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| IZZI |
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| soundfreak22nd wrote: | sifu2 sekalian..
macam mane nak balancekan eq kat MFX ngan eq kat amp?  |
kalau guna MFX yg ada preamp, cucuk kat FX return terus.. so akan bypass semua control pd amp tu..
kalau guna MFX yg tak ada modeling preamp, perlu guna front input dan set semua EQ pukul 12 (for basic setting).. kalau advance setting sudah tentu bergantung pd telinga dan tak tentu setting nya..
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| ultraman_cosmo |
| Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:57 am Post subject: |
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| soundfreak22nd wrote: | sifu2 sekalian..
macam mane nak balancekan eq kat MFX ngan eq kat amp? |
Ya, sebaiknya masuk return loop.
Jika sekiranya, terpaksa juga masuk depan normal input amplifier ada 4 pekara kena lebih perhatian. Tapi aku tak berapa syorkan cara cucuk trus kat depan amp ne. kecuali multieffect tak der preamp.
1. gain
- aku lebih kepada OD/dist, jika kita biarkan dua preamp berlaga ada baiknya kita kurangkan gain or distortion or drive pada multieffect. Sebab apa bila terlalu banyak gain masuk amplifier, amplifier akan mendarap gain ne bagi lagi banyak, hasilnya noise, flat respone eq, white noise, pink dan bla.
2. volume
- paling penting balance kan volume dr mfx yang nak ker amplifier. U have to consider semua patch yang nak diguna. Terlalu banyak or lemah output mfx akan menyebabkan respone amplifier kepada mfx tu tak bagus. Biasanya, try samakan volume lebih kurang antara clean preamp MFX dan bypass mod.
3. Bass
Biasanya, bila kita letak 2 preamp, bass respone akan kurang. Sebab tu bunyi dia ada high dan macam pasir jer. So ada baiknya kita bagi bass lebih kat preamp, dan boost bass lebih dari amplifier. Kekurang bass ne la yang menyebabkan kita lost headroom dan bottom.
4. high
- Biasanya bila 2 preamp berlaga, high akan bertambah, sebab frequency high ne lebih mudah diproses berbanding freq low. So ada baiknya kita try turunkan treble, n presence knob pada mfx dan juga dekat amp.
DAN middle frequency, aku serahkan kepada korang... hehheheh
a bit trick.
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| soundfreak22nd |
| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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thanks..
amp kat bilik ni 10 watt je, so takde la function return loop tu smue..hehehe.. so aku connect direct je..
slalu aku blast je volume full kat mfx, pastu eq kat mfx setting macam pakai direct amp.. gain kat amp slalu set rendah je, coz gain kat mfx dah tinggi.. pastu tinggal nak adjust sket eq sket kat amp kcik aku ni.. hehe.. kalo jamm pakai amp besa pon aku buat camni..
boleh ke buat camni? hehehe...  |
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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boleh asalkan ko bahagia dgn soundnya..
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| ultraman_cosmo |
| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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| soundfreak22nd wrote: | thanks..
amp kat bilik ni 10 watt je, so takde la function return loop tu smue..hehehe.. so aku connect direct je..
slalu aku blast je volume full kat mfx, pastu eq kat mfx setting macam pakai direct amp.. gain kat amp slalu set rendah je, coz gain kat mfx dah tinggi.. pastu tinggal nak adjust sket eq sket kat amp kcik aku ni.. hehe.. kalo jamm pakai amp besa pon aku buat camni..
boleh ke buat camni? hehehe... |
Pada pendapat aku la... sebenarnya banyak problem bila biasa setting kat amp kecik dengan speaker 8inch dan juga bila kita gi tempat jam dengan speaker 12inch. Tu antara problem yang selalu aku dapat dulu. Sebab respone speaker kecik berbanding yang besar asalah berbeza. Biasanya setting aku akan a bit lebih bassy kat speaker besar sebab aku tak perasan ada frequency bass terlebih yang tak dikekuarkan oleh speaker kecik.
tapi klo keadah ko tu, hasikan bunyi terbaik. Aku tak akan mempertikaikannya sebab tak kisah la nak plug in cam mana asalkan bunyi yang kuar kita puas hati.
Bebenda Full range PA dan sebagainya just a guide line jer.
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| soundfreak22nd |
| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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bro izzi, how bout digitech RP350?
dah try? |
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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belum try... tgk review mcm best sebab guna audio DNA2. pegi try la
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| davidlow7 |
| Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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bro sekalian...
i at last dah beli second hand GT6..
memang satisfied ngan condition .. harga pun best....
skarang je nak pening kepala buat settings sikit...
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 11:29 am Post subject: |
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setting mmg memeningkan pada permulaan. SABAR dan teruskan Study betul2 setiap feature.
sampai satu masa nanti ko dah ada sound dalam kepala then tahu mcmana nak dapatkan sound tu.. itu baru la ultimate!
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| davidlow7 |
| Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 3:24 am Post subject: |
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i pun fikir gitu
cannot give up.. mesti terus cari sound.. tapi skarang betul betul nak refer to manual semua....
hopefully i dapat cari sound...
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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refer manual dan join mana2 forum yg diskus pasal GT-8. Selalunya mereka byk trick.. 
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| poundcake |
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Izzi, kalo ko beli supermodel, kasi aku pinjam... tapi jgn yg gnx3000, beli la yg gnx3 boleh pakai punya, basic tu.... 
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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kalau aku beli supermodel gnx3, mcmana nak pakai kat gnx3000 aku.
weh bro, ko dah try behringer MIC200? pakai la dgn gnx3 ko tu.. aku tgh kumpul duit nak angkat satu..
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| ultraman_cosmo |
| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | weh bro, ko dah try behringer MIC200? pakai la dgn gnx3 ko tu.. aku tgh kumpul duit nak angkat satu.. |
Ne buat aku jelous ne...
Encik Izzi, boleh terangkan skit aper kegunaan itu mic200 kepada multieffect. Maybe boleh dikongsikan dengan user lain.
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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Boleh gunakan ini untuk warmkan digital sound. Zoom pun dah apply teknologi mcm ni dlm product G7 dan G9 mereka. Aku ada try Zoom G7 semalam dan mmg bunyi character tube tu ada dengar. So aku yakin kalau aku guna BEHRINGER MIC200 ni dgn GNX aku, sound dia akan lebih dinamic dan less sterile. (pd aku teknologi preamp Digitech jauh lagi mantap dr Zoom punya preamp..hihihi).
Aku cadangkan chainnya mcm ni:
Kalau guna full tube amp
Guitar -> MIC200 ->Multifx with preamp module-> Tube amp RETURN Loop
kalau guna Solid State amp
Guitar -> Multifx with preamp module-> Behringer MIC200 -> Solid State amp RETURN Loop.
Kalau normal multifx
Guitar -> Multifx-> Behringer MIC200 -> amp INPUT
aku belum try lagi.. sapa yg ada duit banyak tu boleh la beli dan try dulu pastu review kat sini.
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