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| adam |
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| cklife |
| Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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| GryMlock wrote: | eh now ...since jason registered with MACP. then those people collecting old newspaper cannot shout the same tune lah. considered as public performance already..kena apply MACP licence. hehe  |
hahaha.. takde lar beb... shouting diorang takde melody.. takyah..
anyway.. i'd like to rephrase my proves of 'idea waste' by Jason Lo.
| Quote: | Jason Lo had been long time trying to find out something to make him Malaysian.... I met him once.. stumbled upon Sara Lo and gave her my CD NATIONAL DISSERVICE...
and I told'em "You should hear this track called Hang Hero, we have a part where we took from an old slang of newspaper man... you know... it's an album which we try to make it sounds like Malaysian"
And few months later he release THE FALL...
Coincidence????? |
i hope he at least can thank us.. that's about it that we need..
we're never recognised even a bit by him.
he hates our guts. |
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| GryMlock |
| Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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| bendkds |
| Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:03 am Post subject: |
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| GryMlock wrote: | | adam: bukan setakat sucks. it's damn scary wei. there might be some mainstream people going through songs on i-bands and picking up "ideas" from the huge pool of uncopyrighted stuffs we have here. |
Yes. I am one of them.
Except my band still ug because we're too rugged and look like samseng to masuk the mainstream.
Kami rock tulen uncensored! |
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| Jeff |
| Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:03 am Post subject: |
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scary thought that, Grym. And i sympathize with you guys from Bens Bitches, i'd be severely pissed off if that happened to me.
The good thing is you guys are mature enough to take it as it is, even had the courtesy to apologize for acting like mofo, which you had every right to do...respect.
To think that a simple phrase like "thank you" could carry so much weight and make so much of a difference. Coulda saved a lot of people a lot of heartache. |
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| kalium |
| Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Ben's Bitches should be put in jail and sodomized by a big hairy guy for crimes against humanity and music. |
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| adzakael |
| Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Hey... We didn't even profit a single sen from the album ok... we dont get airplayed... we are funded purely DIY.. you know.. from our hardearned money.... and most of all.. we lost in total as we well National Disservice with RM5.. purely so that people can afford to listen to us.. a CD so well-made that it deserves to be priced more higher.. and we have 20tracks.. and sold with Honesty ...
And/ JASON LO... a kid with very very rich Father.. who hangout with very very rich friends like Alex from Singletrackmind...
He's registered to MACP.. which every song he published to airplay will receive money from..... and OLD NEWSPAPER received damn a lot of airplay... somemore.. many many weeks on Hitzfm Charts... and people praise him for his very Original Malaysian identity in the song... |
gile la korang
rupenye dengki dgn Jason Lo punye wealth
skarang aku dah doubt dgn "honesty" korang ni
kirenye org2 kaya tak honest la ye?
anyway
ckp kat dlm forum mmg bole berdegar2
kenape korang tak jumpa Jason sendri,confront die?
tanye die ape citer?
kalu korang rase letak folk rhyme mcm "old newspaper" tu idea korang
meh aku tunjuk satu benda
korang pernah dengo Korn punye "Shoot and Ladder"?
diorang letak nursery rhyme lagi dlm lagu tu
anyway
aku ade beberape link psl copyright kes nak kasi korang
http://download.movedigital.com/pep_delicious/6635/amen_web.mov
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amen_break
actually aku ade receive info psl ade mamat ni claim Neptunes curi drumline die
http://www.sohh.com/articles/article.php/4956
tp takde kes psl drumline maneleh copyright
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| mrbungle |
| Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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aku rase ko dengki dgn JLO bcoz of his fame and success....no need to argue...he's done a lot to our music scene....admit it.. although i dun lick his butt to play in RTW or wutsoever or even know him.....but i enjoyed all of his event or so wut eva...and his a MALAYSIAN...n we should proud of him...
chill out guys...
jom makan karipap..
to ben's = u r one of a kind " IN MALAYSIA" ..n u have lotsa fan..so... like u said..FOK OFF to all this.. and just do wut u guys r doin...PUT HIM ON one of ur new songs...i have a few idea.. " JLO mkn babi " or " JLO mkn bontot ayam " or " JLO stole our song and become rich " .....
