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| Otaizam |
 Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:31 pm Post subject: Jom Borak pasal pickup |
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hi.....
actually aku ni tengah terpikir2 pasal nak tukau pickup...... tengok Dirmazio memang okay... tehn banyak choice.... then Seymour Duncan... pun okay... banyak choice lagi tu....
Then. sebab banyak sangar model diorang ni dan banyak charector setiap pick up... so why not kita discuss, apa pickup yan gkorang pakai... kenapa pilih pickup tu? then model yang mana satu, contoh, PAF Pro ke... Tone Zone ke? Humbucker from hell... ke?
So... cuba cerita sikit....
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:34 am Post subject: |
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few months ago, i bought a set of Fender Hot Noiseless single coil pickup.. terpengaruh dengan Jeff Beck la kononnya. This Fender Hot Noiseless is a stacked humbucker. Stacked Humbucker bermaksud, ada dua coil secara bertingkat berbanding humbucker biasa yang sebelah menyebelah. So pickup ni dari depan, nampak memang single coil la..
Pickup ni sesuai utk kayu body yang flat/bright eq macam alder dan basswood. It offers big, bassy and fat tone. Guitar fender japan aku menggunakan kayu body jenis Sen Ash. Kayu ni memberikan tone yang bassy berbanding kayu alder. Kuat sangat bass dia. Aku dah compare dgn guitar SRV member aku. Mula main clean tanpa cucuk kat amp kemudian ketuk2 body. Memang tone yang keluar tu jauh beza terutamanya bhg Mid dan Trebble frequency.
Jadi, dgn kayu body aku yg bassy dan menggunakan pickup yang bassy, maka kombinasi ni menyebabkan tone response yang keluar dari pickup aku tu kurang bite. Body trebble kurang. Walaupun naikkan treble pada amp, tapi frequency trebble pada amp berbeza. Akibatnya, pickup ni memberikan tone yang kurang best kalau bermain dgn low volume. Sesuai untuk rock yg gain distortionnya banyak. Kalau nak main low gain, mcm SRV, maka soundnya agak kurang bite. Tak menggigit gitu..
So, aku dah jual pickup tu. Sekarang guitar aku tak mempunyai pickup pun. Aku still tengah berkira2, pickup apa yang sesuai dengan kayu body aku dalam masa yang sama suite my taste.
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| deadzid |
| Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:55 am Post subject: |
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hmm pickup pilihan aku;
Seymour Duncan:
(S) Brigde - Hot Rails
(H) Brigde - JB
(H) Neck - Jazz / '59
EMG:
(S) Brigde - EMG-SA / EMG-S
(H) Brigde - EMG-81 (mahogany), EMG-85 (others)
(H) Neck - EMG-85 / EMG-60
tapi tu semua angan2 je la..
aku dok pakai stock pickup dari dulu lagi!
heheh...
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| deadzid |
| Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:59 am Post subject: |
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| IZZI wrote: | | ..Kalau nak main low gain, mcm SRV, maka soundnya agak kurang bite. Tak menggigit gitu... |
hehe tu yg dok gigit gitar je yea? hehe
| IZZI wrote: | | ..So, aku dah jual pickup tu. Sekarang guitar aku tak mempunyai pickup pun. Aku still tengah berkira2, pickup apa yang sesuai dengan kayu body aku dalam masa yang sama suite my taste. |
abis tu gitar ko terbengkalai gitu je ke? selama ni ko main gitar sapa lak?
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:12 am Post subject: |
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pickup tu aku baru je jual..sekarang main guitar tanpa cucuk la.. punya la tak best..
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| ZiNK |
| Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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| khairold |
| Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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aku pernah baca kat www.amptone.com tak silap aku
dia kata pickup ni boleh dikatakan macam eq sebelum distortion
so dia suggest letak kita letak eq pedal sebelum distortion
lepas tu dial in sampai dapat bunyi yang project frequency response guitar tu dengan baik
lepas tu guna eq curve tu & carik pickup yang mempunyai response curve yang sama
contoh: seymour duncan jb punya eq: 8 / 6 / 5 (Treb / Mid / Bass)
dan kita akan dapat pickup yang dapat memberikan bunyik terbaik untuk guitar kita |
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| silbi |
| Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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aku prefer pikap yg the brand name is imprinted on it...hehe...
tapi the tone quality must be better than stock lah...
so far i've only installed an SD SH-10 full shred..gitar lain punye pu sume stock je.
