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Raggy
PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 6:31 pm    Post subject: ISRC (International Standard Recording Code) Reply with quote



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I spent a few hours finding out about ISRC, here some details for those who may be interested:

For those coming out with their own CDs, you might want to read about International Standard Recording Code issues: basically this is a code which needs to be encoded into each track of a CD, so that when (if!!) your song is played on radio etc, they have a reference to allow collection of royalties.

the website for info: http://www.ifpi.org/isrc/index.html

You can register as a Registrant, even independant musicians can, then assign the codes in correct format to your tracks (at the mastering stage) so that when your CDs get printed the ISRC codes are in every song.

To register, in Malaysia, contact :Recording Industry Association of Malaysia (RIM): tel 03-62509011 , speak to Ms Ma Lee (very pleasant and helpful), and you'll have to e-mail the boss Mr Ramani : ramani@rim.org.my
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yusof
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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thanks!this is very useful to know...great!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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thanks for sharing Raggy
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sungaipelong
PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Yup,true..

ISRC is the most critical unique identifier for the repertoire itself, and it is applies to both physical and those digitize contents..
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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sungaipelong wrote:
Yup,true..

ISRC is the most critical unique identifier for the repertoire itself, and it is applies to both physical and those digitize contents..


leh x terangkn ngan lebih mndalam? huhu aku samar2 lg nih
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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ok,sya cuba terangkan mana yg termampu,kalau ade yg tertinggal,tersilap..tolong la tambah kan..dan ini amat penting dlm digital aset/produk,sbb fizikal aset/produk slalunya xsesusah digital:P

Dalam perjalanan industri rakaman muzik secara worldwide,atau dalam mana2 Syarikat Rakaman International/Domestik,ISRC tersangatlah penting (mandatori) kerana ia mampu menunjukkan Origin,Tahun didaftarkan,Repertoire Owner (RO)/pemilik bagi sesuatu aset tersebut..Dan ia adalah unique dimana ISRC tidak akan berkongsi/duplicate dgn mana2 aset yg lain.Atau secara ringkas 1 ISRC = 1 aset.. senang atau 1 orang = 1 my kad Laughing

Dan sebenarnya bermacam2 lg info yg penting akan dimasukkan dlm sesuatu system pendaftaran utk Aset/Sound Recording tersebut..Nama Artis,Nama Company,Harga,Rights Clearance etc..

Kenapa ISRC salah satu drpd unique ID yg terpenting?ini kerana,jika hanya berpandukan pada Title lagu..akan ada beribu2 tajuk yg sama sebagai contoh tajuk "I Love You"..Akan keluar bermacam2 versi,artis,RO utk tajuk itu,walaupon berpandukan pada Artis yg dikehendaki..jadi disini utk lebih jitu,ISRC lah yg membantu utk menunjukkan/menemukan pada aset yg dicari..<--ini juga bukan utk consumer,

ISRC secara dasarnya digunakan oleh pihak2 tertentu iaitu Syarikat Rakaman,MACP,RIM,etc atas tujuan pembayaran,rujukan dan sebagainya.Dan sebagai contoh ialah apabila aset yg sama digunakan oleh syarikat lain,atas tujuan album kompilasi etc..jd inilah kad pengenalan utk aset tersebut.

The important part ialah pembayaran royalti dan sales la kan?hehe,dan satu lagi..

ISRC duduk mestilah dalam satu2 produk,yakni produk itu pula mempunyai satu ID sendiri EAN/GPid/GRid/UPC bergantung pada produk itu sendiri samada ia physical atau pon digital..ia berbeza..itu cerita lain..

i.e.

Jenis Produk : Single Digital (5099995504789) <--GPid
Artis : Sungaipelong
Tajuk Lagu : Sungai2 mengalir deras (ISRC20100813) <-- ISRC

Sebab consumer beli produk..bukan beli aset.. <--ni pon cerita lain Razz

Pada consumer,kita xperlu pun nak tau ape ISRC ni sebenarnye,tp pada composer/lyricist yg ade lagu2 yg dh diregisterkan kenalah amek pusing bende2 ni..hehe unless kita punya hasil karya seni bukan utk dijual Razz
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Jiro
PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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so...macam mana nak di aplikasi kan? cara cara nya?

ramai lagi yg sebenar nye tak nampak bende bende camni

penerangan mmg dah banyak baca...

tapi jalan cerita utk ke dalam kotak yg selamat tuh tak nampak

cuba bagi langkah2 utk melakukan semua ini...bayaran setiap lagu yg di kene kan..kertas kertas apa yg di perlukan..
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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a'ah btul tu jiro...mcm ne nak aplikasikannya?

tq sungaipelong...info yg bagus!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Jiro wrote:
so...macam mana nak di aplikasi kan? cara cara nya?

ramai lagi yg sebenar nye tak nampak bende bende camni

penerangan mmg dah banyak baca...

tapi jalan cerita utk ke dalam kotak yg selamat tuh tak nampak

cuba bagi langkah2 utk melakukan semua ini...bayaran setiap lagu yg di kene kan..kertas kertas apa yg di perlukan..


apakah maksud jalan cerita ke dalam kotak selamat tu bro?

1. bende2 ni hanya diaplikasi kan oleh rekod label/publisher.

2. utk meregisterkan aset tersebut,mestilah mempunyai agreement dgn mana2 rekod label,xkira la as a artist of the label,distributor deal,projek deal dan segala jenis deal yg lain sbb mana2 existing label dh register diorg punye kompeni dibawah RIM..so it is legal in law.

