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| eos |
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| aku pakai boss adapter + daisy chain (split to 5 pedals) = MXR Distortion, Boss Chorus, Boss Delay, Ibanez Delay, MXR EQ... so far takde problem apa2..lagi dua efx kene pakai battery..chaitt |
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| kurt_maisu |
| Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:16 am Post subject: |
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aku pun pakai bateri...harap sempat sampai waktu show....bleh beli baru
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| strinq |
| Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:50 am Post subject: |
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| izuanhafez wrote: | | kudo.. aku pakai adaptor casio je.. apa negative effectnya? ada tak? |
haha, like all cheaper materials, it might blow or cause some voltage fluctuation that might blow ur pedals (haha, i stress on the word MUNGKIN)
i think the more expensive ones r safer...
oh the 1 spot is 1200mA!!!
looks exactly like the boss PSA120
my friend bought it at less than rm100 last time
(not sure the price now) |
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| deadzid |
| Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:31 am Post subject: |
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oi wan.. aku dah check malam tadi... aku punya Zoom Tri Metal distortion dan Dano Fish n Chip eq kedua-duanya sedut 300mA setiap satu... so kalau nak power-up dua pedal ni dah 600mA, mana cukup kalau pakai adaptor Casio tu je! ko biar betul wan, meletop pedal ko kang!
let's say one pedal consumes about 300mA, so if you have like 4 pedals = 1200mA, so i'd say 1 SPOT is a better option to power-up 4 pedals at one time... tapi aku baca kat website, 1 SPOT ni boleh cover up to 20 pedals(??) at once, betul ke? meaning aku dah salah tafsir la..?
orait ABANG kudo, thanx for the info! uweeekkk...  (nak muntah aku)
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| ultraman_cosmo |
| Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:34 am Post subject: |
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Pernah tak korang dapat masalah daisy chain tak sekufu dengan adapter...
Adapter ok daisy chain ok tapi sambung jer tak kuar karan...
or jack daisy chain susah nak masuk ker dalam soket kat pedal.
Aku rasa berapa gadget boleh sambung kat 1200mA punya adapter bergantung kepada hasil tambah Arus bagi setiap pedal. Tapi kalo keupayaan adalah 1200mA, total arus sepatutnya < (1200mA tolak (100mA or 50mA sebangai rezerb))... kalo lebih tu memang sah ler bahaya... Rumah terbakar tak der ler tapi gadget blow saper ler tau.
tapi single pedal sambung panjang panjang chain sampai 20 bijik akan manyebabkan signal dari guitar jadi lemah. So tone dah tak kemana. Sebab tu orang guna split AB switch or bus switch bagi elakan dari gadget sambung panjang sangat walo pun ader yang tak aktif.
Tapi barang electric ne boleh rosak dalam tapi dalam keadaan working fine. Kekurang arus boleh nyebab litar tak stabil and akan mendatang gangguan kepada komponen kecik macam chip. Gadget tak terus rosak, tapi kebolehan componen ne akan menurun, macam capasitor tak boleh dah simpan cas sseperti nilai sepatutnya so bunyi dah tak standard. Tapi kita tak sedar, gadget kita semakin kurang tone, bunyi makin hampes, bunyi tak smooth and noise semakin bertambah. Lebih kurang macam silent killer lah masalahnya.
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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ultraman ... good info dude..
aku punya peal mmg dah semakin noise ni..
zid.. setakat ni aku tak tau lagi Jackhammer aku dgn Crybaby Wah aku makan kuat mana. Aku ada dua pedal tu jer. ts9 belum amik lagi kat KL..
lagi satu problem aku ni,
bila aku punya chain :
guitar-->jackhammer-->amp
pedal tu ok jer senyap takde noise. But bila aku start masukkan wah aku :
guitar-->wah-->jackhammer-->amp
terus ada keluar bunyi bass berdengung. Bila aku on wah bunyi berdengung tu makin kuat gila.. apa puncanya tu?
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| deadzid |
| Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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ground loop tu apa? macam polarity ke beb?
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| silbi |
| Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 1:55 pm Post subject: can we sambung 2 daisy chain sets with one adapter? |
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hello peeps...i'm new here. just wanna menyebok.
i'm using a 5 point daisy chain as well. Mahal jugak siut pasal brand Ibanez - around RM60+ kot...but it's been great (using it to power 4 pedals and 1 tuner).
For info, i've tried using the chain with a boss adapter and zoom adapter...(forgot the model name) Both has been splendid so far - zoom is of course cheaper...
Aku pernah nampak cap ayam punye around RM20+ at harmony music store, near uptown...so might get this if my effects terberanak lagi....(planning to get those new effects from behringer - wah, equaliser, compressor / sustainer)
A query - is it possible for me to just sambung another set of daisy chain to my existing one and power all the pedals using one adaptor. Or do i have to get another adapter to power this new set of daisy chain?
great site btw guys! |
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| ultraman_cosmo |
| Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:19 am Post subject: |
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Aku pakai winstar kaler putih regulated adaptor 1200mA, beli dari sorang jamtank secondhand plak tu. Winstar punya adapter harga dalam 50 ker 60 biasa kedai letrik banyak. Kat jalan pasar lagi murah adapter ne sebab memang made in China pun. Dah dekat lama juga pakai tapi ketepatan voltage masih ngam (cheack pakai multimeter ler). Pasal daisy chain aku tak berapa nak memilih sangat, kalo dapat yang paling murah dalam dunia. janji boleh sambung setiap gadget.
