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| afiqme |
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buat sendiri jek .. kos tak sampai 50 inggit pun...
ko beli box putih yg mcm suis lampu/kipas umah ko tuh...
pastuh ko beli yg lubang tempat nak cucuk jack 1/4 inch tuh.. ko beli 3... 1 untuk input.. lagi 2 output
pastuh ko pateri "tip" dari lubang input ke salah satu output tuh punye tip jugak,.. u need cable nak connect kan die... pastuh dari tip satu output tuh ko pateri ke tip output lagi satu...
sleeve die plak ko pateri dari sleeve input ke sleeve output yg kedua.. pastuh ko pateri dari sleeve output ke-2 ke sleeve output 1st ... so ko dpt la round connection... haw haw!!! 
simple project jek nih... aku pun tak sangke dulu benda mcm nih pun boleh dari ko nak beli pedal sampai beratus inggit.. slamat mencube!!!
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| afiqme |
| Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 11:07 am Post subject: |
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lupe plak.. box tuh ko kena carik penebuk lubang la nak buat lubang untuk komponen lubang jack ko tuh .. ko tebuk la memane yg ko suke.. janji ko tau mane input mane output..
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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ko cerita apa ni afiq? pasal nak buat custom pedal board ker? biasanya utk board punya material ko guna apa ek? papan biasa ker? aku rasa pakai computer casing punya penutup tepi tu pun bagus jugak..
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| afiqme |
| Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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bukan custom pedal board le... custom box nak kuar kat 2 amp.. maksud nye 1 input 2 output ..
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| that_vendor |
| Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:04 am Post subject: |
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| Arr_U_C wrote: | | kisah dia camni.... band aku ni satu je gitar... so aku tanak le live nanti bunyi die sebelah je keluar.. heheheh... bior packed bunyi tu... boleh ke? hmmm.. mr riki... wobo tu mmg cun.. handmade... whoaaa... ermm... boss line selector leh consider as looper ke? |
haah, itu krik dah jawabkan!
tang BOSS tuh aku kurang faham sket. aku tak penah lagi try bende alah nie. so takleh laa nak komen... mungkin Wan boleh tolong explain?
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| deadzid |
| Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 11:46 am Post subject: |
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mcm aku punya GFX-5 mmg ada 2 line-out, contoh masa jamming, kalau second guitarist takde, aku cucuk la 2nd line-out kat amp dia... so bila time clean sound atau solo, efx stereo chorus / delay memang wide dan menyerlah! best oo..! baru la stereo!
utk praktis kat rumah lak, aku ada 2 amp, (15watt & 20watt).. dan placing pon kalau boleh letak jauh2, baru la efx stereo tu berkesan, kalau letak sebelah2, baik pakai 1 amp je! and then eq utk setiap amp aku set lain2, so masa riffing amp kiri sound lain, amp kanan sound lain, mcm 2 guitar main serentak!
err... aku menyimpang dari topic asal ke?? sorry!
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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| deadzid wrote: | mcm aku punya GFX-5 mmg ada 2 line-out, contoh masa jamming, kalau second guitarist takde, aku cucuk la 2nd line-out kat amp dia... so bila time clean sound atau solo, efx stereo chorus / delay memang wide dan menyerlah! best oo..! baru la stereo!
utk praktis kat rumah lak, aku ada 2 amp, (15watt & 20watt).. dan placing pon kalau boleh letak jauh2, baru la efx stereo tu berkesan, kalau letak sebelah2, baik pakai 1 amp je! and then eq utk setiap amp aku set lain2, so masa riffing amp kiri sound lain, amp kanan sound lain, mcm 2 guitar main serentak!
err... aku menyimpang dari topic asal ke?? sorry! |
good zid.. aku nak try nanti kalau jamming 3 peace.. aku jadi excited plak membacanyeee...
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| Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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ok.. thank semua... banyak yg aku belajar... err afiq.. aku mintak maap... aku tak paham langsung term2 yg ko gunakan.. aku takleh nak imagine mende ape yg ko sebutkan tu.... tip, sleeve... semua tu tak paham..... ade diagram?
