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LESTEBIAT
PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:52 am    Post subject: AMP SETTING Reply with quote



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Haiiii Akumm semua...

saya ada soalan nak tanyer lah...amp setting bro semua..manalah tau klu bro bro semua leh kongsi ngan ahli ahli ibands ni...

setting dari segi BASS,TREBLE,MIDDLE,PRESENCE,DRIVE.

setting dari segi efek cth nyer delay,chorus,flanger,distort,dan apa jua lah
dan klu bro bro semua ada sound klon pon ok gak ..menarik tu..
dan lagi satu setting bro bro semua ni sesuai utk muzik apa dan klu sound klon tu sapa guitariz nyer,

dan lagi satu soalan saya boleh tak bro bro kongsi ngan saya klu bro bro tau lah ....gitariz handalan dunia apa amp yg derang pakai...cth nyer mcm vai dan legacy nyer..contoh ajelah..

harap bro semua dpt bantu pada saya dan ahli ahli lain yg memerlukan ....

ok bye
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LESTEBIAT
PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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alo ultra ,izzi tolong la ....
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omarjamaludin
PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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boleh more specific? which amp you're planning to use etc? what kind of sound u looking for? main music style ape? kalau very general agak susah nak tlg..
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IZZI
PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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dia bukan mintak tolong tu.. dia mintak share je setting2 kita semua..hehhe

so ni sound aku:

untuk aku punya taste la, elemen penting dalam sound aku ialah BASS dan MIDDLE. Aku just apply treble untuk keluarkan bunyi pick. Biasanya setting aku tak pernah sama sebab aku belum ada amp sendiri lagi (dah beli baru ni tapi still kat KL). So bila gi jamm tu, amp tak semestinya sama menyebabkan settign aku lain2. Just follow telinga aku masa tu la.
generally ini setting yg aku selalu guna:

Bass : memang confirm aku pulas lebih dari separuh.
Middle : pukul 12 hingga 3 (tgk jenis amp) kalau amp fender boleh jadi aku pulas habis.
Treble : secukup rasa hanya untuk keluarkan tone masa pick string.

Bila tone shapping aku dah jumpa, tapi bunyi terlalu mellow then barulah aku apply presence secukup rasa.

So kesimpulan dari sound aku tu, sound ada bite masa saat awal picking string dan lepas tu barulah bass + mid tu muncul.

untuk drive, aku tak guna drive yg banyak. Cukup2 makan jer selagi aku dpt dgr bunyi tone string tu.

Untuk guitarist punya jenis amp :
Neal Schon : Randall
Andy Timmon : Laney
Yngwie : Marshall
Steve Lukather : tak pasti..
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Otaizam
PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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aku punya amp setting,

bergantung pada effect yang aku pakai, sama ada multiple effect atau analog.

kalau aku pakai multieffect, aku nye setting adalah:
Bass : pukul 12
Mid : pukul 12
Treble : pukul 12
Reverb : 1.5 hingga 3 sesedap rasa.

Tapi kalau kalau aku pakai analog atau straight guitar to amp:

Bass : pukul 3 atau full blast(kalau main metallica song
Mid : pukul 11
Treble : pukul 1
Reverb : 1.5 hingga 3 sesedap rasa.
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LESTEBIAT
PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Thankzzz otaizam dan izzi. omarjamalludin nyer camner plak....thankz la sebab korang tak kedezut nak share ilmu....korang kepala mat salleh la..

Izzi klu ko jem bg tau la aku nak gi tgk la kol jer aku 012-354 9 354.

Otaizam jem kat ner.

pada yg belum reply jgn la segan segan.....aku amat berterima kasih .....

pada deadzid rasa nyer mcm pernah selisih masa BOTB kat tasik idaman tak silap.

Izzi klu boleh aku nak tgk ko jem ngan nak jumpe ko.sebab lagi best klu dpt jumpe orgnyer baru lah ada kembang itu muzik...korang ni ada pernah buat gath ke klu ada bg tau la

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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aku jarang pikir pasal tone ..main gitar pun tak seberapa hehe..cucuk v-amp dlm PA system aku pastu goreng2 gitu2 je...ntah la kena berdisplin lagi skit nak belajar gitar ni..
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Bass, Mid, Treble: Semua pukoi 12
Kalo ada drive, taruk pukul 3
Kalo ada gain, pukul 9 - 12
Reverb, tengok lagu... kut main Pink Floyd bantai 3 - 6 terus Twisted Evil
Aku suka amp yang tak banyak tombol pasal aku tak reti sangat nak beza bunyi.
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IZZI
PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Zul.. aku ni pemalu orang nya.. so susah sikit la nak jumpa.. hahha

nak lepak2 no hal punya, nak jam sekali pun ok tp tunggu aku turun KL la. Tapi aku tak reti nak main lagu mcm ko main tu.. metalasia dream tetek semua tu.. lagu2 biasa yg less technical bleh ler..
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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LESTEBIAT wrote:
pada deadzid rasa nyer mcm pernah selisih masa BOTB kat tasik idaman tak silap.

