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universal_man
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Ridzi wrote:
universal_man wrote:
single pickup x leh men metal ka? aku pny strat sku tinggikan pickup,bny ok la gak drpd aku rndhkan pickup


boleh...tapi tak best.... tak ganaz bunyi dia.... Twisted Evil


kalo Start yg single pickup ditukarkan kpd double coil pickup leh?? heheh
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Ridzi
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Itu dah humbucker bai... cuma size aje ikut single coil housing.... Razz

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universal_man
PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Ridzi wrote:
Itu dah humbucker bai... cuma size aje ikut single coil housing.... Razz

/ridzi

soru jika anda pening pala sbb pertanyaan sy...coz i dont get elctrc gtr lesson properly,men sndr2 ja...heheh...

leh gtau x pa tu gumbucker...? pnh dgr,tp x tau
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Ridzi
PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Wiki-wiki about humbuckers... Silalah baca untuk informasi semua Smile

This first "humbucker" or humbucking pickup was the so-called PAF (literally "Patent Applied For") invented by Seth Lover, a Gibson employee, in the 1950s. Because of this, and because of its use on the Gibson Les Paul guitar, the humbucker is strongly associated with Gibson, although humbuckers have been used in many different guitar designs by many different manufacturers.

Humbuckers are also known as dual-coil, double-coil, or hum-canceling pickups. Rickenbacker offered dual coil pickups arranged in a humbucking pattern beginning in late 1953 but dropped the design in 1954 due to the perceived distorted sound. The Gibson Les Paul was the first guitar to use humbuckers in substantial production, but since then, even some models of Fender Stratocasters and Telecasters, traditionally fitted with single-coil pickups, are factory-equipped with humbuckers.

Stratocasters fitted with one humbucker in the bridge position, resulting in a pickup configuration noted as H-S-S (starting at bridge pickup: H for humbucker, S for single coil) is referred to as "Fat Strats", because of the "fatter", "rounder" tone offered by the humbucker pickup.

How humbuckers work

In any magnetic pickup, a vibrating soft-magnetic guitar string induces an alternating voltage in its coil(s). However, magnetic coils also make excellent antennas and are therefore sensitive to electromagnetic interference caused by mains wiring (mains hum) and electrical appliances like transformers, motors and computer screens. Guitar pickups pick up this noise, which can be quite audible, sounding like a constant hum or buzz.

A humbucker has two coils with opposing windings and polarities. The string motion induces current in both coils in the same direction. Electromagnetic interference, on the other hand, induces current in opposing directions in each coil because of the reversed winding and polarity. When the signals from both pickups are summed together, the noise is cancelled due to destructive interference, while the actual signal is increased due to constructive interference, thus dramatically improving the signal-to-noise ratio. This technique is called common-mode rejection by electrical engineers, and is also used in balanced lines in audio recording.


Image above - Humbuckers on a Gibson Invader.

Using two coils also changes the tone of the pickup. The humbucker pickup produces a "warm" and "fat" tone that has been popularly associated with Les Pauls and SGs, in contrast to the "bright" or "clear" tone of the single coil pickups that are typically used on Fender guitars such as the Stratocaster and Telecaster.

It is a common misconception that because the coils are at slightly different positions along the string some of the higher-frequency harmonics are diminished or cancelled out, thus producing this warmer sound.[citation needed] The main reason humbuckers sound different is because two coils resonate at different frequencies causing a broad resonant peak in frequency response, a characteristic of the original Gibson humbuckers, and because any two pickups wired in series will attenuate some of the higher frequencies due to the summed impedance.[citation needed]

Usually, those who prefer the brighter sound of single-coil pickups had to simply live with the extra hum and buzz in order to get the tone they prefer, although technologies designed to preserve the tones exist.

Alternative humbucker designs
A)Stacked humbuckers

Solid body guitars such as Fender Stratocasters usually feature cavities only for single-coil pickups. Installing full-sized humbuckers requires additional routing of the woodwork and cutting of the pickguard (if the instrument has a pickguard). If the process is not carefully done, the instrument's body and pickguard may be damaged and possibly affecting the tone produced by the body. This is unacceptable, especially for expensive vintage guitars where it is vital to preserve cosmetic appearance. As a result, many pickup manufacturers now produce humbucking pickups compacted into the size of a single coil, accomplished by vertically "stacking" the coils instead of placing them side-by-side as in a regular humbucker. Stacked humbuckers sound similar to, but not exactly like, regular humbuckers, and some players prefer this tone.

Although the Fender Stratocaster-style single coil is by far the most frequently found pickup in a single coil size, humbuckers are available for most single-coil guitars. Fender produces several variations in their Telecaster, Jaguar, Jazzmaster, and Mustang guitars.

B) Coil splits

Some guitars which have humbucker pickups feature coil splits, which allow the humbucker pickups to act as "pseudo-single" coils. The electrical circuit of the pickup is reduced to that of a true single coil while the magnetic circuit retains its original closed loop configuration. Usually, this feature is activated using a switch on the tone potentiometer. Coil split turns on when potentiometer is pulled out and reverts back off when it is pushed in. The resultant single coil sound is not the same as a Fender single coil sound because the poles of the coil are made of steel and not of alnico, and the coil turns are significantly less than a Fender pickup (5,000 as distinct to 8,000 - this can vary depending on the type and brand of the humbucker).

