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| IZZI |
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| omarjamaludin wrote: | | aku rasanye akan sentiasa memakai kancil 1998 aku ni sampai tak leh jalan la gamaknye |
aku pun still dgn Perodua Rusa 1.3GX tahun 1995.. naik van la rock braderr..huhu
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| Scumgrief wrote: | | ..harga kereta kat Malaysia antara yang paling mahal kat dunia... Time-time macam nilah diorang kena hapuskan/turunkan cukai kereta, apataknya kancil pun dekat RM30 000, gila ke apa. |
one of the answer i think..heheh
| Scumgrief wrote: | Lagi satu yang aku namapak kerajaan ni sebok kata nak mengatasi kesesakkan lalulintas kat KL ni, sepanjang dah dekat 8 tahun aku duduk kat KL ni, aku tengok makin teruk adala...
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| Scumgrief |
| Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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Orang beli kereta banyak-banyak sebab apa...sebab tak sanggup sakit jiwa tunggu public transport.. macam aku la...
Aku dah kerja dah 5 tahun dah, dan dalam 5 tahun aku kerja ni, 4 tahun aku naik public transport (komuter, bas, teksi) dan aku dah tak tahan, walaupun mahal, aku sanggup/terpaksa beli kereta jugak...
Kalau public transport ok, aku tak beli la kereta.
They way I see it, it is as if the government sengaja taknak public transport ni ok, supaya orang beli kereta. More specifically, beli kereta Proton...
To understand how expensive cars in malaysia is:-
South Korea has a percapita income of USD14000
Malaysia has a percapita income of USD4700
Source: http://www.finfacts.com/biz10/globalworldincomepercapita.htm
KIA Cerrato 2.0 (a made in Korea car)= 17 130 000 Won in Korea = RM65,828.70
Source: http://www.kia.co.kr/Index.htm
Proton perdana 2.0(A) (a made in malaysia car) = RM 99,096.94
Source: http://www.eon.com.my/article.cfm?id=115
Seriously:
The koreans who earns more than triple the amount of the malaysians paid almost half of what malaysians pay for a same powered locally made car... WTF?
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| omarjamaludin |
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kononnye the money yg patut subsidi duit minyak tu akan divert ke improving the public transportation and traffic...
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| pali |
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itulah dia. kononnya duit tu untuk pembangunan. aku setuju dan sokong kalau untuk pembangunan or kebaikan masyarakat sejagat.
Tetapi masalahnya bila kat part execution selalu .
poor management, highly overprice consultants, projek tergendala la, tender gomen bagi kat entah sape2.. sub-con sana, sub-con sini, last2 yg end-user dpt apa?
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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Punca harga kereta di Malaysia tinggi antaranya ialah raw kos, TAX dan francais komisyen. Macam Proton Perdana, itu aku anggap kereta tukar lencana jer(same goes to Naza and Perodua).. Most of the technologies is not ours.. so terpaksa bayar komisyen dan tax.. Berbanding dgn KIA .. they have thier technologies, kereta kebal, train koc pun dia ada buat.. Some goes to Hundai they have their own technology expertise..(Komuter KTM kita brand hyundai).
Tapi cuba kalau kita compare harga durian atau tongkat ali antara Malaysia dgn Korea pulak..
Tax di Malaysia mmg tinggi.. Proton pun kena tax haha.. Aku teringat last time Mahalel jawab tuduhan yg mengatakan Proton telah merugikan kerajaan. Mahalel jawab anggaran jumlah cukai yg proton bayar pada kerajaan sejak awal penubuhan ialah 10 billion. Proton Gen2 1.6 tu kalau kerajaan kecualikan tax, boleh dijual pada harga sekitar 40k shj.. Gen2, kereta yg paling banyak komponen yg guna teknologi sendiri termasuk engine (lotus proton dah beli kira enjin sendiri la). Gear box aku tak tau tapi kalau aircond, Denso is Japanese.
But still aku percaya, proton sebenarnya mmg boleh dijual dgn harga lebih murah dari skrg kalau dia tak mengambil kesempatan atas ketinggian harga kereta2 jenama lain yang juga disebabkan TAX.
(Kalau nak sembang lagi panjang, boleh tambah soalan lagi : Kemana perginya hasil cukai? hehe.. mesti mcm2 jawapan ada punya.. haha..
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| IZZI |
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| pali wrote: |
Tetapi masalahnya bila kat part execution selalu .
poor management, highly overprice consultants, projek tergendala la, tender gomen bagi kat entah sape2.. sub-con sana, sub-con sini, last2 yg end-user dpt apa? |
ha ni aku mmg sependapat.. execution selalu poor.. kadang2 ada individu yang jadi nila.. habis rosak susu..
Daniel.. ko baru angkat myvii.. cuba ko compare head to head dgn kereta savvy ridzi dari perspektif ko..
ye la.. myvii teknologi toyota, savvy tempatan + enjin renault. Yang aku tau cuma myvii lagi spacy dari savvy.. yg lain2 aku tak berpeluang mengetest lagi..
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| deadzid |
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| karbaid |
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keter 1.3 iswara aeroback aku tinggalkan kat kg. kalo nak bercuti jln jauh baru aku pakai. sini pegi mana2 aku naik motor yamaha 110ss je. alasan: harga minyak naik cam laknat, harga tol naik mcm laknat, traffic jam teruk mcm laknat dan parking berbayar mcm laknat. waaa..... kedekutnya aku.
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| Scumgrief |
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| GryMlock wrote: | itu masaala cuwacca
kita ta bole buat apa apa. |
Tuhan pun tada suka sama sayya....
Ok betulla ko cakap Izuan, tax kat kereta tu yang membebankan pengguna. Aku ambik contoh satu lagi. Proton Savvy
Proton Savvy kat malaysia
RM43,000 OTR (insurance/Road tax)
Proton Savvy paling cibai dekat UK
RM39,000 OTR (insurance/Road tax/ABS/EBD/Airbags)
Basically we are getting an inferior product at a much expensive price...
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| pali wrote: | itulah dia. kononnya duit tu untuk pembangunan. aku setuju dan sokong kalau untuk pembangunan or kebaikan masyarakat sejagat.
Tetapi masalahnya bila kat part execution selalu .
poor management, highly overprice consultants, projek tergendala la, tender gomen bagi kat entah sape2.. sub-con sana, sub-con sini, last2 yg end-user dpt apa? |
quoted for truth...
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| IZZI |
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aku ada cd Jeremy Clarkson (famous europe car reviewer) review kereta Kelisa. Sapa pernah tgk? heheheheh....
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| omarjamaludin |
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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hahahha betul!
dia tak review pun.. dia pergi kedai keta yg jual kelisa tu, dia beli.. pastu dia bawak ke seberang jalan dia pecahkan guna tukul besar kat depan taukeh kedai tu.. pastu dia bawak kat tpt lain dia bom pulak keta tu.. itu je sessi review dia utk kereta kelisa tu.. sedey siot tgk..
alasan dia buat mcm tu.. katanya company yg buat kereta tu tak ada passion, bukan betul2 nak fikir macam mana nak buat kereta tapi lebih pada nak buat keuntungan.. heheh..
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