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| IZZI |
 Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:41 am Post subject: |
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good job Zid!
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| deadzid |
| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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heheh biasa la.. minat aku ni ikut musim jugak... dulu musim multiefx, pastu single analog pedals.. pastu DIY / mod pedals... skarang ni tgh tune home-recording pulak... huhu.. it never ends...
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| Mad Souls |
| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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haha..so now deadzid dah jadi home recording specialist/consultant..huhu..caya la.. 
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| deadzid |
| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Mad Souls wrote: | | haha..so now deadzid dah jadi home recording specialist/consultant..huhu..caya la.. |
hehe tapi ko lagi advance dari aku...
ko dah experience semua tu...
dua tahun kemudian baru aku start berminat... hehehh
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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| deadzid wrote: | | heheh biasa la.. minat aku ni ikut musim jugak... dulu musim multiefx, pastu single analog pedals.. pastu DIY / mod pedals... skarang ni tgh tune home-recording pulak... huhu.. it never ends... |
nasib baik ko bukan kaki pep zid.. kalau ko kaki pep, tercemar lah i-bands ni dgn article How-to dari ko..
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| Otaizam |
| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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well....
mungkin aku ni outdated thinking sikit.... kalau just untuk sendiri pakai,,, record just untuk lebih kurang dengar balik apa yang kita main... some biasa2 punya soundcard pun dah okay....
aku guna just built in sound card, cucuk direct cable 1/8 punya jack kat mic input, and thats it. tak de pulak masalah latency.. dah 2 mother board aku pakai... okay....
then, ada orang kata kalau just direct input macam tu sound akan muddy ke, distort ke... my solution is, just adjust mic input punye level tu rendah je, tak payah full blast.
Dulu pernah terpikir nak beli AUdio input la.. DI Box la... toneport la.. whatever la.... last last end up ngan basic material yang aku dah ada.... the rest: Let my multiple effect do the work... kalau recording, let the software do the work.
Even, aku selalu practice main gitar sekali dengan aku main mp3 song kat pc... level kan bunyik kat mixer tu, then guna headphone, thats it... jem la aku sorang2 dalam bilik... lagi pun bedroom player macam aku ni berapa kuat la sangat aku leh pasang,,,, so AMp aku dah berabuk... berapa bulan dah tak guna..... nak tolak pulak sayang.
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| kopisecheywan |
| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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aku baru sgt try record merecord nie..
smlm baru try donlod guitar rig 2..
sronok jugak eh bnde nie..
huhu
lame gak la dok depan pc dan cube cube..
so aku record pki bnde tu la..yg 'tape deck' kot ape name die tu ntah..
aku pki hentam ikut logik je..takde theory yg btol ke hape..
pas da record dari situ..
bukak dkat acid pro n drag aje file record tuh..
huhu..
pastu dah..
pastu bile nak multi layer..
aku play lagu dkat acid pro tu..
n main dkat guitar rig..save
pastu drag..
tapi leceh sbb nak kne susun blk so tak lari tempo la..
aku direct aje cucuk..
DI box la tone port tu sume..tak pki..
sbb takde duit..
kalu tak berminat jugak la..
main suke2..
n record pon suke2..
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| kopisecheywan |
| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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eh kejap..
ke mmg care gune guitar rig mcm tu?
sy budak baru sgt belajar..
kalu salah tolong tunjukkan..
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| deadzid |
| Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:03 am Post subject: |
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| IZZI wrote: | | nasib baik ko bukan kaki pep zid.. kalau ko kaki pep, tercemar lah i-bands ni dgn article How-to dari ko.. |
weh wan.. "kaki pep" tu hape? aku baru bercadang nak buat topic "tips n trick", skali ko dah sound mcm tu, tak jadi la buat hehehe...
Otaizam:
actually dulu (since 1999) aku mmg pakai cara yg ko mention tu... tapi aku cucuk kat line-in (instead of mic input)... in fact, demo cd band Crimson Fall aku dulu pakai cara ni... kaedah ni mmg takde latency sbb kita mmg tak pakai apa2 plugins utk bagi efx pada sound guitar kita secara real-time... in fact, aku rasa dulu takde menatang2 VST la, isu lantency la, apa lancau semua ni... nak efx ke, distortion ke, semua datang dlm bentuk hardware (multiefx, pedals, etc).. kalau nak add efx (guna software) pon just after record / masa mixing je.. bukan real-time.
Skarang ni dah mcm2 plugins ada, boleh process real-time, tak payah pakai hardware dah, semua dlm desktop / notebook... that's why nak kena ada audio interface with low latency all that shit so that boleh monitor apa yg kita main thru plugins tu secara real-time...
kopisecheywan:
takpe, blajar slow2, pelan2 kayuh... nanti dah maju skit, mesti ko rasa mcm nak buat lagu sendiri la.. time tu baru la ko teruja nak explore benda2 lain pulak huhuhu.. in the end, ko akan terbeli gak audio interface sejibik hehehhe..
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| kopisecheywan |
| Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="deadzid"] | IZZI wrote: |
kopisecheywan:
takpe, blajar slow2, pelan2 kayuh... nanti dah maju skit, mesti ko rasa mcm nak buat lagu sendiri la.. time tu baru la ko teruja nak explore benda2 lain pulak huhuhu.. in the end, ko akan terbeli gak audio interface sejibik hehehhe.. |
aa..
skrg pon dah terase dah nak cube cube..
bahye nih.. 
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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| deadzid wrote: | | IZZI wrote: | | nasib baik ko bukan kaki pep zid.. kalau ko kaki pep, tercemar lah i-bands ni dgn article How-to dari ko.. |
weh wan.. "kaki pep" tu hape? aku baru bercadang nak buat topic "tips n trick", skali ko dah sound mcm tu, tak jadi la buat hehehe...