But for some strange reason i really love the stock pu of my SX LP copy...dunno why |
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| Otaizam |
| Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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| khairold wrote: | aku pernah baca kat www.amptone.com tak silap aku
dia kata pickup ni boleh dikatakan macam eq sebelum distortion
so dia suggest letak kita letak eq pedal sebelum distortion
lepas tu dial in sampai dapat bunyi yang project frequency response guitar tu dengan baik
lepas tu guna eq curve tu & carik pickup yang mempunyai response curve yang sama
contoh: seymour duncan jb punya eq: 8 / 6 / 5 (Treb / Mid / Bass)
dan kita akan dapat pickup yang dapat memberikan bunyik terbaik untuk guitar kita |
Now I am getting understabd more about the pickups, i mean about the eq thing.
I think the most critcal to know is the body sound sebelum kita nak try that EQ setting tu kalau ikut experiment kat atas... cuma tengah pikir ni... let say kita try that EQ using the existing pu. tak ke existing pickup itu dah mempengaruhi bunyik, dan sedikit sebanyak, originality body sound dah terpengaruh jugak...
so, is there other way kita nak dengar body sound electronically dengan tepat? so then boleh la letak eq pedal before distortion....
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| khairold |
| Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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betul otaizam
aku pun pernah terpikir pasal existing pickup itu dah mempengaruhi bunyi bila nak setkan eq tu
aku baca benda tu lama dah so aku pun tak ingat aku dah lupa or mmg tak pernah jumpa solution dia |
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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| khairold wrote: | aku pernah baca kat www.amptone.com tak silap aku
dia kata pickup ni boleh dikatakan macam eq sebelum distortion
so dia suggest letak kita letak eq pedal sebelum distortion
lepas tu dial in sampai dapat bunyi yang project frequency response guitar tu dengan baik
lepas tu guna eq curve tu & carik pickup yang mempunyai response curve yang sama
contoh: seymour duncan jb punya eq: 8 / 6 / 5 (Treb / Mid / Bass)
dan kita akan dapat pickup yang dapat memberikan bunyik terbaik untuk guitar kita |
good tips.. nanti aku try... caya.. caya..
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| Mad Souls |
| Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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gitar aku pulak pakai seymour duncan invader (bridge) dgn full shred (neck). full shred sedap jugak la utk solo...invader ni sesuai utk metal sound and palm muting punya riff...tapi problem bila main clean...clean sound pun distort gak sbb output very high. 
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| ultraman_cosmo |
| Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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bagi aku banyak juga kena consider ne
1. eq
2. output, DC R
3. harmonic , sustain , brignt n bla bla baot tone
4. split, parellel humbuker n parellel 2 humbuker wiring mode.
5. voicing, kengkadang disebabkan jenis magnet.
6. brand, gaya
7. pickup size, spacing, wiring type, pole style n plat cover
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8. guitar construction, type, body, bridge system, locking sistem n bla
9. position neck bridge or midle, ukuran ruang pickup
10. balance pickup setara, maybe others pickups on guitar
11. active pasif electronic n pot value
12. music style, genre
13. playing style
Apa lagi aaaaa?
- maybe kita sesama boleh binchang
Sebulan lepas aku beli both bridge n neck dimarzio evolution for kelly 3.
kat gain 10 singapura
http://www.gain10music.com/product_listing.php?type=Guitar%20Pickup&brand=Dimarzio
- murah sangat beli dimarzio kat situ.
- tapi utk SD macam lebih kurang jer.
- EVO aku tanya harga kat sini 450 - 520.
- aku beli sin132 + sin8 = sin 140 == RM333 jer
- shipping 8sin flat rate utk semenanjung dan dalam masa seminggu sahaja sebab pakai mail air biasa.
- payment, just transfer guna RHB or OCBC, so tak perlu bayar fee, maybe kene charge 50 sen sebab transaction luar cawangan.
- ako aku beli SD kat bentley maybe harga lebih dari RM350.
- dan kalo aku beli dimarzio kat malaysia, kita ceta RM400 ke atas la utk hunbuker.
- DAN aku puas hati dengan layanan diorang, gain10 tau cam mana nak declare barang supaya tak kene cukai samada dia letak harga murah atau declare as hadiah ker or sebagainya.
Pickup yang ada kat guitar guitar aku sekarang adalah EVO, X2N, DIME SH-13, SH-1 59 n HS-2 [si crybaby]. maybe boleh dikongsikan review dia.
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| silbi |
| Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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gain10 looks like a good place to shop.
kalau aku nak upgrade stock pu ibanez rg270dx aku, which is now using powersound...pu apa korang suggest?? say i'm more into old skool rock / metal - metallica-ish sound - tapi nak yg very good for clean sound...
actually, powersound aku tu masuk zoom dah ok dah coz i'm not so fussy...but using analog stompboxes, memang sound dia pelik sikit, depending on amp... |
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| ZiNK |
| Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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