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| ultraman_cosmo |
 Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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Cut n paste,
sangat berguna... so between song masa gig korang boleh tuning guitar tanpa perlu tunduk tekan button tuner.
Once korang turunkan volume sampai abis guna expession pedal, bila sampai abis tekan sampai volume zero, tuner akan appear on screen.
- aper lagi tune ler guitar before start next song... hehhehehe
- memang boleh set ctl or expession switch utk jump tuning, tapi kita dah rugi satu function. So boleh set ctl just for tone toggle and expession switch utk on wah wah.
Tune with EXP Pedal
How you can tune when you turn your volume down on your EXP Pedal
Are you using your EXP Pedal as a volume/patch control on any of your patches? Why not allow yourself to tune when you swell down to a ZERO volume? If you would like to add this feature, here's how...
If you are using your EXP pedal as a volume/Patch control, you can now alter your settings to automatically turn your tuner on when you swell to a zero volume While on your patch perform the following: Press PEDAL ASSIGN Press PARAMETER >> until display reads ASSIGN 1 OFF P00: USER Press PEDAL ASSIGN to turn ASSIGN 1 to ON Scroll the Patch/Value Wheel until P00: User reads P01: PATCH LEVEL Press PARAMETER >> to ASSIGN 1 TARGET Scroll Patch/Value Wheel to read TUNER On/Off Press PARAMETER >> to TARGET MIN Scroll to value ON Press PARAMETER >> to TARGET MAX Scroll to value OFF Press PARAMETER >> to SOURCE Scroll to value of EXP Pedal Press PARAMETER >> to MODE Scroll to value NORMAL Press PARAMETER >> Act. Range LO: Scroll to value 0 Press PARAMETER >> Act Range HI: Scroll to value 127 This should now turn on the BYPASS/TUNER when the EXP Pedal is now fully lifted up. This feature will not allow you to directly access your tuner on-stage when you alter you stage volume to zero.
Aku akan try copy and paste tip tip GT-8 dari masa ker masa.
And other GT user should do so... cheer.
* accually utk keadah ne biler kita active wah. akan ader problem wah tak bunyi bila tekan wah abis kerana kita dah assign expression pedal Zero to tuning.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 12:14 am Post subject: |
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Idea yang bernas dari ultraman_cosmo
I will do that if I found a great tips for GT-8
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| ultraman_cosmo |
| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:50 am Post subject: |
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Trick:
Fading from Channel A to Channel B
If you want to use the EXP pedal to fade from channel A to channel B you can do it by using two ASSIGN/VARIABLE:
- Assign1 : Target = ChannelA/Level, Min=0, Max=70, Source = EXP PEDAL, Mode = Normal, Act Range = 0-127.
- Assign2 : Target = ChannelB/Level, Min=70, Max=0, Source = EXP PEDAL, Mode = Normal, Act Range = 0-127.
And here it is ! Moving the EXP pedal will fade from channel A to channel B!
Now let's say you are lazy and you whant the 8 to automatically fade from chanel A to chanel B when pressing the CTL pedal. Easy :
- Assign1 : Target = ChannelA/Level, Min=0, Max=70, Source = INTERNAL PEDAL, Mode = Normal, Act Range = 0-127, Trigger = CTL PEDAL, time=75, curve = slow rise.
- Assign2 : Target = ChannelB/Level, Min=70, Max=0, Source = INTERNAL PEDAL, Mode = Normal, Act Range = 0-127, Trigger = CTL PEDAL, time=75, curve = fast rise.
And you're done !
Here is the magic of the GT-8 !!
* add correction
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| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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ape yang boleh aku katakan
satu lagi tips yang menarik tentang GT-8 dari ultraman_cosmo |
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| Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:14 am Post subject: |
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Kesengsaraan aku mencari cable EXT LOOP untuk GT-8 telah berakhir
Segala jawapan berada di Midi Specialist
Neutrik Angled TS to TS biasa
Kalau tak mau belden cable warna kelabu
Boleh salut dengan cover getah warna hitam
Tapi cover getah tu nipis je
Setakat nak ubah warna je boleh la
Nak berubah bentuk, mungkin tidak
Kalau aku nak buat nanti (bila duit dah cukup da) mesti nak buat cable tu hitam |
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| ultraman_cosmo |
| Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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EXT LOOP??? ker EFFECT LOOP bang...?
or EXT CTL or EXT expression pedal...?