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| afiqme |
| Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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aku nih nak cakap bahase elektronik dan nak explain tak reti.. tapi nanti kalau ade gambar aku post .. bende tuh mmg senang abis la.. tak yah nak buat cip board pun.. hehe!!
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| Arr_U_C |
| Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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ok thanks... aku mmg tak tahu benda2 elektronik ni
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| deadzid |
| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 10:35 am Post subject: |
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elo guys... aku nak mintak pendapat korang...
aku tgh nak start collect efx pedals utk setup live... so far aku cuma ada gitar dan SansAmp GT2 (tapi GT2 nih actually aku nak guna utk recording je, bukan live)... aku nak bikin setup utk METAL punya sound. so any recommendations?
aku ada tgk2 setup org lain, ada pakai compressor la, whammy la, chromatic tuner la, etc tapi aku tak pasti sama ada aku perlukan semua tu atau tidak... ingat nak pakai noise gate, tapi org kata utk metal tak perlu noise gate, sbb metal is noise so we need more noise!!(??).. betui ka?
for starters, aku try utk follow setup guitar icon aku - Michael Ammott (Arch Enemy):- Vox Wah
- MXR Phase 90
- Rocktron Hush The Pedal
- Boss Chromatic Tuner
- Digitech Digidelay
...tapi semua nih masuk ke KRANK amps Revolution Series 1 yg mega power tuh dan tak mampu nak dimiliki oleh pemuzik cikai cam aku nih! hehe
kalau Rocktron Hush The Pedal tuh aku dah survey kat eBay dlm RM300+, Vox wah tu pulak susah nak carik (nyesal jual crybaby 535 aku dulu!), MXR Phase 90 lak aku tak tau kegunaan dia utk apa, Digitech DigiDelay about RM500++ kat singapore (bid 2nd hand kat eBay tapi kalah!)... KRANK amp pulak RM6000++!!! (tunggu aku kaya raya baru boleh beli).
so any other pedals yg sesuai utk tambah kat soon to be rig aku nih??
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| kudo |
| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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you did the right thing by checking out whaty our idols use (guitargeek.com is another good source but tak update dah lama dah). obviously banyak lagi parameters yg kau kena ambik kira (amp apa kau pakai, bro? - in my humblest of opinions, baik kau belanja duit utk amplifier first - that will make or break your sound) apart from just the pedals!!
noisegate as you said dlm metal tak penting if you are riffing nonstop, tapi if there is a quiet bit/gap in the middle of a song, kalau bunyi guitar kau banyak hum, boleh dengar and you don't want that.
about 'rare' pedals like the vox wah (not rare over here - belambak kat eBay ), i'm sure saudara riki 'kiasu king' rahman can point you in the right direction (ie eBay la mana lagi). if you see what he already has, you'd never think he is living in malaysia!
good luck in your search.
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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respek la zid.. ko dah beli san amp eh..
Betul cakap krik, ko cari amp yg bagus dulu. Kalau ko nak build sound signature, ko cari la head. Ko boleh bawak head tu ke mana2 ko punya gig/jamming dan you'll always get your sound. Krangg tu mmg mahal tapi ko boleh ciplak amp tu. www.ceriatone.com boleh buatkan. Kos lebih kurang 2-3 ribu je. Riki yang ada head Marshall JMP original tahun 70an pun sanggup jual head tu sebab head yg dia tempah kat ceriatone jauh lebih bagus(pada taste dia). Sebab kat situ buat handmade. Kalau Marshall keluar handmade model, harga 10 ribu pun blum tentu dpt. So berbaloi ko tempah head ko.
Kalau ko nak kumpul pedal pulak, ko kena tau apa yang ko nak dan perlu. Pedulikan cakap orang zid. Do your own research(i know u're good at this) ttg fungsinya dan sumbangan pedal tu pada sound ko. If u think u need it, than u can have it. yang penting mesti ada reason.