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Maksud aku, nasib baik ko ni kaki record, kaki Zoom, kaki DIY.. so bila ko buat tulis advice ke, tips n tricks ke, pasal bende yg ko kaki tu, mmg la bagus. Nasib baik ko bukan 'kaki pep'.. hahahhahahahaha...
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| 62jaguar |
| Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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| IZZI wrote: | | deadzid wrote: | | IZZI wrote: | | nasib baik ko bukan kaki pep zid.. kalau ko kaki pep, tercemar lah i-bands ni dgn article How-to dari ko.. |
weh wan.. "kaki pep" tu hape? aku baru bercadang nak buat topic "tips n trick", skali ko dah sound mcm tu, tak jadi la buat hehehe...
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Maksud aku, nasib baik ko ni kaki record, kaki Zoom, kaki DIY.. so bila ko buat tulis advice ke, tips n tricks ke, pasal bende yg ko kaki tu, mmg la bagus. Nasib baik ko bukan 'kaki pep'.. hahahhahahahaha...
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| RikiRaikonnen |
| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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Deadzid & friends,
Actually dah lama terbengkalai project "cucuk gitar kat PC" pasal hari tu masa beli PC baru tambah sini tambah sana sampai terpakai budget "cucuk gitar kat PC".. sekarang ni nak hidupkan balik projek aku ni.. lepas baca balik penerangan ko, aku zoom into 2 possibilities:
1) Beli soundcard Soundblaster X-fi music (aku rasa support ASIO2) dan aku pakai Guitar Rig 2 & Amplitube. Tapi research punya research tak dapat jawapan yang convincing.. ada kata OK ada kata latency still a problem... rega SB X-Fi tu pun dalam RM250.. tapi advantagenya pada aku.. since aku pun kaki game & dengor lagu kat PC.. sedap la skit sound daripada pakai built-in soundcard realtek ni.. Crysis & Bioshock syok ooo...
2) Beli Toneport GX.. sale kat CK skang RM215 je.. bole pakai Line6 own Gearbox, GR2 & Amplitube.. tapi baca punya baca.. leceh pasal tak boleh pakai PC speaker (via built in soundcard).. takkan nak pakai headphone , cucuk cabut PC speaker kejap kat Toneport bila main gitar & kejap kat built-in soundcard bila main game (dah tak praktikal) or beli another set of active speaker utk cucuk kat toneport tu direct.. tu dah kena tambah modal. Camna ko setup ko punya UX2 tu?? Possible tak kalau line out tomeport tu masuk kat line in built-in soundcard.. supaya keluar bunyi kat speaker PC?
BTW aku bukan nak buat recording pun, cuma nak pakai GR2 & amplitube je.. main gitar via PC.. since aku punya effect Spider 2 very limited and i'm just a bedroom player..
Nasihat & jawapan korang memang2 sangat aku sanjungi.. kalau bole bagi advice sebelum sale CK music abis till the end of december... TQ |
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| deadzid |
| Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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hmmm susah gak... kalau nk pki utk both application (game + guitar)... actually aku pnya TonePort tu aku dgr thru headphones je... mmg tak pakai speaker hehehe...
| Quote: | | Possible tak kalau line out tomeport tu masuk kat line in built-in soundcard.. supaya keluar bunyi kat speaker PC? |
ni mmg impossible la (kalau tak salah aku)... sbb once ko cucuk TonePort ke usb port PC ko, dia akan disabled terus your buit-in soundcard... so that the TonePort will be your main soundcard now...
but if u insist nk pakai PC speaker, ko bleh beli 1/8" to 1/4" adaptor so that plug 1/8" dr speaker tu bleh masuk ke TonePort punya output line / headphone tu...
sbb TonePort GX ada 1 je input dan 1 output... dan satu usb port, sempoi giler... yg bestnye dia datang skali dgn software GearBox! once aku try out this software, semua software guitar lain (Guitar Rig / Amplitube) aku tolak tepi! huhuhu...
ini suggestion aku yg memang bukan kaki game la hahaha.. better tanya opinion org lain pulak heheh....
tapi sale CK Music ni memang murah giler! next week aku nak shopping, sapa nak ikut?! huhuhu.... sambar je TonePort GX tu bro! heheh
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| RikiRaikonnen |
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Zid.. actually aku dah beli Toneport GX 2 hari lepas.. even sebelum ko jawab aku punya inquiry.. tak sabar punya pasal.. yang best partnya.. soundcard pun aku beli gak.. tapi bukan x-fi la.. aku beli audigy je. Tapi reason aku beli audigy tu pong pasal built-in soundcard aku mmg ada problem - kadang2 tak detect speaker..
tapi memang best.. aku dah try a few config.. resultnya
1) TP GX line out --> headphone : sound paling best
2) TP GX line out --> PC SB audigy line in utk sound keluar kat Speaker PC (sambung pakai 1/8" jack) : sound OK gak
3) TP GX line out --> CD/mp3 In Spider II : Sound OK la tapi better lagi sound ikut config 2
4) TP GX line out --> Guitar In Spider II : sound hancusss..
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1) Gearbox - sah2 la best.. native product.. tak rasa latency pun
2) Guitar Rig 3 - OK gak tapi ada skit latency, terasa bila compare dgn gearbox
3) Amplitube 2 - tak sempat nak test, program hang.. tapi sebelum dia hang tu dapat dgr sound OK la.. latency macam GR3
Aku tak de adjust apa2 configuration on soundcard/XP pon. Cucuk2 je on.. cuma GR3 & Amplitube tu kena choose TP GX Asio as input.. Aku rasa default soundcard aku still audigy even after aku install TP GX punya driver . TP GX aku bli rega RM215 je sempena sale CK Music sampai hujung bulan.. |
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