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| Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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Effect loop aku pakai cable effect biasa jer...
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| Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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EXT LOOP = External Loop
Kat belakang GT-8 tulis EXT LOOP
Aku pun taip EXT LOOP 
Kena tempah custom cable sebab bilik ni kecik
Nak cuba save ruang sikit
Wayar pun dah banyak, pening lo..
Sila betulkan aku kalau aku salah |
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| Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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Aha, effect loop = EXT LOOP dalam boss manual.
Aku ler sebenarnya terkonfuse sebab effect loop dah tentu external...
foyooo siap pakai custom cable... aku gi potong cable guitar biasa n wiring balik jack kasih cukup cukup panjang...
- utk keadah 4 cable method.
- banyak complan pasal signal yang tak consisten... terputus putus...
- so kebanyakan user syorkan cable yang high quality.
- dan jangan terlalu panjang sampai keliling studio...
Rasanya, aku teringin nak tanya favorite patches korang.
Kebanyakan patches kat GT-8 adalah sedarhana bunyi dia. Tapi it is the best starting point utk tweak tone kita endak.
And preamp GT cenderung kepada vintage tone berbanding preamp modul lain. Sebab kebanyakan amp legend yang lama lama... banyak eq
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| Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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| ultraman_cosmo wrote: |
foyooo siap pakai custom cable... aku gi potong cable guitar biasa n wiring balik jack kasih cukup cukup panjang...
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Aku cable lebih pun tak de 
Kalau ade, sure dah buat seperti mane kau buat
Yang penting angled TS untuk save ruang sebelah GT-8 tu
| ultraman_cosmo wrote: |
Rasanya, aku teringin nak tanya favorite patches korang.
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Buat masa sekarang ni aku suka bunyi Wah Fuzz kat dalam GT-8 ni |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:54 am Post subject: |
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Connector yang sesuai untuk GT-8 (Digital Out)
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Brand : Canare
Model : RCAP-C Series
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Cable yang sesuai
[url=http://www.canare.com/index.cfm?objectid=0D01B44F-3048-7098-AF1C088D26068A8A]
Brand : Canare
Model : LV-61S
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Pasal cable pulak, tak kira guna cable ape pun
Janji coaxial 75 Ohm
Dan pastikan connector itu sendiri pun boleh handle 75 Ohm
Susah jugak jadi orang yang selalu ikut manual
Kalau tak ikut spec dia rasa macam susah hati je
Nasib baik semua stuff kat atas tu ade kat Malaysia
Sila betulkan kalau ada salah atau ada pandangan lain |
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| ultraman_cosmo |
| Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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Mana boleh dapat geng...?
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| Boleh didapati kat midi specialist |
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| Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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volume LEVEL
- how to set ur level for every efect or the whole patches.
- how to ballance patches within patches.
- which FX level should be max or min.
- kurangkan level pada tahap min akan dapat kurangkan noise.
- terlalu kurang level kan menyebabkan sustain pendek and gain kureng.
Sebenarnya utk setiap effect ader level nyebabkan kita pening kepala mana satu nak adjust.
A very useful tool in GT system. this level meter can show u the output level for every stage in ur effect chain. start form INPUT[the output from the guitar], od, fx and last to OUTPUT[final output from the GT]. The most important is the OUTPUT level. we never let a very high peak output plug direct to our mixer or PA. u can adjust the preamp volume or the current patch volume to get a good output setting. this also help u to control ur patch volume so for each patch u can have the output nearly the same level. that is good to know in which stage of the effect chain that boost the output level to the max. By adjusting the output level of the effected stage, u can minimize the noise.
What is the best setting for the out level?
Check out any Gt factory patches preset. It is an example for a good output level setting. Never let the peak output level to the max indicator.
PETUA asas
1. patch level sentiasa biarkan 100.
- biarlah turunkan or naikan level lain sperti preamp or od but bukan patch level
2. jangan guna EQ utk naikan level
- gunakan eq utk colorkan ur tone [high, middle,low] but never boost the level.
3. jika gumakan preamp, anggaplah level preamp level sebagai master.
- maksudnya kalo ader terlebih or terkurang try adjust level preamp.
