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rg_x2n
PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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yeah what ever buddy, with this kind of post, clearly shows how arrogant you are:

SunOfFrostLight wrote:
SPAMMERS... Don't you have better ideas to post?


even the 'otai' i-band'ers pun xder mcm nie. oh well, kalo bender nie berpanjangan mr ridzi akan tutup thread nie, so... baik berenti. elok2 nak bincang pasal jazz, tertiber jadi perang, kan xnoybis suruh berenti, cut it out now... oops, aku p layan lagi wat per, kekeeke.


chill Smile
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gapster
PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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SunOfFrostLight wrote:
Oh yeah as for jazz music, the easy way to improvise your solos is by knowing your broken chords or arpeggios, and you can get better melodies by improvising from there instead of following scales.


Bossa/Swing you mean? jazz is too generalize.some of it have just a single chord for a few minutes

imo the easiest way to improvise jazz solo is copy paste...take george's benson's lick ..find out what chord is used during the lick and nail it

anyway..why ppl hate u lar?the mastering thread izzit ? lolz..i like the way you post ..all you need is a little humor inside Very Happy
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rg_x2n
PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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gapster wrote:

Bossa/Swing you mean? jazz is too generalize.some of it have just a single chord for a few minutes

imo the easiest way to improvise jazz solo is copy paste...take george's benson's lick ..find out what chord is used during the lick and nail it

anyway..why ppl hate u lar?the mastering thread izzit ? lolz..i like the way you post ..all you need is a little humor inside Very Happy


hehehe, no lah, nobody hate him. yup, he is good, but terlalu straight, no offence buddy, x silap aku mamat SunOfFrostLight ni in person penuh dgn humour...

btw, back to the topic, ader kesamaan ker jazz dgn blues eh? all i can see is blues nie lagi simple... i'm a jazz noOb...
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stratopedia
PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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rg_x2n wrote:


hehehe, no lah, nobody hate him. yup, he is good, but terlalu straight, no offence buddy, x silap aku mamat SunOfFrostLight ni in person penuh dgn humour...

btw, back to the topic, ader kesamaan ker jazz dgn blues eh? all i can see is blues nie lagi simple... i'm a jazz noOb...


Setahu aku, jazz evolved from the Blooz. Here's a video of Joe Pass fusing them both:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hdZqjQqFzkU&search=joe%20pass

Macho siut! Shocked
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rg_x2n
PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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huhuhu, downloading*

thanks mate Smile
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cartman, eric
PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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rg_x2n wrote:
huhuhu, downloading*

thanks mate Smile

you tube bley download ka...???
kasi tau mcm ner...
stau aku Google Videos je lah yg bley download...





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okta
PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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astrov wrote:
okta wrote:
tibai lagi...sure bole punye...

kurt cobain main jazz kan?Smile


wui,

okta oghang tepeng...
hah, sekampung le ni....


Tepeng JAZZ!!!

oopps...
i mean ROCKS!

aku nampak die boh * kat situ ...mungkin die maksud lain kot...maybe not.
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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mak aih,
garang-garang rupanya orang kat sini...
lawak2 skali skala tabley ka? tabley na?

ni ha ada stuff Bireli Lagrene (sp?) and friends... cover lagu Django Reinhardt yang jari kudung tuh, Les Yeux Noirs (lagi ganas dari Iommi beb), tunggu time sorang2 improv on solo, malmsteen diorang jentik tepi je lah kot *puts on flame-proof jacket*... cakap banyak tak guna... ni link dia

http://youtube.com/watch?v=gZey9fRiH4w&search=les%20yeux%20noirs
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rg_x2n
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cartman, eric wrote:
rg_x2n wrote:
huhuhu, downloading*

thanks mate Smile

you tube bley download ka...???
kasi tau mcm ner...
stau aku Google Videos je lah yg bley download...





Cool


hehehe, xleh download, tapi nak tgk kene stremingkan, kire download gak lah kot, kekeke.... sorry2 typing error Razz
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SunOfFrostLight
PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Oh yeah... Sorry you guys for me being too straight forward... I'm quite straight forward when people criticize me sometimes...

Yeah you can copy other people's licks, but til when? Someday you gotta make up your own licks, your own trademark (Listening to Eric Johnson's Trademark from the album Ah Via Musicom) haha...

Improvising using broken chords (arpeggios) is another easy way to improvise, and sometimes when you're getting a melody from nowhere in your mind, just apply it. Another way, listen to the singing melody, and brainstorm your way into improvising using the singing melody. That's usually how I improvise on jazz. But still, until now jazz is the hardest music I've ever learned other than classical music.

Jazz doesn't really evolve itself from the blues, it is the blues who evolved itself from jazz. Jazz evolve more from classical. Take this term; classical musicians learn the rules of music theory and never break them, and jazz breaks every classical rules of music theory whenever they need to. That's what my lecturer taught me though... That's why people in ICOM had to go through all those lame classical music sometimes, although the college is a jazz college.

About chord progressions, it is all depending on the key (scale) of the music. Like Jerome Kern's All The Things You Are, the key of the song is an Ab Major, so the chord Ab Major would be considered as a I chord, coz Ab is the first note of the scale. Conclusion: Chord progressions like I II V and etc. follows the degree of the scale.

Why don't you guys try this out: find out what chords are in Maroon 5's Sunday Morning. The key is a C Major and the chord progressions are II-V-I.

Good luck! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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I like to think of 'jazz' and 'blues' as subgenres of African American music.
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lol... Very Happy Anyways most of these African Americans are the ones who created and popularized contemporary musics such as Jazz, Blues, Reggae, Ska, House Music etc...
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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SunOfFrostLight wrote:
Oh yeah... Sorry you guys for me being too straight forward... I'm quite straight forward when people criticize me sometimes...



yeah, aku pun plik, tetiber ko masuk sini jagi garang semacam, padahal masa gig kreator tu kemain la skaki, gelak beso lagik, hehehehe! mamat nie bila time gelak mmg tahap max, Laughing

yeah, im sorry too if i've been a lil bit harsh on you.

btw, your tips betul2 detail, sampaikan aku pun dah x paham, xper2, aku bacer btul2 balik, Very Happy

thanks 4 the tips!
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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SunOfFrostLight wrote:

Yeah you can copy other people's licks, but til when? Someday you gotta make up your own licks, your own trademark (Listening to Eric Johnson's Trademark from the album Ah Via Musicom) haha...


yeah.i am learning appregios to improv on jazz too.but remember..we talked about the easiest eh ? appregio improv on jazz isn't easy man..it can be really complicated like using a Eb7majdimiasjanfklaf appregio when your root chord is G7 or something


SunOfFrostLight wrote:

Why don't you guys try this out: find out what chords are in Maroon 5's Sunday Morning. The key is a C Major and the chord progressions are II-V-I.


Dm7-G13-Cmaj9? i think we don't need those I II III sh*t to figure out this eh Cool
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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i got whatever things you write slightlyyy up until this point...
SunOfFrostLight wrote:

About chord progressions, it is all depending on the key (scale) of the music. Like Jerome Kern's All The Things You Are, the key of the song is an Ab Major, so the chord Ab Major would be considered as a I chord, coz Ab is the first note of the scale. Conclusion: Chord progressions like I II V and etc. follows the degree of the scale.

Why don't you guys try this out: find out what chords are in Maroon 5's Sunday Morning. The key is a C Major and the chord progressions are II-V-I.

Good luck! Very Happy

please speak in english... Laughing
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