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| gapster |
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| cartman, eric wrote: | my point is this: you cant group a bunch of guitarist togather, then pick out one of them as the greatest...it's bullcrap
thats the point.... 
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this is very true actually.usually in a guitar forum..a noob will point out "randy rhoads is the best guitarist!" wtv...then a veteran will say exactly what you said ....
lets make life a little fun shall we 
the truth is ...the ONLY few things about guitar we can't judge is phrasing,
style,selection of notes...
the rest..we can judge..
i believe guthrie isn't the fastest guitarist out there
but i do believe he stands a chance to have one of the best technical guitarist ,the only person that comes close to him IMO is shawn lane..
as for theory knowledge...well this i duno..
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| gapster |
| Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 11:21 am Post subject: |
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eh eh eh!!!
why the quote isn't working??
i think my HTML code is correct right!
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| khairold |
| Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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can i be the unpopular guy here? hehe
i totally agree that Guthrie Govan is a superb guitarist
i've seen his video lesson and i must say his approach towards soloing is very fresh and exciting
but there's this one time when i bought a Guitar Technique magazine (cant remember which issue)
one of the reason i bought it is because there's a "Solo ini the style of Jimi Hendrix by Guthrie Govan" section
i was really disapointed as it was not "Jimi Hendrix" i was hearing in the CD
its true that every guitarist have their own style
but if it's a "Solo ini the style of Guthrie Govan" i probably woundn't have bought it in the first place
i'm more impressed by Neville Martin from the Guitarist magazine
in terms of immitating blues guitarist's phrasing & feel, i think he can nail it most of the time
anyway this is coming from a guy who can't even play a simple scale pattern cleanly |
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| MiN |
| Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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| fReqZz wrote: | versatile heh?
i dont know much but gutrie govan... but i'll go with paul gilbert *as always*..
he can go fast, he shred, he got balls, he can play the blues, he can go metal..
from RacerX to MrBig.. he got almost anything..
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well.....as for Paul Gilbert i am also a big fan of his. thats why i use PGM300.
but honestly speaking, Guthrie Govan does more than Gilbert. You name all the techniques that any player can play on the guitar and Guthrie can play it too....
have not seen gilbert slap or do 8 fingger tapping on the guitar yet. |
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| MiN |
| Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| cartman, eric wrote: | | okta wrote: | | i think that's y he said Guthrie Govan is not the greatest guitar player...since there is none.. |
wow.... i really failed to see it that way...
you have a very good point...
my point is this: you cant group a bunch of guitarist togather, then pick out one of them as the greatest...it's bullcrap
thats the point....
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i do agree with your comment. as a guitarist i often think like that. people will say that you cant compare guitar players which i agree. but when it comes to Guthrie Govan......this values that i hold go down the drain......
he is that good sampai aku tak tau aper nak pikir. |
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| MiN |
| Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Bode wrote: | Impossible to know Guthrie from just a few tunes, since his mastery covers a very wide area...from jazz, blues, metal, rock, prog rock and the list goes on...the best is to find as many clips of his playing as possible to discover his true versatility.
imho, his playing is less metal now compared to the days when I used to see him play live...and that's his choice of course(a musician always goes through changes), but I kinda missed his crazy aggressive vibrato that he used to do those days |
thats true bro Bode,
sesape yg tak pernah tgk Guthrie Govan main depan mata takkan mengerti apa yg kita pernah tgk kan bro....... |
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| MiN |
| Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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| khairold wrote: | can i be the unpopular guy here? hehe
i totally agree that Guthrie Govan is a superb guitarist
i've seen his video lesson and i must say his approach towards soloing is very fresh and exciting
but there's this one time when i bought a Guitar Technique magazine (cant remember which issue)
one of the reason i bought it is because there's a "Solo ini the style of Jimi Hendrix by Guthrie Govan" section
i was really disapointed as it was not "Jimi Hendrix" i was hearing in the CD
its true that every guitarist have their own style
but if it's a "Solo ini the style of Guthrie Govan" i probably woundn't have bought it in the first place
i'm more impressed by Neville Martin from the Guitarist magazine
in terms of immitating blues guitarist's phrasing & feel, i think he can nail it most of the time
anyway this is coming from a guy who can't even play a simple scale pattern cleanly |
i remember in a Guitarist magazine Neville Martin once quoted as saying that if there is a better guitarist than Guthrie Govan out there, then he has never seen him. |
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| MiN |
| Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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i have posted this before but i will post this again.
i got this from the internet.
here are some of other great players comments on Guthrie Govan
Here are some comments from great guitar players who talked about Guthrie Govan.
here it is:-
Greg Howe
Greg saw Guthrie play here on Jan 20 and 21. Being the very high-profile player he is, the audience members were quick to jump on Greg and ask, "So, Greg, what did you think of Guthrie?" Here are some reported comments:
"Time for me to start practicing!"
