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HuntressM00n
PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 2:11 pm    Post subject: Cradle of Filth is not a goth? Reply with quote

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the arguments.....
yeah at first back then i thought COF was goth... but as i met friends who actually showed me the difference between goth and melodic death metal..

pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.................. tell me what is the difference between goth music and cof style of music
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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dunno la .. goth maybe more of an attitude?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Goth=

Bauhaus
Tones on Tail
Peter Murphy
Sisters of Mercy
early Cure
Fields of the Nephilim
Rosetta Stone
Red Lorry Yellow Lorry
Most of the shit off the 4AD label
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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kalium wrote:
Goth=

Bauhaus
Tones on Tail
Peter Murphy
Sisters of Mercy
early Cure
Fields of the Nephilim
Rosetta Stone
Red Lorry Yellow Lorry
Most of the shit off the 4AD label



thanks.. apparently, in another forum, there's an argument going on about it.. thats why i open this thread..

please check out at

http://forum.metalterus.com.my/viewtopic.php?p=73650#73650
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some ppl say U2 is GOTH...... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Musically, COF definitely not goth, it more towards melodic death metal etc..the Cure, of course goth. Refer to the Cure provious album (before yr 2000) such as Wish, Disintegration etc. Robert Smith did it long time ago in songs like Picture Of You, From Edge Of The Deep Green Sea & Lullaby.
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dunno about those commercial goth bands / music.. tapi kalau gothic music in metal aku tau la...

seingat aku, the concept was first introduced by the british band - Paradise Lost..
Their album "Gothic" says it all.. although some might argue saying that their concept at that time was more into doom metal..

Goth music relates to dark stuff, hence the birth of gothic black metal, gothic doom metal, etc..
dlm scene metal ni, yg aku tengok trend dia, asal ada vocalist pompuan je, band tu terus dilabel sbg gothic band..

example: Within Temptation, (early) Lacuna Coil, The Sins Of Thy Beloved (gothic black), etc..
not sure about Cradle Of Filth, tapi kalau tak salah aku, depa ni black metal, kan?

selain tu, dlm dunia fashion pun ada gak konsep goth ni hehe...
ade one time tu aku tgk budak2 sekolah berpakaian ala2 goth yg berselerak kat Berjaya Times Square...
dgn mascara tebal, celak, dressing ala2 My Chemical Romance, etc.. geli hati lak aku nengok...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i guess its the gloomy literature.maybe not so much what genre of music.maybe it could be heavy or mellow but if the vibe is dark and romantic i guess it could be considered 'gothic'.
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ammirhafzan wrote:
Musically, COF definitely not goth, it more towards melodic death metal etc..the Cure, of course goth. Refer to the Cure provious album (before yr 2000) such as Wish, Disintegration etc. Robert Smith did it long time ago in songs like Picture Of You, From Edge Of The Deep Green Sea & Lullaby.


Yup, I'd always assumed Smith's goth factor stopped at Disintegration and Wish. Albums after that seemed rather pop. Bloodflowers was a dip back into the goth pool.

For some early gems Cure goth, check out the following albums:

Pornography
Seventeen Seconds
The Top
Head on the Door
Kiss me, kiss me, kiss me

and their various EP's & Singles

Songs like A Forest, Shake Dog Shake, One Hundred Years, Primary are perfect tunes to listen to while driving down a foggy east cost drive.

Other shit I used to listen to while driving up to Kerteh in the dark:

Clan Of Xymox
Cocteau Twins
Dead Can Dance
Joy Division
Skinny Puppy
Siouxsie & the Banshees

In the late 80's there was crossover genre: Industrial Goth.

Metal-Goth and all the variations seem to have evolved from Industrial-Goth ...since Industrial seems to have morphed into Metal sometimes in the mid 90's.
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yeah, did you all realize that some gothic kid refers COF as gothic band..?? Laughing
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I really couldn't really give two s**ts about COF. They are crap. But hey, thats just me.

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deadzid wrote:

selain tu, dlm dunia fashion pun ada gak konsep goth ni hehe...
ade one time tu aku tgk budak2 sekolah berpakaian ala2 goth yg berselerak kat Berjaya Times Square...
dgn mascara tebal, celak, dressing ala2 My Chemical Romance, etc.. geli hati lak aku nengok...


Pastu dengar telepon dia bunyi lagu Paris Hilton. Macam sial.
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Ridzi wrote:
deadzid wrote:

selain tu, dlm dunia fashion pun ada gak konsep goth ni hehe...
ade one time tu aku tgk budak2 sekolah berpakaian ala2 goth yg berselerak kat Berjaya Times Square...
dgn mascara tebal, celak, dressing ala2 My Chemical Romance, etc.. geli hati lak aku nengok...


Pastu dengar telepon dia bunyi lagu Paris Hilton. Macam sial.


hahah...btl tu...masa hr sukan sekolah aku bulan lepas pn lebih kurang benda yg sama jd...kat blkg aku ada la beberapa bdk dok sembang...nk p jamm.punya la kalut dok tny spa nk men gitar,sapa nk men bass...tgk rupa mcm genh2 emo,screamo...ada yg pakai celak...last2 aku terdengar la diorang ni sebut: "aku dh lama praktis ni,x sabar nk jamm...keunggulan cinta...dari sinar mata...yg menerima..."

aku rasa korang mst cam kot lirik lagu sapa...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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universal_man wrote:
Ridzi wrote:
deadzid wrote:

selain tu, dlm dunia fashion pun ada gak konsep goth ni hehe...
ade one time tu aku tgk budak2 sekolah berpakaian ala2 goth yg berselerak kat Berjaya Times Square...
dgn mascara tebal, celak, dressing ala2 My Chemical Romance, etc.. geli hati lak aku nengok...


Pastu dengar telepon dia bunyi lagu Paris Hilton. Macam sial.


hahah...btl tu...masa hr sukan sekolah aku bulan lepas pn lebih kurang benda yg sama jd...kat blkg aku ada la beberapa bdk dok sembang...nk p jamm.punya la kalut dok tny spa nk men gitar,sapa nk men bass...tgk rupa mcm genh2 emo,screamo...ada yg pakai celak...last2 aku terdengar la diorang ni sebut: "aku dh lama praktis ni,x sabar nk jamm...keunggulan cinta...dari sinar mata...yg menerima..."

aku rasa korang mst cam kot lirik lagu sapa...


for real life... i saw one kid dress up quite 'MCR'ish.. with all those unbalance hair cutting.. and guess what.. his a FAGGOT... tipah tertipu muahahaha... baru je ingat nak tarik masuk band... cancel...
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ETERNAL wrote:


for real life... i saw one kid dress up quite 'MCR'ish.. with all those unbalance hair cutting.. and guess what.. his a FAGGOT... tipah tertipu muahahaha... baru je ingat nak tarik masuk band... cancel...


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