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| browndog2woof |
 Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:03 pm Post subject: delay analog vs digital vs tape vs tube tape vs true bypass |
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fretted bros,
ramai tanya aku tang ni, aku sendiri very 'memilih' over this matter.
aku dah main banyak delay, title disini akan membabitkan sound dan convenient to user.
preference aku memanglah yg ori, tapi aku check (belom test lagi) ada 3 calon, satu mahal dan satu lebih kurang gak. aku prefer danalectro atau guyatone flip atau the best fulltone (utk 2 alam). danalectro (usd 17+)kalah tang true bypass je..flip menang harga dan true bypass (usd 225), fulltone (usd 1200) fulammakkattak, tak mampu.
lain2 brand, hiwatt ada, keeley ada, ehx ada, etc. vintage lak, swiss echo, wem, roland, etc.
reason aku tulis ni sebab aku suka analog delay dgn truebypass. aku dah 'feddup' dgn banyak review aku baca kat net yg kekadangnya buyers..most of the fet switching pedals buffer dia hancos dan alter sound. kalau nak selamat pakai lah looper (wobo), tone direct tu tak la alterted sangat. penyudahnya, 'noahs ark' from japan dgn programmable looper agak cun gak.
oleh itu utk menyelamatkan diri aku dan tak mau lagi 'beserabut berok', aku cari yg true bypass utk setup aku...aku dah 'finalised' dan malas nak beli pedals lagi...currently aku guna 'izzi's' delay....just waiting for my budget for guyatone flip tube echo je...
ada recommendation untuk pedal2 yg similiar dgn ni tak yg nak dijual atau yang sedang dijual?
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| ultraman_cosmo |
| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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Bang,
Dalectron tu Peanut Butter & Jelly Kaaaa.
Sebenarnya aku tak berapa biasa sangat dengan delay. Sebab jarang guna. Aku lebih suka bunyi reverb.
Aku ader guna delay DD3, DD6, korg, podxt n GT-8 tapi mostly digital.
- utk podxt ia terlalu digital bagi aku.
- utk GT-8 walopun digital tapi utk create analog feel tak der masalah dan perlu tweak balik.
Pesoalan aku, aper sebenarnya yang perlu diambik kira utk satu pedal delay tu diketegorikan bagus.
- Quality bypass mod
- Quality bunyi delay berbanding bunyi asal.
- Panjang delay.
- feedback n rate amount.
- flavour dari delay pedal tu
- or depend dengan citarasa masing masing.
- or selain dari tu.
Sebab bagi aku macam DD3 contohnya.
- switching hanyalah utk on effect delay blen dengan bunyi asal.
- tak macam distortion biasa yang tak ader direct channel.
- dan macam keeley mod utk anolog feel lebih kepada high cut supaya tak der bunyi high frequency digital.
- ada keadah utk rebuild balik fet switch supaya ia lebih truebypass tapi utk pedal boss khasnya kena carik the transistor.
Aper komen tentang yang lain lain cam
1. Electro Harmonix Deluxe Memory Man = review sangat bagus.
2. Electro Harmonix 16 Second Reissue Digital Delay Pedal
3. Ibanez AD9 - antara yang aku carik
4. Maxon AD999 Analog Delay
5. Boss DD20
6. Rocktron Short Timer
7. Hughes & Kettner Replex Vintage Tape Delay Simulator
8. Guyatone MD3 Micro Digital Delay Pedals
9. Danelectro Reel Echo™ Tape Echo
10. Akai E2 Headrush Delay/Looper Pedal = review sangat bagus.
11. T-Rex Effects, Replica Delay Pedal = review sangat bagus.
12. Moog Music MF104Z Moogerfooger Analog Delay Pedal - huh
13. TC Electronic Vintage Delay Pedal = Mahal gileerrrrr
13. Damage Control TimeLine Stereo Parametric Delay Pedal
14. Diamond Memory Lane Analog Delay Pedal
15. Carl Martin DeLayla XL Delay Pedal
16. ToadWorks Redux Pedal
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| pa'an |
| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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aku happy dengan Ibanez De-7 aku. cinta pendengaran pertama.
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| browndog2woof |
| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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fretted bro,
no. 13 no doubt la, tc, no. 7 kantoi (member aku nye, tried oredi..) no.9 aku dah kata tadi (sorry, tak specific pasal model), cuma tak true bypass dan no. 14 ada katanya calon tapi mau try gak..yg lain tu bukan citarasa aku la bro..dulu aku ada ad999 pon aku tolak kat 'nubly', dm2. dm3, dd2, dd3, ad9, ibanez 10 series analog, ibanez 10 series digital, rackmount alesis quadraverb, digitech tah ape model, boss half rack, (greyish colour), sde 2000, spx 90 dan rack mount analog delay boss (karaoke model). last aku beli, digi delay because of tape select ada (konon2)..last aku pakai 'izzi's' delay.. kalau rack, aku prefer spx 90 tu, 'berantu habis!' (pon tolak gak!, ha ha ha!)
anyway thanks for your advise...ada lagi anyone? seems like danalectro no.9 tu mengancam kot? kena pakai looper boleh settle ni..'izzi' pon recommend yg ni gak...