3. atau xbrani/xsuka dgn label2/publisher2 yg sedia ade,boleh lah buat/register ur own label/publishing house (tp lg jauh renyah kot,nak kene terer byk bab)

4. sign dgn mana2 publisher utk karya anda (composer/lyricist)

5. bayaran royalti/sales bergantung pada deal anda dgn label2 yg berkenaan,terpulang mcm yg dikatakan td..utk digital deal plak lain,biasanya telco and label akan split 50-50..50% hak label itu td akan di splitkan 50-50 lg dgn artis/empunya lagu tersebut..tp klo digital yg pasti telco akan makan lebih..jgn terkejut dgn kenyataan tu..muzik industri bergantungan juga pada mereka2 ini (telco)

6. nak duit mashuk lebih make sure production tu 100% ditanggung sendiri from a-z,klo jd artis so makan royalti je..but that is a different story..mcm2 boleh jadi klau muzik,imej kita hebat Razz

7. kalo diy,sound recording rights kita boleh pegang..means kita boleh buat ape yg kita suke..nak masuk kompilasi ini,itu,sini,sana tanpa terikat dgn mana2 syarat..tp klo rekoding tu sendiri ditanggung oleh label,so we have no rights for the sound recording tersebut..

8. yg penting ialah..daftar kan diri anda dan juga material anda dibawah mana2 publisher,agar harta intelektual anda tidak diciplak,dan jangan takut dgn label2 yg ada..yg penting kene pilih mana yg terbaik utk diri sendiri..
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so kalo some indie label yg x register kira tak legal ke? atau kita punya right xde?

Confused penin
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cerita panjang..

pendek kan..

camne nak register nye apa? apa dokumen yg perlu ada? dekat mana? berapa bayaran nya? form apa kene isi? dgn siapa? chop apa? dan apa apa seterus nya..

tentang semua tuh basically ramai yg dah tau apa kebende semua tuh...tapi tang nak mengcopy right kan nye itu yg tak tau...baca kat web, penuh bahasa ingeris huhh
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King Korek

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Jiro wrote:
cerita panjang..

pendek kan..

camne nak register nye apa? apa dokumen yg perlu ada? dekat mana? berapa bayaran nya? form apa kene isi? dgn siapa? chop apa? dan apa apa seterus nya..

tentang semua tuh basically ramai yg dah tau apa kebende semua tuh...tapi tang nak mengcopy right kan nye itu yg tak tau...baca kat web, penuh bahasa ingeris huhh


kena ada lawyer utk band tuh huhu
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Jiro

ko nak pe sebenornya?
nak copyright kan lagu2 ko ke?

ISRC Code ni utk released/published sound recordings.

kalau band ko ada record label sendiri.. and berdaftar syarikat (enterprise pun boleh), then ko bleh apply ISRC code thru RIM (Recording Industry Association of Malaysia).

kalau ko refer to nak copyright lagu ko.

basically. kalau ko ada lagu. and sudah record, sudah di publish or diupload, sudah ada orang mendengar, sudah ada kawan2 ko dengar, lagu ko dah dikira automatically copyrighted

but kalau dlm pemikiran ko, nak ada document pengesahan pelbagai siap cop official dari satu badan tertentu, then mender ni ko bleh buat sendiri.
all u need is a proper documents pastu pi sah kan kat pesuruhjaya sumpah memana.

see http://www.i-bands.net/articles/malscene-copy2.php

sedutan di bawah.

1. Statutory Declaration for Musical Works (Single Ownership)
This is a Statutory Declaration for your musical works but of a single ownership. By which I mean only one person is the composer and the lyricist

2. Statutory Declaration for Musical Works (Joint Ownership)
This is a Statutory Declaration for your musical works but of a joint ownerships. By which I mean multiple person owns the rights to the musical works, eg: 2 composers or 3 lyricists.

3. Statutory Declaration for Sound Recording (Single Ownership)
This is a Statutory Declaration for your sound recording but of single ownership. By which I mean only one person is the owner or the right word is actually the producer of the sound recording. This is for those who doesn’t have a company under which this sound recording was suppose to be produced under.

4. Statutory Declaration for Sound Recording (Joint Ownership) This is a Statutory Declaration for your sound recording but of joint ownerships. By which I mean more than one person are the owners or the right word is actually the producers of the sound recording. This is for those who don’t have a company under which this sound recording was suppose to be produced under.

5. Statutory Declaration for Sound Recording (Company)
This is a Statutory Declaration for your sound recording but of a company ownership. By which I mean a company is the owner or the producer of the sound recording. Registering a company to produce you sound recording is encouraged. Enterprise is an affordable option.

last time all these documents aku dah link kat page article tu but aku found some sites yg copy and letak kat web dia without giving any credits to i-bands.


anyway, summary.
Takda Badan kat mesia yg ko bleh pi opis dia, sain2 borang, and register copyright, pastu diorang akan simpan dlm record utk menjaga copyright tu. [ ni refer tu individu yg lagu2 nya utk simpanan sendiri bagi kegunaan masa hadapan]
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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alamak..byk bahasa inggeris... sebenar nye aku nak register copyright...tapi seriuos aku lemah bab nih..

ramai dah terang kan

tapi perjalanan nak pegi buat tuh aku tatau... kat mana tempat..borang apa nak isi..apa yg perlu bawa..pastuh apa yg aku sure bole tau lagu aku tuh dah copyright or not

ada syarat syarat yg aku mesti patuhi ke

bayaran ke..

itu semua aku tatau...tapi penerangan tentang copyright aku dah biasa dengar..cuma bila tanya..org selalu tak bole kasi jawapan yg betul aku boleh follow step by step...
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rupanyer susah juga nk buat dwt walo pn byk ilham bley buat lagu eh
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