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| ultraman_cosmo |
 Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:52 am Post subject: |
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Semalam,
Gua baru angkat powertube 6L6, OTranformer, pot dan beberapa part lain dari CERIATONE. Dari segi harga rasanya, ceriatone paling munasabah. bukan tune jer even part utk amplifier sebab seriusly aku memang tahu harga semasa bebenda kecik macam cap, pot, OT sebab biasa carik kat internet n ebay. Pas ne rasanya dah boleh order part guna email dan hantar pakai poslaju jer. Tapi paling penting adalah nik senang nak bawak berbincang term of best part n product. Banyak juga jenis tube kat rack stock dia.
Tq kepada brother browndog2woof n nik yang banyak bagi tunjuk ajar.
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| keysersoze |
| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 12:07 pm Post subject: .. |
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wahh ultraman_cosmo..
apa projek? ot tu pushpull ka single ended? musti projek besa nih.
u pun buat tube amp ka?bole la kite diskusi2 skit..aku pon amateur je.
caps and pots aku tak penah ankat kat nik..brape dier jual?jalan pasar aku cari 'pots log' pun susah.mmg takde pun. |
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| ultraman_cosmo |
| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 12:19 pm Post subject: Re: .. |
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| keysersoze wrote: | wahh ultraman_cosmo..
apa projek? ot tu pushpull ka single ended? musti projek besa nih.
u pun buat tube amp ka?bole la kite diskusi2 skit..aku pon amateur je.
caps and pots aku tak penah ankat kat nik..brape dier jual?jalan pasar aku cari 'pots log' pun susah.mmg takde pun. |
boleh tahan murah la... stakat pot tu dalam rm 3 ker 7 cam tu ikut value kalo tak silap. Alpha pot ne. Nik also mention kat jalan pasar ada banyak china nyer alpha. Mana nak dapat. Maybe aku nak order filter cap plak pas ne. Silver mica pun ada... Aku bab bab tube amp ne... kira bukan amateur la, tapi ketegory tak tau menda... hhahahahah. Aku tengah slowly merangkak study circuit dia.
OT tu bukan aku nyer, tu kawan punya utk plexi50 dia. entah aku pun tak tau menatang tu.
Log pot ada ahhh. reverse log aku tak pasti.
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| keysersoze |
| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 12:41 pm Post subject: .. |
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plexi50 eih..powerful tu.2times el34.
kalu nak studi tube amp..try AX84.com. and byk link2 kat dlm tuh...
aku pon bru berjinak2..dari awal thn..bur 3~4 bln..bkn senang la.bab2 nk fine tune n bias.tapi bende bole experiment..kalu ade minat n kuderat.
aku pon bru ade 2 model ,champ5f1 and p1extreme...and still berexperiment..  |
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| ultraman_cosmo |
| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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Oriat. nanti ada unclear boleh aku tanya.
Ada yahoo msg tak... add aku... boleh aku bertanya.... hhahahah.
Aku tengah memahami circuit amp aku ne.
ultraman_cosmo@yahoo.com msg
ultra_cosmo@hotmail.com msn
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| keysersoze |
| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 3:04 pm Post subject: . |
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beb..aku ade ym.tapi kurang sgt pakai.aku bkn jenis duk dpn pc je..kekadang ade free je bru mengadap pc.
ape kate post je kat sini.pepehal senang nak review balik..
kau tgh studi amp kau punye schematic? ape amp?
kasi letak pic pun hensem gak.nanti sensenang aku post aku punye. |
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| mati besi |
| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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yo bros
before i get the tubes, can i get some input? The tone i want is distortion garang, BUT with a healthy dose of mids. Mids kalau scooped tak sedap ah. And for cleans, i dont really care since i dont play cleans that much. The distortion, think something similar to In Flames or Arch Enemy. But then again, feedback pun kalau boleh avoid, best lah. The tubes im gonna get are 5 12AX7 and 2 6L6GC.