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| ultraman_cosmo |
| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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Moog Music MF104Z Moogerfooger Analog Delay Pedal ada try brother.
- ini yang sampai 1000msecond analog nyer.
- ada review kata nak pakai kat vocal pun cun juga.
Boleh bagi review skit akan benda benda delay yang pernah pakai kaa?
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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bentley dah start jual electro harmonix tu, cuba ko check memory man punya delay ke ape.. mana tau kena dgn taste ko
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| ultraman_cosmo |
| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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| IZZI wrote: | | bentley dah start jual electro harmonix tu, cuba ko check memory man punya delay ke ape.. mana tau kena dgn taste ko |
hurrayyyyyy... EHX dah mai...
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| browndog2woof |
| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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| ultraman_cosmo wrote: | Moog Music MF104Z Moogerfooger Analog Delay Pedal ada try brother.
- ini yang sampai 1000msecond analog nyer.
- ada review kata nak pakai kat vocal pun cun juga.
Boleh bagi review skit akan benda benda delay yang pernah pakai kaa? |
fretted bro,
alamak, itu macam ka.....blom try, aku pakai delay kontot2 je..yg ni pergh!.....jauh sangat kot.....jaco 'hyzzafreak' bole pakai la, dia buat overdub kat jazz festival...
dm2 - sedap analog tone, boleh lah adjust length sikit2 kat dalam, part best dia ada itu crackle a bit kat hujung2
dm3 - lebih kurang sama, but a bit cleaner, warmth ada kurang sikit
dd2 - stereo out...(macam mixed dgn dry je, bukan pan.) typical digital with hi fidelity, tak la kering kontang sangat...
dd3 - ini banyak version, chip kecik la, chip besar la, blue lable la, pink lable la, japan la, taiwan la...aku penin...morally, taiwan vs japan la...
ad9 - macam dm3 gak, more clear with warnth tone (yg lama la..) yg baru tu macam reissue la, korang tau la...
ibanez 10 series delay analog - best, still analog, tapi longer time...
ibanez 10 series digital delay - best, true stereo...(seriously this 2 better than boss)
ad 999 - best - semua cukup, hardwire bypass kot, so happens i needed the money and kawan aku offer rm 400. so i sold it. tak sempat bukak tengok dalam pon...(yg silver with butterfly aku kempunan la bro, ada siapa2 ada? aku mau try...)
alesis - rack mount yg kena dgn budget la...
digitech 80s..- pergh! memang steam, bunyik americana la...car park setting dia macam kat real..tekan butang yg tak sanggup tu...
spx 90, semua org cakap best, memang best, tekan butang campor scroll..
roland digital echo - best dan ada surround version, spartial delay katanya, macam ambulance melintas...
boss half rack - semua knobs dan pakai footswitch....
note: menatang ni separuh tak practical sangat dgn aku, sekarang aku dah KISS. keep it short and simple..(sebenarnya kopak takde duit itu pasal jual..ha ha ha!) jadi la macam sekarang...
tape echo ori...semua org cakap best la..sound konon.....aku try lak pakai tape ribbon jurassic park, banyak noise kat motor dan mechanical clicks..plus dah uzur dan diperbomohkan sejak azali...walaumacam mana pon, memang sedap! pergh! lain macam. member aku ada satu...nanti ko nak ambik amp, kita try...
conclusion: aku mau pakai apa aku mampu dan practical utk music aku dan mudah mobile dan muat pedal case. ingat, aku tak ada roadie atau macai, pedal case pun baru tempah semalam kat karen kepong..letih dah kerja sambong2 ni...aku nak cari standard pedal yg sedap..mesti true bypass, demi amp aku kelak...
yg lain2 tu tinggal kat playing je..
woof!
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| browndog2woof |
| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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| IZZI wrote: | | bentley dah start jual electro harmonix tu, cuba ko check memory man punya delay ke ape.. mana tau kena dgn taste ko |
fretted bro,
aku dah test la, wire letrik tu kacau je....semalam aku beli amp brand x utk belasah..tak nampak pon itu barang?...(chorus, virato and delay)
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| ultraman_cosmo |
| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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Wah, good review brother.
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