JANGAN JADI MACAM RIKI sebab riki tu dia beli dulu baru fikir apa reason dia beli pedal tu. Pastu dia pun jual balik hahah. Dia byk duit takpe.. kalau ko byk duit pun boleh ikut jejak langkah dia. tapi bila nak jual balik, offer la aku dulu yek..
p/s: dulu aku dah nasihatkan ko sebelum jual Crybaby 535 tu.. thats a good wah indeed. Ko nak beli wah Vox, ko kena tau apa jenis frequency dia dan effect dia pada sound ko nanti. Kalau ko suka baru ko beli.
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| deadzid |
| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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krik:
no wonder la aku search "vox wah" kat eBay dia return sikit je result, sbb aku search dlm category "musical instrument".  thanx for the link krik! tapi dlm banyak2 list tu, satu je model Vox V847 yg ship worldwide, yg lain within US je... nanti aku akan bid yg tu, tapi kena tunggu dulu sbb aku tgh winning bid on Digitech Digidelay nih 
and you're right, maybe i'll consider getting the noise gate too! but so far my SansAmp GT2 produce less noise than my previous GDI21, but i've to use noiseless cables la. but like i said, the GT2 is for recording, i'll be getting another distortion pedal for live setup (preferably Zoom Tri Metal TM-01)...
best la hang dok kat england, takde masalah nak carik benda2 nih! bila nak balik mesia? boleh kirim.. (kekekke tak malu) 
izuan:
weh betul ke ceriatone boleh clone amp KRANK tuh?? mcm mana dia nak tau specification dia? by the way, kalau nak invest utk amp tu takde masalah, cuma yg masalah nye kat mesia nih kalau nak gig / show, biasanya amp (dan cabinet - jika ada) akan disediakan. takkan nak bikin show 20-30 minit aku nak bawak amp aku, then nak kena setup lagi, leceh... lain la kalau show tu memang khas utk band aku je main! ehehhe...
wan, band aku setakat cover band yg suka masuk contest / free show je... tak lebih dari tuh... 
hmm research yg aku buat biasanya based on soundclip je... kalau presentation soundclip pedal tu bagus, maka aku pon mula la terpengaruh! mula la meracau, tak senang duduk! hari2 dok search kat eBay! by the way, satu kelemahan Vox Wah nih is that it runs on 9V battery only, no power adaptor.. tapi boleh modified kot?
thanx guys for your tips n help! so far, ini perancangan aku (in order from guitar to amp):- Vox V847 wah pedal
- Zoom Tri Metal distortion (discontinued, tapi aku akan cari sampai dapat!)
- Rocktron Hush The Pedal (masih dlm pertimbangan)
- DOD FX-40B equalizer (utk booster - dlm pertimbangan)
- Digitech XDD Digidelay (utk solo / clean - tengah bid nih!)
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| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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ceriatone kalau kau pegi website dia, dia buat replicas of well-known vintage marshall and fender amps. i've never had the pleasure of visiting ceriatone but i reckon as an amp builder, sure brader tu tau macamana nak buat dual/triple recto amps macam mesa.
as for encik riki (btw, i'm surprised dia tak mencelah dlm discussion ni yet), dia buat amp macam stone gossard of pearl jam (signal diagram in the official synergy website is outdated - you can see the amp in any of the current live pearl jam gig DVDs). the amp is a sal trentino head which is custom made. mamat trentino ni kerja dia servicekan amp utk eddie vedder, mike mccready and stone g.
mana riki dpt schematics, aku tak tau (dia email brother tu ke apa ke, ntah).
berbalik kat ceriatone, aku respek org malaysia dah start buat benda ni pasal tube amps mahal nak mampos kat malaysia. this was how randall smith started many yrs ago, when he started his business hotrodding fender amps for the likes of carlos santana. santana cakap kat dia, "wow! this amp boogies!". melekat lah nama mesa boogie (ni bukan cerita dongeng... hahaha ).
good luck 'krank'ing.
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