- kalo guna both mic and direct level. set both pada nilai yang kurang dari seratus seperti 50/50. 40/60 and sebagainya.
4. turunkan level pada tone modyfied resonance bila letak depan preamp pada 40 sekurang kurangnya sebab default 50 selalu myebabkan clipping pada mixer.
5. output level and digital out level kuar jadi GT sepatutnya dalam 70 ker 80 kat meter output.
Guna lah level meter.
- press system sampai jumpa ini meter... [press system 3 kali]
- guna patches value dail utk lihat meter level bagi setiap stage effect.
- meter level adalah guna utk dilihat dan buat perbandingan antara level dan tak boleh adjust level kat sini. Display only.
- struming ur guitar n pastikan peak level pada 70% or 80% dari meter ne... try struming kuat skit encik...
- if level output terlalu tinggi, try adjust level level yang tinggi pada setiap effect dari input sampat last output.
- kalo yang lain ok just output level jer tinggi, try turunkan preamp level dulu.
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Adjust level kat preamp.
- ada 3 level seperti aku mention sebelom ne.
- mic level, direct level and preamp level.
- biasanya for defoult aku set semuanya kepada 50.
- utk mic level dan direct level, sure boleh guna keduanya or salah satu.
- utk preamp level biasa adalah tempat utama utk aku adjust output jika terlalu tinggi or rendah.
- tetapi jangan terlalu rendah dari 20 kerana bagi preamp yang ada dynamic, gain ; ia akan nyebab dynamic and gain kurang berkesan kerana level terlalu rendah.
- so dalam case ne jika volume level utk preamp dah sampai 20, try adjust other level seperti mic level, direct level or dari effect lain.
If the preamp/speaker clips, it might also help to take a look at the stomps to the left hand side of it, in our case the EQ. METER:EQ indicates that it has a fairly high level, it is "burbing". So you could alternatively lower the level of the preamp/speaker a little less but additionally reduce the outcome of the EQ section a bit: lower the EQ's Level slightly.
Adjust level kat OD/DS.
- effect level and direct level
- biasa aku guna defalut setting.
- kecuali guna boost biasa aku set effect level kepada 100 utk amount drive yang kurang.
- utk amount drive yang maksimum biasanya aku set effect level 50.
- utk direct level biasanya 0
- boleh camporkan effect level and direct level both 50 supaya distortion tu full body ada bunyi...
- biasa orang mix dirty and clean supaya bunyi lagi full but utk GT ne adalah satu pekara yang mudah tak yah ler nak record 2 kali.
- kengkadang aku letak effect level pada 100 sebab aku nak tone yang solid sebelom masuk preamp.
- tinggikan level effect pada 100 bila pakai booster adalah labih baik tetapi kene turunkan level preamp skit.
- cuba minimumkan level supaya kurang bunyi hissing.
ader lagi,,, tapi nanti sambung daaaa...
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| Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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EFFECT chain
- Masa memula belajar pakai effect stombox dulu ne lah pekara paling aku pening sekali.
- tapi dengan GT rasanya banyak yang aku lebih faham which one come first or next or last.
- sebenarnya biasa effect chain dalam GT yang default tu adalah basic dalam pekara mana dulu mana kemudian ne.
default.
cs>wah>fx1>od/dis>preamp>EQ>NS>fx2>CH>delay>reverb
SUMMARY
- lebih kurang cam ne lah kesimpulan dia.
- aku try pecahkan kepada beberapa kumpulan
- banyak persamaan dengan single stombox tapi ada juga sedikit perbezaan.
boleh aku simpulkan dalam kumpulan sebegini
guitar > kumpulan1 >..........ikut urutan....... > kumpulan 15 > power amp.
1. wave modify effect
- bisanya semua effect yang berkaitan dengan wave modification
- bunyi synth
2. tone craft effect
- segala jadah effect yang tukar tone body guitar...
- effect2 berkaitan prehal pickup, akustic, fat body, thin body, semi hollow
3. compressor limiter effect
- sama jer masih juga preihal tone craff tapi cpmpressor and limiter well know
- fx advance compressor and limiter adalah tergolong dalam kumpulan ne.
4. wah filter
- wah adalah pekara yang berkaitan dengan Q dalam eq.