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| browndog2woof |
| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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| mati besi wrote: | yo bros
before i get the tubes, can i get some input? The tone i want is distortion garang, BUT with a healthy dose of mids. Mids kalau scooped tak sedap ah. And for cleans, i dont really care since i dont play cleans that much. The distortion, think something similar to In Flames or Arch Enemy. But then again, feedback pun kalau boleh avoid, best lah. The tubes im gonna get are 5 12AX7 and 2 6L6GC.
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fretted bro,
phase inverter aku suggest 12at7, cleaner sebab breakup dia lambat, effect tubes pon (vibrato atau reverb tube) sama. preamp aku suggest 12ax7 sovtek kalau nak more gain. belasah 2 tubes ni pon ok, tapi drive banyak la..
aku pakai combi la bro, i'm talking about 2 gain stage, 1 12ax7 ehx dan 1 12at7 sovtek. (note: fender lama 3 12ax7 and 1 12at7, for non effect amp without tube rectifier, kalau 5 tubes, combi itu penting, pergh! letih oo letih!) ada ciri2 mid 70s (macam wah on sikit la bro). kalau ko terbalikan combi ni pon sedap gak, tapi bukan preference aku. ini untuk drive je.(sedap bagi aku la..mungkin tak bagi orang lain) aku tried both 12ax7 ehx, fizzy dan macam dah scoop tone sikit.
kalau ko mau brighter tone aku rasa jj lagi bagus..kalau nak tukar aku reccomend tukar semua, macam strings gak la..for power tubes, (ikut la yg di recommend, kalau tak kena buat biasing), ntah kenapa aku stim kat kt 66 (maybe ini demam blyes breaker jtm 45), yg ni aku prefer jj la..killer tone for its price. (again salary vs tone vs playing)..dulu aku asik guna used tubes, pergh! naya telinga aku, terus blurr..
gold pin tubes pon ada, tapi mahal la sikit. (aku pon tak pakai..) thats about it la yg aku tau sebab aku memang dah try. 12au7 sejuk sangat la, gain dan presence kurang, tapi tetap warmth.. (kalau dapat NOS cold war military standard tubes pon best! especially tapak hitam..he he he!)
bagi masalah kurang bass ni, aku rasa ko tukar filter caps kat preamp section pon ok, tapi elok ko cuba kat power section. (mfd kasi lebih) kalau overdose dia woofy. (or vise versa)
preamp tubes best ko select sendiri, power tubes aku rasa jj sesuai la bro..again, best to get the ones that suits you...good luck! happy trying!
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| Dufresne |
| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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| mati besi wrote: | yo bros
before i get the tubes, can i get some input? The tone i want is distortion garang, BUT with a healthy dose of mids. Mids kalau scooped tak sedap ah. And for cleans, i dont really care since i dont play cleans that much. The distortion, think something similar to In Flames or Arch Enemy. But then again, feedback pun kalau boleh avoid, best lah. The tubes im gonna get are 5 12AX7 and 2 6L6GC.
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Is this for ur 5150?
Try check forum 5150, esp those yg buat mod to the pwr amp section. Ade 1 jenis mod dorang buat, i forgot what its called, suppossibly quite easy to do. Changing the phase inverter to a low gain tube will change the overdrive tones dramatically, not really advisable.
Try JJ tubes. Super awesome gains & also glassy cleans. Also i think theyre kinda flat, so its very responsive to EQ, which is 1 of the disadvantages of the 5150. Kalo x dpot sound gak, try using a graphic EQ or maximizer thru the fx loop...
I think a 5150 can easily do In Flames, Arch Enemy or any Swedish metal stuff without much effort...
Unless u know how to biased pwr tubes, dont install it urself. Might as well as a tech to do it. My 2 cents...
Cheers... 
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| browndog2woof |
| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Dufresne wrote: | | mati besi wrote: | yo bros
before i get the tubes, can i get some input? The tone i want is distortion garang, BUT with a healthy dose of mids. Mids kalau scooped tak sedap ah. And for cleans, i dont really care since i dont play cleans that much. The distortion, think something similar to In Flames or Arch Enemy. But then again, feedback pun kalau boleh avoid, best lah. The tubes im gonna get are 5 12AX7 and 2 6L6GC.
any suggestions? thanks |
Is this for ur 5150?
