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| Otaizam |
 Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 12:45 pm Post subject: Pickup guitar macam microphone |
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Dear Mr Guitar Doc, (he heh eh e)
Tak tau macam mana nak explain, but this insident baaru aku perasan semalam. Bila on Distort, aku saje je gatal cakap directly to the guitar pickup, dia boleh tangkap apa yang kita cakap pulak, leh kuar suara kat aku punya amp.
Just nak tau, is it normal? atau actually something wrong. Sebab ingatkan it just can pick up bunyik guitar je, bukan suara orang....
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| gapster |
| Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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i am having this same problem on my indonesian made guitar . how much did you bought your guitar?
i send it to a technician he said it is because of the cheap o pickups .change it to a korean stock it will be better..cheers
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Dufresne |
| Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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Actually its not a problem specific to a cheap pickup. What is going on is that the pickup just 'picks-up' all sounds arnd the pickup, which theorically can happen to all pickups. Even high-end pickups can produce the same problem. One pickup that i know that can do this is the DiMarzio Evo, which is understandable, cuz its such a high output pickup. It was said that while Steve Vai was rehearsing in a studio, he screamed into his guitar, & a distored-screamed sound came out from his amp...
I dont know if other high gain/output pickup can do this, maybe u guys can try it, hehe...
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| Otaizam |
| Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:41 am Post subject: |
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thanks guys
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| Ridzi |
| Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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| this is normal lah... your strings vibrate to your voice...and picked up by the pickup... more noticeable if you are using a high gain setting. pretty the same way a microphone diaphragm works... |
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| Otaizam |
| Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Ridzi wrote: | | this is normal lah... your strings vibrate to your voice...and picked up by the pickup... more noticeable if you are using a high gain setting. pretty the same way a microphone diaphragm works... |
ridzi, thanks.... thats really sooth my worried hearted |
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| okta |
| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:41 am Post subject: |
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i think i saw some incubus home video...brandon boyd sang into one of the guitar pickups for a song...
i might be fooled tho... |
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| Otaizam |
| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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serious meh? so it gives a lil advantage......
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| browndog2woof |
| Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 11:59 am Post subject: pickup microphonic vs pickup radio |
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fretted bros,
you've heard about microphonics pickups, wanna know why?
1) low output blast with high gain
2) high output blast with high gain
3) ceramic pickups mostly have this problem , alnico pun ada
4) mostly on cheap demagnetized pickups (ceramic mostly) aku ada jumpa jap copy pickups sounds better than standard fender now..ada dua jenis2-
a) merah fishpaper
2) black fish paper
mosly founded in squire jv or early japanese..ada yg same replica but mostly ada variance sikit in size. cuma alnico dia a bit smaller dan size di about 1 to 2mm smaller in size. bila ko masuk cover pickups usa, dia tak ngam.
how to overcome this?
1) try putting wax (jangan la ko bakar lak pickup tu sekali dengan lilin!) use blowdryer, jangan jadi kfc dah. especially kat bobbin tu, jaga2 la bro
ini akan kurangkan squealing atau microphonic
2) enamel coating, ini ke pandai sikit la, silap2 nanti jahanam. kastam shop pickups ada pakai ini enamel coating
3) remagnetized the pickup, ini a bit complicated, so far aku tau kat usa adala doc nak buat kerja2 ini, tuned to specs lagi...aku, this part memang langsung kaput! janganlak korang nak cuba cabut magnet dan pasang sendiri balik, 99% tak bunyik! nak cuba bole...ha ha ha!
4) beli pickup baru la....habih cito, janganlak cap tengkorak, then you'll start all over again..
aku pernah dapat lespaul copy pickup boleh tangkap radio station....ha ha ha ah! aku pun kayu dulu, pergi dispose lak, kalau sekarang aku simpan pun bagus, hmmmmm! freak habis! ha ha ha!
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| sorcerer |
| Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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Aku ada tengok Paul Gilbert solo dengan menyanyi kat pickup gitar dia dalam Lesson VCD Terriffying Guitar Trip. bunyi macam bending note, macam guna whammy pedal..... Cool....
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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sebenarnya pickup tu untuk memudahkan guitarist menjadi backup singer tanpa perlu mic tambahan.. ia lebih menjimatkan..
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| browndog2woof |
| Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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| IZZI wrote: | | sebenarnya pickup tu untuk memudahkan guitarist menjadi backup singer tanpa perlu mic tambahan.. ia lebih menjimatkan.. |
hmmm,
piano tok aku scallop, pakai pikap hs3, moog taurus dan amp marshall. mike dia pakai perigi puteri hang lipo dimana reverb dia wet dan peh! analog lagi...
aku ada lipstick pickup vintage, tok aku punye, mau? ha ha ha ha!
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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lipstick pickup? aku ada perasan SRV pakai itu pickup kat guitar putih dia.. mmg cun habis.. tapi tak tau la sama ke tak dgn lipstik tok ko tu..
bro, ko mau chrome single coil pickup cover? sini ada jual..
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| munkee_m |
| Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:54 am Post subject: |
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HI!!!! here's a simple guide line for pickup potting- just an add on to BrownDog 
Go to Ace hardware shop- buy this wax called Bee's Wax, ace is the only place selling it here 1 piece will do . and 4 little candle they use for aroma theraphy ones. you can find them in RM 5 shop. The big long type dont work that well as they contain ALOT of silicones !!! put all the mixture in a tin can, just enough to fit a pickup , double boil the tin can- means boil the can in a pot of water, this is to ensure the tempetarue dont exceed 100 degrees. and the temperature is constant While waiting, CAREFULLY remove the protective felt or tape wrapping the bobbin. if youre using a nickel cover , try remove the cover by melting the solder point holidng the cover to the baseplate. when both the wax mix up, CELUP that microphonic SOB inside like Lipton tea bags.leave it inside for a while. then take out, untill the whole thing is like a blog of wax . let it cool and harden, take some lighter fluid - naptha - or zippo fluid and a blade to scrap off the goo and polish it up .
that'll kill the microphone problem..like it or not... it sure is anoying over high gain.... it doesnt feedback naturally, it SQUELS!!!!! And it sure aint a Sm58 to start off with.... |
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