepas order jadi kena tunggu la. maybe next month aku nak order lagi. nanti aku sound kau. kau pm/email laa aku no. tepon kau...
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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alrighty! kalau ada barang baik yg aku berkenan nanti aku msg hang... tapi mostly kat e-bay nih, depa tak nak ship internationally, only within US / Canada je...
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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jgn risau, ade jugak yg ship worldwide. kena browse baik˛...
ok laa, pepahal kau contact aku nanti. kau ade no phone aku kan? cari je kat dlm Sudut Iklaneka tuh...
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| deadzid |
| Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:18 am Post subject: Guts Of Gore! |
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alrighty guys...
malam semalam aku tidor pukul 3 pagi semata-mata nak siapkan sample lagu yg aku record dengan Behringer GDI21 nih... so have a listen!
Title: Guts Of Gore
Duration: 1:10
Genre: Death Metal (instrumental)
Listen:Equipment List:
- BC Rich Platinum Warlock guitar
- Behringer V-Tone GDI21 preamp stompbox
- Behringer Eurorack UB802 mixer
- Behringer HPS3000 studio headphone
- Pentium II 400MMX with cheap soundcard
Software:
- Sonic Foundry Sound Forge (for recording)
- Sonic Foundry Vegas Pro (for mixing / post-efx)
- Guitar-Pro 4 (for drum / bass programming)
setup dia simple je, gitar -> GDI21 -> mixer -> soundcard... anyway, aku compare sound guitar kali ni dgn recording2 aku yg lepas2, aku rasa sound kali lebih menyerlah! lagi clear dari sound2 distortion Zoom 505 atau GFX-5, takde bunyi2 "pasir" tu dah... sound lebih raw! tapi maybe bunyi dia agak bright sikit, pasal masa recording aku guna headphone HPS3000 yg mana sound bass telah di 'boost' kan...
anyway, enjoy the sick intense sound of Death Metal!
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