Try check forum 5150, esp those yg buat mod to the pwr amp section. Ade 1 jenis mod dorang buat, i forgot what its called, suppossibly quite easy to do. Changing the phase inverter to a low gain tube will change the overdrive tones dramatically, not really advisable.
Try JJ tubes. Super awesome gains & also glassy cleans. Also i think theyre kinda flat, so its very responsive to EQ, which is 1 of the disadvantages of the 5150. Kalo x dpot sound gak, try using a graphic EQ or maximizer thru the fx loop...
I think a 5150 can easily do In Flames, Arch Enemy or any Swedish metal stuff without much effort...
Unless u know how to biased pwr tubes, dont install it urself. Might as well as a tech to do it. My 2 cents...
Cheers... |
fretted bros,
aggreable to this, check dulu pon bagus....nak mod tu pon bagus gak, like i did for fender hot rod deluxe from justin student website...situ aku get sag mod (pakai switch selector je, stock to mod), dia ada banyak link...board dia tak la tricky sangat. tapi 5150 ini circuit board dia square lak...pergh! my friend did try, but kerja a bit leceh la..if can get pro to do it kan best.....ko kena really trust the bugger who wants to mod for you..buat kata freddy nightmare from lim biskut, 'if you want to do things right, got to do it yourself!' ha ha ha ha! kat sini boleh apply ka?
woof!
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:50 pm Post subject: .. |
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'yo bros
before i get the tubes, can i get some input? The tone i want is distortion garang, BUT with a healthy dose of mids. Mids kalau scooped tak sedap ah. And for cleans, i dont really care since i dont play cleans that much. The distortion, think something similar to In Flames or Arch Enemy. But then again, feedback pun kalau boleh avoid, best lah. The tubes im gonna get are 5 12AX7 and 2 6L6GC. '
5 12ax7?  wow..byk tu clipping preamp..aper amp tu ?lagi ler 12ax7 hi gain tubes..6l6gc 2 biji pushpull eih..30watt ar??
ini macam punye spec senang2 je nk dapat metal tone.. |
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| mati besi |
| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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Peavey 5150 combo, which is 60w. the current tubes i have right now sounds too microphonic and a lil bit fuzzy gain, which im not really liking right now.
Thing is i dunno if i should consult a amp tech and basically have it get done by him or get tubes myself and hope for the best  , tapi takde transport leceh sikit, nak bawak amp 30kg sini sana boleh patah pinggang.
Plus 5150 combos are biased warmer than the head versions so it may not be a simple swapping of tubes, compared to the cold biased head. |
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| keysersoze |
| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:16 am Post subject: .. |
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waoo.. nice amp ler..combo eihh..
kalo ade transport ble pigi tempat nik dekat sri damansara..suruh dier
bias balik. n kalu nak adjust chatode resistor for the preamp section...ble suruh dier buat skali...
tapi kalu nak buat sindiri...tryla..nik ade jual preamp tubes,12ax7 --brand JJ and sovtek.
6L6GC tak sure .try email nik..kalu nak beli pon kene beli matched tubes.
http://www.octave-electronics.com/audio/tubes/index.shtml
ade byk choice tubes la.tapi harge..pandai2 la.. |
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| browndog2woof |
| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:24 am Post subject: |
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fretted bros,
got few friends using 5150 last time, all sold off! most of them having the same opinion which i rather not said it here! nothing personal, but a matter of taste and preference. bro dufrene idea is good if you're to get info from the 5150 forum and mod them, maybe that might help you to get the tone that you are looking for. or, look for somebody who has really good experience that can be trusted to tweak it...best of luck bro!
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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| browndog2woof wrote: | fretted bros,
got few friends using 5150 last time, all sold off! most of them having the same opinion which i rather not said it here! nothing personal, but a matter of taste and preference. bro dufrene idea is good if you're to get info from the 5150 forum and mod them, maybe that might help you to get the tone that you are looking for. or, look for somebody who has really good experience that can be trusted to tweak it...best of luck bro!
woof! |
hah..ada betol kata borwndog..tweaking bkn kerja mudah..silap2 ble hangus jari..high voltage beb tube amp.. |
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