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| ZiNK |
| Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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| cklife |
| Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| mrbungle wrote: | aku rase ko dengki dgn JLO bcoz of his fame and success....no need to argue...he's done a lot to our music scene....admit it.. although i dun lick his butt to play in RTW or wutsoever or even know him.....but i enjoyed all of his event or so wut eva...and his a MALAYSIAN...n we should proud of him...
chill out guys...
jom makan karipap..
to ben's = u r one of a kind " IN MALAYSIA" ..n u have lotsa fan..so... like u said..FOK OFF to all this.. and just do wut u guys r doin...PUT HIM ON one of ur new songs...i have a few idea.. " JLO mkn babi " or " JLO mkn bontot ayam " or " JLO stole our song and become rich " ..... |
Betul mrbungle.. aku pun setuju dengan idea ko...
Buat satu lagu tentang dia saja lar. |
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| cklife |
| Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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| adzakael wrote: | | Quote: | Hey... We didn't even profit a single sen from the album ok... we dont get airplayed... we are funded purely DIY.. you know.. from our hardearned money.... and most of all.. we lost in total as we well National Disservice with RM5.. purely so that people can afford to listen to us.. a CD so well-made that it deserves to be priced more higher.. and we have 20tracks.. and sold with Honesty ...
And/ JASON LO... a kid with very very rich Father.. who hangout with very very rich friends like Alex from Singletrackmind...
He's registered to MACP.. which every song he published to airplay will receive money from..... and OLD NEWSPAPER received damn a lot of airplay... somemore.. many many weeks on Hitzfm Charts... and people praise him for his very Original Malaysian identity in the song... |
gile la korang
rupenye dengki dgn Jason Lo punye wealth
skarang aku dah doubt dgn "honesty" korang ni
kirenye org2 kaya tak honest la ye?
anyway
ckp kat dlm forum mmg bole berdegar2
kenape korang tak jumpa Jason sendri,confront die?
tanye die ape citer?
kalu korang rase letak folk rhyme mcm "old newspaper" tu idea korang
meh aku tunjuk satu benda
korang pernah dengo Korn punye "Shoot and Ladder"?
diorang letak nursery rhyme lagi dlm lagu tu
anyway
aku ade beberape link psl copyright kes nak kasi korang
http://download.movedigital.com/pep_delicious/6635/amen_web.mov
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amen_break
actually aku ade receive info psl ade mamat ni claim Neptunes curi drumline die
http://www.sohh.com/articles/article.php/4956
tp takde kes psl drumline maneleh copyright |
dengki???
cuba lar kalau ada orang ambik idea kau.. lepas tu.. cakap tu idea dia..
tu bukan dengki... tu sakit hati...
aku ckp.. sebab.. aku buat in comparison... taklah susah kalau Jason Lo ckp ngan kita nak guna idea tu.... mamat tu ambik CD saya...
hey.. dia siap ambik CD saya FREE lagi tau...
adzakael.. you belum ada CD National Disservice lagi.. you tak tau how much effort we put to get it out... masa tu.. kita masih kerja macam kuli saja tau....
UNLESS... Everything he does is really COINCIDENCE...
which i doubt so.. becoz. he took the CD and few months later he release it as hidden track...
How about this.. Imagine some mainstream dude like M Nasir scoundrel through I-bands.net and took one of the uncopyrighted stuff... and just becoz it's the best.. it got to be hitz....
Fame+Good Song= HITZ
where..people like us... No Fame+Song=Nothing.
You sounds like a graphic designer who accomplice with mainstream guys.. that's why you'll never understand the DIY culture..