oh tidakkk!! jgn ko sebut2 lagi pasal Tasik Idaman! itu satu pengalaman duka.. Crying or Very sad mcm hampagas! menyesal aku gi masuk final, kalau aku tau aku, takkan datang pon utk final...

adakah anda pasti makhluk ni yg anda jumpa masa BOTB Tasik Idaman itu hari? Laughing


by the way, band ko nama FENOMENA ke? setau aku band ni takde masa Tasik Idaman.. kat South City Plaza ada la, band yg main lagu sebijik mcm Search (especially vocals, memang boleh tarik mcm Amy - respect!)
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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oh yea lupa lak.. utk amp setting, biasanya aku set semua pukul 12, then adjust skit2 utk dpt tone heavy yg more bassy, tapi tak muddy.. yg penting jgn bingit (kang jd sound black mentel lak)
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Allo encik zul, sorry tak reply, waaa bercuti daaa.

Cam biasa la mulakan kan dari kol 12.
utk BASS,TREBLE and MIDDLE. this paling penting.
PRESENCE,DRIVE or gain biar 0 dulu.

then depend on aper jenis lagu nak main. Tapi pekara paling penting adalah kita punya clean channel, tu kene setkan dulu. then baru gi kat dirty channel.

BASS,TREBLE and MIDDLE
Mana nak lebih mana nak kurang, rasanya tu teori paling penting. Contoh macam tone metelica, ada orang set BASS 3am, TREBLE 3am and MIDDLE 12am. or ader juga setkan BASS 12,TREBLE 12 and MIDDLE 9am. Tapi yang penting adalah middle kene kurang.
- walo cammanapun jangan lah cut semua sampai 0 contohnya tak nak mid letak kosong trus sebab eq treble mid and bass kat amp bukan paramatic punya eq yang hanya akan cut frequency tertentu.
- utk gain rasanya sememang nya sesedap rasa ikut lagu. Tapi kita cuba buat jadi 3 ketegory. drive sikit, serhana and banyak. Drive skit biasa area dari 0 sampai 9am, and sederhana biasa dalam separuh or 12 am and high dalam kol 3 sampai abis. Sebenarnya kita kene tau aper tone nak kene main. kalo just funky punya ryhtm maybe kita guna sikit punya drive. blues mungkin serdahana. solo boost or metal mungkin high drive.
- paling penting sekali setting kene seimbang jangan ader yang terlau banyak and terlalu kurang dalan combinasi BASS,TREBLE and MIDDLE.

PRESENCE- ultra high frequency. biasa ader kat amp fender or VOX.
- kengkadang rasanya tak perlu sangat. pada aku tahap kol 12 am utk knob ne pun dah boleh nyebab bingit (depend on amp). terlalu banyak PRESENCE boleh nyebab bunyi bedesing yang tengelam dengan cymbal drum hingga tak dengar bunyi aper... biasa aku akan guna PRESENCE pada setting yang treble kurang dari mid and bass. TREBLE n PRESENCE yang berlebihan akan nyebab bunyi jadi tajam tapi tak der body. Kalo main dalam band kita punyi macam kuat tapi kebelakang sangat dari bunyi lain sebab PRESENCE boleh nyebab middle tengelam.

mine.
- biasa BASS,TREBLE aku set pada amount yang sama. cuma aku hanya adjust kurang atau tambah middle ikut jenis lagu samada nak riff or solo.
- dan sebenarnya aku pun lost juga pasal amp setting bila berjumpo amp yang canggih canggih. maklumlah aku hanya layak guna amp cap ayam. hahahhahaha.

bagi aku tone dan amp setting adalah dua pekara berbeza. Tone is more to ur play and amplifier lebih kepada freguency array. Marshall, VOX, fender and bla bla memasing ader bunyi signature tersendiri. Tapi semua pun boleh utk banyak jenis genre music. u can play blues dengan semua amp diatas tapi sure bunyinya berbeza.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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ultraman_cosmo wrote:

Contoh macam tone metelica, ada orang set BASS 3am, TREBLE 3am and MIDDLE 12am.


aku punya setting lebih kurang la tapi aku punya 3pm.. heheh...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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memain yer,

ko guna timezone mana ne wan GTM +800 ker guna india punya or GTM +430 kabul ... hehehhehe.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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ada instructional video on metallica's general rule EQ setting:

bass - max

mid - zero

treble - max

hehehe...

tapi sebenarnya memang tak dapat pun - tgk gitar sama effects sama amp ler...amp peavey kecik aku sound cam cibai je kalu camni...
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