Note: this is often wrongly referred to as "coil taps". Coil taps are more commonly found on single coil pickups, and involve an extra hook-up wire being included during the manufacture of the pickup so the guitarist can choose to have all the windings of the pickup included in the circuit, for a fatter, higher output sound; or some of the windings in use and some "tapped off" for a brighter, lower output, cleaner sound.

Hope this has helped.. Wink

MAJULAH METAL UNTUK NEGARA

Saya yang menurut perintah,

/ridzi
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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smlm pas post reply trus sy msk wikipedia...so dh bc dh...hahahha....kiranya strat x leh msk humbucker ka?

oh ya,metal x kan maju...sy bukan nk bangkang metal,sy pon sokong gak metal,tp genre metal mmg x leh jd top....heheh Smile
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Ridzi
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^ Hmmm depends on apa maksud top bagi ko... To me Metal as a genre, is the most succesful genre on earth to date.. Lagu2 pop, dance dan sebagainya memang berkumandang di radio, tapi lepas 3 bulan usually these songs just dissappear into this air replaced by new ones. Hence the name "pop".

Walaupun takde airplay, and despite the countless obstacles in this country, Metal - is alive and well. So thats how i see the "kemajuan" of metal here in this country. But I would never want to put Metal down on to the same low level of pop music, i would rather let it stay in the underground, where it actually is home to and that is where it blossoms and shines!!

Tak caya? Tengok berapa ramai orang dtg tengok Kreator, tengok berapa ramai yang pegi tengok Napalm Death itu hari.. (aku tak pegi.. tapi Daniel went and told me it was jam packed) sampai aku baca dalam Metro rupanya on the same day ada Konsert Rock Kapak somewhare, and only about a handful of people went.

Is Metal succesful in this country? From my perpective, I would say - yeah!!!

Tapi punk is dead la kan..?? Laughing j/k

Sorry for being off topic and sorry to Omar for Hijacking your thread... Very Happy

/ridzi
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smlm pas post reply trus sy msk wikipedia...so dh bc dh...hahahha....kiranya strat x leh msk humbucker ka?


strat boleh masuk humbucker, tak de masalah... ada strat yang dah equipped dgn humbucker drp kilang lagi, ada yang orang modified dari singe fix masuk humbucker.. macam2 la..
alsmost semua guitar boleh pakai singe/humbucker.. ikut preference la.. singe coil pickup bunyi dia macam tu, humbucker bunyi dia macam ni.. so ikut taste.. selalunya humbucker bunyi dia "berat" sikit, or darker.. tapi sound single coil tu ada kesedapan tersendiri jugak... technically humbucker tu senyap sikit drp single.. kerana design dia hum-cancelling...
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Ridzi
PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Personally I like singlecoils when i need clean guitar, or maybe slightly overdriven sound, the tone is usually is twangy in Strats, more so in Teles.

But for that fat, heavy, crunchy, chunky, djent! djent!*, humbuckers do the job for me Very Happy

/ridzi

*-the sound of a guitar in full blown METAL mode...Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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anyone tried these? humbucker that fits in single coil size?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Ridzi wrote:
^ Hmmm depends on apa maksud top bagi ko... To me Metal as a genre, is the most succesful genre on earth to date.. Lagu2 pop, dance dan sebagainya memang berkumandang di radio, tapi lepas 3 bulan usually these songs just dissappear into this air replaced by new ones. Hence the name "pop".

Walaupun takde airplay, and despite the countless obstacles in this country, Metal - is alive and well. So thats how i see the "kemajuan" of metal here in this country. But I would never want to put Metal down on to the same low level of pop music, i would rather let it stay in the underground, where it actually is home to and that is where it blossoms and shines!!

Tak caya? Tengok berapa ramai orang dtg tengok Kreator, tengok berapa ramai yang pegi tengok Napalm Death itu hari.. (aku tak pegi.. tapi Daniel went and told me it was jam packed) sampai aku baca dalam Metro rupanya on the same day ada Konsert Rock Kapak somewhare, and only about a handful of people went.

Is Metal succesful in this country? From my perpective, I would say - yeah!!!

Tapi punk is dead la kan..?? Laughing j/k

Sorry for being off topic and sorry to Omar for Hijacking your thread... Very Happy

/ridzi

aku sokong....!! YEAH...!!!

dh brp byk dh producer hasilkan penyanyi2 pop yg msk tv n radio,tp nk kekal sebulan pon pyh. begitu juga dgn band2 rock kapak yg kuaq 1 album pstu sunyi...

oh ya,Napalm Death pny genre pa ya?? aku x pnh try dgr pn lagu depa... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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universal_man wrote:


oh ya,Napalm Death pny genre pa ya?? aku x pnh try dgr pn lagu depa... Rolling Eyes



Die orang kira genre joget hybrid keroncong with a little element of kuda kepang.

Kalau tak caya tengok ni

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzmXQY0l5Xs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIRUzqHTNh8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJS76JZbP1s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sWbO_iEFJU

dan banyak lagi.
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Macam sial....Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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okta wrote:
universal_man wrote:


oh ya,Napalm Death pny genre pa ya?? aku x pnh try dgr pn lagu depa... Rolling Eyes



Die orang kira genre joget hybrid keroncong with a little element of kuda kepang.

Kalau tak caya tengok ni

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzmXQY0l5Xs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIRUzqHTNh8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJS76JZbP1s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sWbO_iEFJU

dan banyak lagi.


eh,btl la ckp ko.... Surprised
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heheh.. Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEGdsJ8-OV0

Napalm Death's performance of Nazi Punks f**k Off in KL
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