I still love you Adzakael.. you dont have to buy our CD if you really dont like us... but i still love you... making love is an option.
thank you very much for your honest comments. You can direct the rest of your info to Ben.. he'd be more likely to help you with your graphic design..
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| cklife |
| Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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| kalium wrote: | | Ben's Bitches should be put in jail and sodomized by a big hairy guy for crimes against humanity and music. |
damn right they should be. |
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| adzakael |
| Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:50 am Post subject: |
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1.i have the National Disservice CD and both Ben's Bitches and Jason Lo's songs and i have listened to both many times.
2.all songs recorded and kept in i-bands vault are automatically copyrighted to the artist and songwriter (and producer,kalau bertuah la)
3.was it Jason Lo OR Sara Lo who got the CD?
4.ade kemungkinan Jason tak pernah dengar CD tu dan Sara Lo yg bagi idea guna "old newspaper" dlm lirik lagu.
5.yes,kemungkinan Jason dpt idea tu sendri tanpa referring to BB's punye CD tu ada.Benda mcm ni bnyk kali berlaku,sbb aku sendri pernah kena kes gitu dgn this huge corporate (tapi itu different story).
6.comparing Hang Hero and Jason's song,mmg dua2 jauh beza dr segi mood,content and context.Similarity cuma limited dekat part "old newspaper" shj.Lagipun, generic phrase "old newspaper" bukannya dicipta olh Ben's Bitches sama sekali.Takde pulak aku nampak ada tanda dagang/niaga kat tepi phrase tu.That generic phrase has been around for years since God knows when.
7.Idea letak familiar folk phrase/elements kat dlm lagu dah lama org buat.Mcm Korn dlm lagu "Shoot and Ladder",diorang letak nursery rhyme's yg gile familiar dlm lagu diorang.Intro pun pakai idea yg sama,bagpipe dgn serunai.
8."Hang Hero" pakai mood agressive,content pon jenis provokatif.Lagu Jason Lo tu langsung pakai mood dan content yg berbeza.Arrangement pon lain gile.Jadi pertuduhan Jason Lo curi/plagiat lagu Hang Hero tu amat,amat,amat lah lemah sama sekali.
9.Mcm ni la,semua org tak boleh tulis "Aku cinta padamu" dlm lagu diorang psl nanti Sheila Majid marah.Eh,aku rase phrase "Aku cinta padamu" tu dah berkurun orang pakai.Jadi Sheila Majid plagiat lagu sape ek?
10.Sumer org takleh tulis phrase "Forever Young" dlm lagu diorang sbb Youth Group dah guna idea tu dlm lagu diorang.Eh,hold on.Youth Group cover lagu Alphaville "Forever Young",so Alphaville yg patut marah.Tapi tunggu jap.Bob Dylan pon ade lagu tajuk "Forever Young".Rod Stewart pon ade lagu "Forever Young" jugak,sumer tak cover memasing lak tu,sumer lagu lain2.Jadi siape harus tuduh siapa plagiat sape ni? utk list penuh tgk link ni http://www.apra.com.au/site/public/searchworksresult.stm?worktitle=FOREVER%20YOUNG&switchdet=Y
11.Camne lak dgn phrase "Hello,How Are You" Haa,yg tu tgk link ni http://www.apra.com.au/site/public/searchworksresult.stm?worktitle=HELLO%20HOW%20ARE%20YOU&switchdet=Y
12.cube korang pergi http://repertoire.bmi.com/startpage.asp
pastu letak search "Sexercise","Cigarette","Worry" dgn "Stuck in the Rain"
the question would be "patut ke artis2 yg ade kat dlm list tu marah korang psl korang pakai phrase yg sama utk title lagu korang?"
"patut ke diorang sumer tuduh korang plagiat tajuk lagu korang?"
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| kalium |
| Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Ajeep lagi kaya drp Jason Lo. |
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