- walo cam mana pun wah boleh digerakan pre [sbelom od n preamp] or pos selepas [preamp]
- pre an pos ne akan diterangkan dlm tajuk breaking the rules.
5. overdrive/dis
- overdrive, distortion, boosting, eq
- overdrive/dis dan preamp semacam satu kumpulan tapi od/dis lebih kurang sebagai membantu preamp do the tone coloring.
- biasa kalo guna OD/dis aku akan set effect level 100 supaya full signal akan masuk preamp section supaya kita tak kehilangan warm, boost fell and susutain. jangan risau level tak pengaruhi kekuatan level volume sebab kat preamp ada volume level dia sendiri.
6. preamp
- preamp adalah tone color dengan algorithm signature diorang tersendiri.
- ader distortion or drive kepada range frequency tertentu.
- ada eq diorang tersendiri.
- walo cam mana pun utk FX tonemodyfied yang seharusnya berada pada kumpulan 2 boleh berada selapas preamp kalo kita set resonance. Asalnya resonance guitar tapi kita guna utk resonance speaker simulation.
- aku biasa ingat preamp sebagai titik tengah dalam effect chain.
- dari sini senang nak beza mana perlu berada sebelom dan selapas preamp ne.
7. eq
- lepas preamp kita ada pos eq utk menyedapkan lagi eq supaya lebih sesuai utk solo or ryhtm or riff sebagainya.
- sebenarnya eq boleh berada dimana mana depend on kegunaan.
- boleh utk eq signal dari preamp tapi biasanya aku akan set flat value utk bass, middle n treble kat preamp.
8. noise supression
- biasa berada kat sini lepas eq tapi boleh berada selepas od ,compressor or guitar signal jika the main noise came from.
9. volume
- volume pedal biasa letak kat sini.
- boleh berada paling hujung selapas reverb or delay.
- atau berada paling depan.
10. harmonis
- sebenarnya salah satu modul effect
- tapi biasanya aku letak paling depan berbanding modul yang lain.
- kalo selepas karang tone akan bercelaru jadi tak sedap.
- signal dah delay or reverb lepas tu baru nak harmonis kan nyebab bunyi hancur.
- so harmonis dulu then chorus delay or reverb.
11. module effect
- kalo kat stompbox biasa chorus effect pun tergolong dalam kumpulan ne.
- aku lebih suka chorus dulu lepas tu baru delay.
12. delay
- delay dalam GT ada berbagai jenis.
- double delay yang bagi bunyi preamp berganda macam 2 preamp seharusnya best berada bebetul lepas preamp.
- very short delay biasa berada sebelom chorus
- very long delay baik berada sebelom reverb
13. chorus
- aku tak berapa stuju kedudukan selepas reverb and sebelom delay for just mono chorus.
- kalo kita guna stereo panning chorus mungkin kedudukan antara delay dan reverb ne tepat
14. paning
- segala benda chorus, delay, mudul yang ada berkaitan dengan panning patut berada dalam kumpulan ne.
- if kita set panning chorus sepatutnya berada paling ujung before reverb
15. reverb
- bagi aku tak der effect lain paling ujung.
- kita craft wave, craft tone, dis, eq , modul.... and bla bla last sekali baru kita reverbkan...
- sebab reverb akan effect keseluruhan signal.
- volume pedal boleh letak lepas reverb juga.
Cotoh effect chain dalam GT8
1-Anti-Feedback
1-Auto-Riff
1-Feedbacker
1-Slow Gear
1-Guitar Synth
2--Acoustic Guitar Simulator
2--Pickup Simulator
3---Compressor
3---Limiter
4----Auto-Wah
4----Pedal-Wah
4----Humanizer
5-----Overdrive/Distortion
6------Preamp
7-------Equaliser
8--------Noise Supressor
9---------Foot volume
10----------Harmonist
11-----------Short Delay
11-----------Vibrato
11-----------2x2 Chorus
11-----------Flanger
11-----------Phaser
11-----------Ring Modulator
12------------Delay
13-------------Chorus
14--------------Slicer
14--------------Tremolo/Pan
15---------------Reverb
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Breaking the rules. [petang karang gua sambung]
- bukan jenayah tapi let be creatif.
- prehal pre and pos.
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kalo salah harap perbetulkan seyyy.
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