Kalo pasal adapter, aku pun tak kisah mahal ker murah tapi yang penting regulated DAN jangan lama sangat ler bukak adaptor tu. Aku biasa dalam 1 jam or 2 aku tutup jap kasih sejuk skit... TV sony beli ribu ribu bukak straight 2 and 3 ari pun boleh rosak... hahahahha.
Sebenarnya aku kengkadang berbulu juga bila orang sanggup beli gadget mahal mahal tapi kedekut sangat nak beli adapter bagus skit.
Macam beli keta BMW tapi pakai tayar celup.
Tapi aku paling tak suka bila gadget ader soket power macam DOD... hahahha.
Pasal daisy chain nak sambung daisy chain lagi sebenarnya tak kisah sebab daisy chain sentiasa bersambung selari parallel. tapi jangan sampai banyak sangat gadget. kalo adapter 1200mA, stakat boss punya pedal, sambung 8 gadget pun boleh. Tapi kalo adapter korang just 500mA, aku syorkan setiap adapter pakai satu jer daisy chain jer.
Tapi bukan semua daisy chain sesuai utk gadget pasal soket setiap padel berbeza ikut brand. Aku pernah beli daisy chain murah kat woh fatt dan rupanya dia tak ngan plak dengan crybaby aku sebab tempat nak masuk soket tu ke dalam sangat. Pasal kepala soket tak cukup panjang and terpaksa ler aku potong skit getah penahan supaya besi soket tu jadi lebih panjang.
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| deadzid |
| Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:56 am Post subject: |
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hmm Winstar ye nama dia? nanti aku usya... bagus jugak nih.. pasal kebanyakan adaptor yg mahal2 pon sebenarnya made in china jugak! even adaptor Casio RM20 yg CK Music jual utk power up zoom pedals pon made in china...
hmm daisy chain ada jual kat Woh Fatt ye? berapa RM ko beli? ttg socket pedal mcm DOD, Line 6, Electro Harmonic, etc yg pelik2 tu boleh guna extention yg sesuai... kalau ko tgk adaptor pasar malam yg bercabang2 tuh kan ada mcm2 size... mcm tu la lebih kurang konsep dia.
aku bukan kedekut nak beli adpator yg bagus, tapi kalau adaptor tu harga sampai RM200, baik aku simpan duit tu beli gadget lagi hahaha... aku lagi bebulu kalau dgr adaptor harga mcm tu punya mahal..
ni aku ada satu kemusykilan besar... aku ada baca yg Boss pedals secara random makan lebih kurang 20mA sebijik... tapi aku tgk kat Zoom Tri Metal dgn Dano eq aku dia tulis kena pakai adaptor 300mA... adakah ini bermaksud bahawa pedal tu sahaja akan sedut 300mA current??
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| ultraman_cosmo |
| Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 11:39 am Post subject: |
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Aha, aku pun terkezut juga dano fish and chip tulis 300mA... tapi aku rasa tu bukan . tapi aku rasa tak sampai tu kot. manual sheet tak der ker zid. Aku rasa current draw dia kurang dari 300mA, kira pelekat tu standard kot pasal manufacture assume gadget diaorang tak kan cecah samapi 300mA... utk keselamatan.
Biasa memang adaptor 300mA tu paling minimum require ler utk semua gadget. Tapi biasa gadget jarang sedut banyak sangat karan. lain ler ader tube kat paderl tu...heheheh.
Biasa distortion jarang pakai current banyak, biasa moduler yang complax macam delay, phase, chorus yang pakai currect banyak... (boss lah).
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| Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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kat manual sheet takde mentioned pulak berapa current draw dia... hmm in that case kalau single pedal sedut about less than 30mA, then Casio adaptor 500mA aku ni pon dah cukup utk power up 5 pedals dgn satu daisy chain.. kalau itu mcm aku just kena beli daisy chain je la!
kat mana nak carik daisy chain yg murah dan berapa RM?
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| Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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Kat woh fatt aku beli RM20 ari tu kalo tak silap...
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| Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 9:12 am Post subject: |
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Aku dapat pertanyaan pasal daisy chain bila connect to adapter tak boleh power gadget padahal kalo pakai adapter sahaja tak jadi masalah.
Paling penting sekali adalah test dulu daisy chain kalo beli kat kedai. Atau pasatikan kedai sanggup bagi warranty boleh anta balik kalo rosak.
Biasanya kita check, socket satu persatu pada single gadget utk pastikan semua point tak der masalah.
And kalo ader point free utk rantai effect, jangan biarkan socket free tu bersepah and bersentuhan dengan benda lain seperti body gadget kerana boleh nyababkan short cuircuit. guna masking tape ker aper ker tutup kepala socket tu.
Memperbaiki masalah main socket daisy chain.
DAlam main socket daisy tu ada satu jarum (-ve) lebih kurang macam socket areal TV. Masalah biasa berlaku litar terputus bila jarum ne tak bersentuhan dengan permukaan dalam pada soket adapter bila kita joinkan keduanya. So kita perlu pasatikan jarum ne bersentuhan supaya litar tak putus.
Jika dilihat bebetul, jarum tu ada belahan di tengahnya. So cuba rengangkan sedikit belahan jarum tengah tu supaya ia senang bersentuhan dengan soket adapter nanti. Gunakan lah skru driver test pen or hujung cutter utk renggankan belahan tu sedikit demi sedikit. Sesambil tu try daisy chain dengan gadget hingga ada power. jangan renggang terlalu besar hingga tak leh masuk socket adapter karang. Dan jangan patahkan jarum tu karang kene beli daisy chain baru... hehhehehehe
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