"I feel like I've been beaten down!"
"Just amazing. When I was watching him - I was saying to myself - He did what? I never thought of that? What did he just do? No I don't think I can do that?.......etc......"
Scott Henderson
I was talking with Scott on Jan 23 about the week's happenings and mentioned to him that Greg Howe was over. Scott commented, "Yeah, Greg's a great player." And then, he said:
"And I like Guthrie a lot. He's a great player. Amazing chops."
Dweezil Zappa
Dweezil is already one of Guthrie's biggest fans.
"He is so articulate that it's bizarre."
"It's pretty amazing that he could change styles so comfortably."
"I don't think I've been this excited by a new player since EVH!"
Scott Jones
A monster player himself, Scott posted the following on various message boards.
"Govan is the next player to make history with the instrument....he is so off the planet, and beyond the instrument, that I've never seen anything like it."
Joel Hoekstra
Joel was around for the festivities and his gig on Jan 23 and got to meet Guthrie and catch part of the Jan 21 show.
"Guthrie is awesome. I was watching him that night (Jan 21) and I was thinking, 'Man, it'd be nice to be able to do that kind of stuff!' I wish I could do it, but I just don't have that kind of chops."
Bumblefoot
Mr. Bumblefoot is a big fan of Guthrie's (as Guthrie is a big fan of Bumblefoot) and he had this to say on a thread about Guthrie on the Petrucci Forum:
"Guthrie is my favorite."
Bumblefoot's sidekick monster kid guitarist, Ben Litchman, said:
"Guthrie is so good that it's EVIL!"
John 5 was over for the Jan 21 show and it seemed that he was specifically over to check out Guthrie. He seemed to enjoy it a lot and people could tell that he was impressed, but I don't have any quotes that I could share. That's about all I've got for now. Will add to this list as more accolades come in. It'll probably end up being a very long thread.
The latest celebrity to discover Guthrie is Matt Scannell of Vertical Horizon. He got in touch with Noel at TM about getting the DVD's after Matt heard about Guthrie from John Suhr. Here are some comments:
This is after seeing the video clips on the TM site:
"It's Matt Scannell from Vertical Horizon here. I was talking with John Suhr about Guthrie Govan and I found my way over to your site. I was looking at the clips of him playing at your store and I just wet myself. That guy is BEYOND stupidly good. I'd like to buy the DVD of the performance. How should I do this? I mean, come ON!! Amazingly inspiring guitar playing."
And the following after he got the DVDs:
"Thanks SO much for sending out these DVD's. Guthrie is just one of the most incredible talents I've seen. It's breathtaking... and the best part is I got them just in time to take them with me back out on the road. I'm in Albany tonight and I'm all fired up to get back to the hotel and get schooled by him! That bastard!!!!"
Scott Henderson was over at Suhr's and I was showing him snippets of the Jan 20 show DVD which is not being released because Guthrie just wasn't all that happy with his playing. I skipped around the DVD to the solos by Guthrie and Scott watched and listened with a good deal of interest. Those solos are posted on the Media section.
Scott really dug Guthrie's lines on Headin' Home. Scott's comments were: "I like his lines." "He's so precise." "He sure has chops." Then I skipped over to the solo on Hide and Seek. "He makes difficult things look so easy. Those licks and lines aren't easy stuff to pull off." Then I skipped over to Guthrie's ferocious shredding on Lucky Seven. "Look at him pick. I couldn't even get near to picking like that."
Scott's a real humble down-to-earth guy as well, although he tends to be somewhat more outspoken than Guthrie or Greg - Scott's comments about KennyG can attest to that! When I told Scott that Guthrie is a huge fan of his and that Guthrie really looks up to him, Scott just looked down and said, "I don't why he would..." And he was very genuine about it. He's so self-critical.
I feel real fortunate to be able to talk and work with Scott, Greg, and Guthrie on a regular basis. The most refreshing thing is that they're just real pure musicians with no egos whatsoever to speak of and who are so humble when they're all really amazing monster players.
there you go guys some comments made of Guthrie Govan which i copied from internet and posted it here. |
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| fReqZz |
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hmm.. just gotta check it out... but, name a few popular tune by him.. guide me please..  a ballad if u can.. *this month is instrumental-ballad-sentimental for me*
hahaha... 
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| rg_x2n |
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| gapster wrote: |
this is very true actually.usually in a guitar forum..a noob will point out "randy rhoads is the best guitarist!" wtv...then a veteran will say exactly what you said ....
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| MiN |
| Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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Guthrie Govan's album coming out soon. Now you guys can listen to some of his playing.
clips ni a rilex and mellow song from Guthrie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZJ3KnLagRw
this is called Wonderful slippery things |
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