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Otaizam
PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:39 pm    Post subject: bunyik tak balance Reply with quote



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Allo geng, aku ada satu masalah ni...

member aku baru bagi kat aku dia punya stratocaster untuk aku tolong service sikit2 yang mana aku leh buat. Then, pickup bridge dan neck dia dah tukar humbucker. Senang cerita its not standard pickup anymore. Sekarang dia dah jadi H-S-H pick up. Bridge pickup dia ada masalah wayar putus.

So aku dah solder balik wayar yang putus tu. dan cuci keladak kat pot ngan selector switch, so dah hidup dah.

Aku dah adjust ketinggian pickup bagi balance bila kita select switch tu ke neck aje, middle aje atau bridge aje.

Tapi masalahnye bila aku select switch tu ke neck and middle atau bridge and middle, bunyik dia akan kurang, ibarat certain range of sound dah hilang. Mcam dah kurang middle dan low range punya sound. Aku dah check connectivity semua intact. Cuma aku tak guna tester untuk check voltage dia....

Tolong bagi pendapat macam mana nak selesaikan masalah ni.

Thank you in advance
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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tak de jawapan.... hmmm.. macam mana nak buat ek?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Otaizam wrote:
tak de jawapan.... hmmm.. macam mana nak buat ek?


try private msg guru kita ultraman cosmo..sure dia tau punya...or mr browndog ke..
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Otaizam
PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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thanks bro... i will
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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OK. perlukan information utk beberapa pekara...

1. setiap pickup nyer ada berapa wire.
- cam 2 conductor or cth 4 conductor macam duncan n dimarzio.
- aper jenis wiring utk setiap pickup tu. pickup cam 4 konductor dimario ada 2 jenis wiring, parelel and series.

2. aper jenis wiring
- ada guitar
- ada guitar pos1 = neck, pos2 = neck + middle and so on.
- ada guitar pos1 = neck, pos2 = half neck + middle n so on.

Aku syorkan
1. rewiring balik ikut mana mana schematic berkaitan kat duncan site
2. Try discconect middle pickup check switching ok ker tak. maksudnya pada position 2 dan 4 adalah bunyi bridge sahaja or neck sahaja
3. Split wire utk middle pickup, contohnya kalo dia ada 2 wire merah dan putih. solder merah pada tempat wire putih dan solder putih pada tempat wire merah.
4. maybe ne masalah pickup nyer phase out.
5 check balik switch nyer logik. mean pada kedudukan 2 or 4 aper wire dia connect sebenarnya.
6. disconnect semua wire pickup dari switch. Guna manual clip dengan sepit buaya utk setiap satu pickup dan combinasinya. ne nak check maybe the problem berada kat switching tadi.


Nice day... sorry aku tak perasan title ne... bz sangat, project dah masuk... hahhaah.
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browndog2woof
PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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sorry, aku pon tak perasan la zam...

cosmo punya advice betul tu. aku boleh bagi suggestion simple je, problem yg memang jelas on strat bila tukar humbuckers.. kalau nak senang kerja pakai la jap (ibanez 5 way switch) masaalah utama..

1) power pickup dan eq dah terlebih secara individu (tak balance)
2) polarity/phase (wiring)
3) setup/balancing neck dan bridge
4) pickup rosak (putus coil sebelah atau dua2 sekali)

it's normal that neck kena low output, sebab vibrate dia overdose kat situ, bridge kena high output sebab dia opposite dengan neck, vibrate kurang. pickups ada berbeza dari segi power (henries), treble, mid dan bass (use pickup chart as reference). kalau selection dah salah, hmmm, hampeh la bro.

sebab tu banyak orang pakai SSH, senang nak set. kalau tak, bila pickup cavity tak cukup dalam, setup pon merapu! switch ibanez (plastic) tu, ko boleh adjust phase dan polarity on board the switch tu sendiri, at least dia simplified cara nak mengatasi masalah tu.

aku advise ko check henries dia dulu, lepastu check chart dia kalau possible (sini ada treble, mid dan bass level). kalau tak balance swap bridge to neck atau vice versa. follow advice pasal power bila ko check henries tu. pickup tu ko check colour code dia ikut jenama, ia mungkin tak sama (kalau tak, the pickup will phased out) . check coil tap tu dan pastikan humbucker tu berfungsi sempurna, takut kalau2 sebelah je hidup.

follow step2 ni. mungkin dapat membantu...

woof!
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IZZI
PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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cuba solder middle pickup t dugn wiring terbalik.. power to ground, ground to power...
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Otaizam
PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Guys...


I took Ur advice..... now its working.... Just tukar wiring position. wayar hijau tukar ke mid selector and the red wire to the volume pot....

It really working, then try resolder yang aku rasa was2 tu.... bagi kuat sikit solder dia....

Sekarang baru la dapat sound strat..... perghhh.... meraung!!!!! twank twank twank..... clean sound dia.......

Thanks guys.....
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