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mic_checkus
PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:18 am    Post subject: how??penin2.. Reply with quote



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halo guys there...sorry to ask dis stupid question.but i really need ur help!!i juz bought zoom gfx8(2nd hand),tp aku x tau sgt nk operate menatang 2.aku dh try setting tp x dpt gak sound yg aku nk. wat u guys think about gfx8 nie,mmg sound dia bodo ke aku yg bodo?huhu..ade any idea x utk dptkn setting/sound yg sedap?penin2..
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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huh..ni kena tanya mr deadzid the zoom expert..tunggu saja mesti dia reply..
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IZZI
PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Sound sedap ni susah nak cakap sebab bergantung pada taste individu.

1st thing ko mesti tau apa sound yang ko nak. Sound tu mesti selalu terngiang2 kat telinga atau berlegar2 dalam kepala. kalau tak ada, ko dengar la bunyi guitar idola ko banyak2 sampai sound dia tu terngiang2 kat telinga ko.

Utk tweaking zoom ko tu, ini je benda general yg aku dapat kasi mengikut mazhab kefahaman aku(aku takde zoom). So bila ko dah faham nanti, ko boleh ikut suka hati ko nak buat mcmana. Ini utk permulaan saja. Basic requirement utk explaination aku ni, ko mesti dah faham apa fungsi BASS, MIDDLE dan TREBLE eq.

1. OFF/Bypass dulu ko punya zoom fx atau apa2 pedal effect tu. Sebab ko kena setting sound pada amp dulu(no distortion/overdrive at all).
...1.1)Set volume amp berapa kuat ko nak.
...1.2)Check kadang2 amp ada effect dia sendiri macam delay, chorus bla bla. Ko off semua effect tu.
...1.3)Then pulas knob BASS, MIDDLE dan TREBLE pada amp tu separuh(pukul 12). Ko dgr sound clean guitar ko skrg.. ko suka tak? kurang bass? naikkan sikit bass. Sound terlalu menggigit? turunkan treble. Sound tak cukup bulat? naikkan middle.. ini semua bergantung pada taste ko.
...1.4) sound clean dah siap set. Bunyinya sedap telinga didengar dan memenuhi citarasaku. Kalau tak sedap ulang step 1.3 lagi sampai ko puas hati.

2. Sekarang baru ON kan ko punya zoom gfx.

3. Offkan semua effect tak berkaitan mcm delay/chorus/blabla. Cocentrate pada overdrive/distortion sound saja dulu.
...3.1) Pilih bunyi distortion yang diminati. Nak bunyi berat? bunyi blues? haa pilih pilih..
...3.2)bunyi distortion atau overdrive yang digemari telah dipilih. Tapi ada kureng sikit la sound dia.
...3.3)adjust dia punya EQ(BASS,MIDDLE,TREBLE) sampai puas hati.
...3.4) kalau tak cukup gain, adjust gain(amount of distortion) sampai ke tahap yg dikehendaki.
...3.5) Skrg, ko mesti dah puas hati dgn sound basic tu. kalau tak puas hati, ulang dari langkah 3.1 balik. Kalau dah puas hati, adjust volume pada gfx tu. volume seeloknya sama kuat dgn volume amp. Maksudnya, bila ko off zoom, volume mesti sama kuat bila ko ON zoom ko tu. Balanced.

4. Bila dah dpt sound, baru la masukkan effect2 lain macam Delay/Reverb/Chorus. Ikut apa yg ko nak la.

5. Save. Kalau tak save, nanti ko kena set balik semua.
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silbi
PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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rrr...u hv the manual with u? if not, try d/load dulu..then ikut procedure situ dulu about the basics...i'm sure after a while, ud get the hang of it.

i got a zoom 707ii...mula2 pening gak...lama2 pandai sikit...now i think this baby is more than enuff...tapi gatal gak nak upgrade kadang2...nafsu2..haha
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mic_checkus
PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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thanx 4 da information bro..aku manual semua dh ade tp masih gagal menghasilkn sound yg aku nk.aku bkn nk yg lebih2 pn,aku pn bknnya advanved sgt tp sekadar menyedapkn telinga pun jadila...itu hari baru masuk battle,aku nk crk sound utk lead.tp still x puah hati..tp aku bantai jela(nasib baik menang gak)huhu....ade setengah membe aku ckp,eq kt amp tu semua kena letak kol 12,adjust kt eq zoom je.tp aku rasa zoom nie bunyik treble dia menyakitkn telinga la,so aku potong dia punya treble,tp bunyik cm tahik jugak.b4 dis aku penah tgk org main pakai gfx8 ni,sound dia ok jugak,xdela sebodo sound yg aku dpt.so aku rasa mesti ade benda yg tersembunyi dlm zoom nie,kena letak lebih cabai nie..anyway,thanx 4 ur infornation..sesape lg yg ade info yg bagus pasal zoom ni tlgla bantu aku..sbb rasa nk jual benda nie makin menebal dlm lubuk jiwa aku...............
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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aku tak sure gfx8 ni ada preamp ke tidak. Kalau gfx8 ni ada preamp, ko boleh connect dari GFX8 terus ke port Return Loop (biasanya port ni ada kat bhg belakang amp). (Bukan lagi cucuk ke input port kat depan amp).

Bila ko cucuk kat Return Loop ni, bermakna ko telah cancelkan(bypass) preamp pada amp tersebut.(kesannya, segala EQ pada amp tu tak ada fungsi lagi). So total control untuk EQ semua dari GFX8. Kalau ko boleh buat teknik ni, sound nipis dan tajam tu ada kemungkinan akan hilang. Cuba la..
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Otaizam
PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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masalah nak guna multiple effect biasa la macam ni....

pengalaman aku dah pakai 2 multiple efect, akan duduk depan amp dan effect tu lebih kurang setiap hari dalam average 30minit ke 1 jam sehari selama satu bulan berpandukan manual sampai lunyai, adjust, edit, save, beribu2 kali......

tapi once aku dah dapat sound yang aku nak. dah tak tukau2 lagi,

kalau effect second hand ni kan, mungkin jugak bagus kalau reset to factory setting. Then kalau nak adjust la sikit2, sebab biasanya factory setting ni in general dah sedap.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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best gak zoom efx8 sebab ade sound editor
hook up midi lepas tu just lepak depan pc untuk cari sound yang kite nak
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IZZI
PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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aku setuju dgn cara otaizam study dgn multifx dia.. mmg biasanya makan masa kadang2 samapi sebulan baru betul2 faham dan master..

tu penting.. so ikut la manual.. dan fahamkan fungsi setiap button...
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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masalah aku pun sama ngan zoom 707ii.. dah berbulan2 masih tak reti aku nak save patch ikut susunan aku nak.. masalah bila jamming nak cari dari flanger ke metal mau kelang kabut memijak benda tu.. aku dah try dari manual dia ... mcm tak jadi je.. last2 jamming guna je ds2 seketul .. ehehhe zoom jadi perhiasan je kat bawah.. aduhhh Embarassed
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