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IZZI
PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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aku rasa mcm pelik pulak bab tu.. katakan kita nak pakai compressor dgn overdrive dah tak boleh... peliknya..
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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deadzid wrote:
ehh kalau pakai Soldano / Mesa Boogie punya amp model pon takleh dpt hi-gain distortion yg best ke?

tp mmg jarang aku tgk org pakai menatang ni.. maybe sbb mahal kot? aku rasa harga turun ni pasal dia nak compete dgn Zoom punya G9 kot? dual-pedal + tube inside!


guna Soldano / Mesa Boogie.. hmmm.. aku sebenarnya jarang main dengan dua amp tu
aku rasa ok gak la
tapi kalau cam nak nu metal nya sound yang heavy gila aku rasa tak ngam sgt
aku baca forum semua mmg org ckp benda yang sama
tapi baru semalam aku dengar demo org setting hi-gain, sedap la pulak
tah tah aku je yang tak reti nak setting kot

tapi aku rasa ramai org doubt keberkesanan tube dalam effect cam Tonelab & G9 tu
sbb dia hanya simulate tapi bukan nya function bebetul as power amp tube

IZZI wrote:
aku rasa mcm pelik pulak bab tu.. katakan kita nak pakai compressor dgn overdrive dah tak boleh... peliknya..


a ah mmg pelik
lepas tu Vox takde buat forum macam Line6 buat
so user kene pepandai buat website or forum sendiri nak bincang and share patches
lagi benda ni simple sgt and tak leh banyak nak tweak
in away boleh ckp dia tak flexible
bebenda ni buat tak ramai org yang guna, especially in malaysia
tapi kalau kat forum worlwide agak ramai jugak aku tgk org guna

masa memula aku buat research nak beli
org selalu nya compare kan Tonelab SE against Pod XT and GT8
secara general nya aku dapati
ramai org yang more towards modern sound and hi gain sound akan ke arah Pod XT & GT8
simple ol school ppl yang suka clean and classic rock akan ke arah Tonelab

dan itu banyak mempengaruhi aku ke arah Tonelab
sbb aku nak something yang simple & response paling sama macam tube amp
and aku tak kisah sgt tambah effect lain on top of it asalkan aku suka bunyi dia

macam semua simulator, Tonelab, Pod, GT8 etc..
masalah yang selalu dihadapi ialah cemana nak amplify kan
mmg banyak discussion pasal benda ni
antara solution nya ialah

cucuk je dekat input amp biasa
tapi setting kan semua EQ kat 12
boleh jugak guna EQ tu sebagai post EQ untuk effect tersebut

cucuk dekat fx loop amp

guna keyboard amp sbb unlike guitar amp, keyboard amp tak color kan signal

guna slave amp like Tech 21 Power Engine 60

guna Power Amp -> Cabinet

sebenarnya aku opt for the last one tu
aku dah angkat Peavey Classic 50/50 Steareo Tube Power Amp & satu Marshall Amp 2x12 yang dah dia cabut dia nya amp so tinggal speaker je

tapi power amp tu nak kene tukar tube, so aku belum test lagi setup tu

panjang lak aku cite ni harap harap berguna untuk org yang membaca.. hehe
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IZZI
PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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aku rasa engineer yg buat tonelab i mesti ada reason dia buat mcm tu.. ntah2 tonelab ni bukan 100% guna DSP programming..

jap lagi aku nak buat literature sikit pasal tonelab ni.. hehehe.. soundclip dia dah dgr dah.. sedap ..

tgk dlm ni dah ada forum dia..

http://www.tonelab.net/

ni salah satu demo sound dia.. (metal punya sound takde ..)

http://www.voxamps.co.uk/downloads/tonelab_demo.mp3

aku rasa mcm ngam utk aku je ni.. dah la murah..
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