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| tomei |
 Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:04 pm Post subject: zoom g2.1u dan b2.1u, recording and usd interface ability |
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Askum and halo,
I wonder if someone have use this 2 item for recording or as a usb guitar/bass interface?
Im using creative soundblaster live 16bit with kxDrive, check Kohoth songs in ibands, recorded using the same method. Im satisfy with the products produced, but i have a preAmp pbolem and instability input when i use 1/4inch jack converter to my soundcard.
Therefor, im lookin for a usb or firewire mixer, lets say Alesis Firemix 12. I cant bare the price. Using usb guitar interface like toneport and such, i have a little doubt, can them produce analog sound?
I go for my third option, get the gnx3 or gnx3000 or podxt or zoomG9, the price is no where near my budget..so i go for a B2.1U.
I havent got the item yet, tapi tertanya2 laa, Ok ke B21U ni kalo nak wat rekoding?hermmm?
So, ada sape2 yang tau and could share some experience, i would be most thanked and welcome. I never expect a studio quality recording, just a clear proper for my bandmates to practise.
Thanks alot man!
U guys the best
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| Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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i can safely say, that g2.1u recorded stuff is just fine. u can ask deadzid why..
but base on my experience.. time and time again, its not what equipment u use. the basic is, the ear..
i heard some even uses behringer gdi for preamp and just some modeling software like amplitude 2, and walla.. blasted everyone away..
and heard also some uses podXT, v-amp, and all those super fly gadget and still it sounded like sh*t..
unless ur intention is to be a super producer with a big recording studio.. g2.1u will be just fine..
its the ear that matter.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:28 am Post subject: |
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whoaaa..thanks mate!really useful explanation.
Sure rite, the ear really matter, just like man behind the stering.
Hope more people could share their experience and if possible include the url sample sound.
Thanks
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| deadzid |
| Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:05 pm Post subject: Re: zoom g2.1u dan b2.1u, recording and usd interface abilit |
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| tomei wrote: | | Therefor, im lookin for a usb or firewire mixer, lets say Alesis Firemix 12. I cant bare the price. Using usb guitar interface like toneport and such, i have a little doubt, can them produce analog sound? |
hmmm kalau pakai Zoom tu bleh dpt analog sound ke? aku rasa sound dia lebih digital compare to Toneport... actually how do u define that "digital" sound? aku mmg buta tone, tak dpt beza bunyi digital / analog.. bagi aku lebih kurang je (actually aku lebih prefer digital sound heheh)...
Aku pernah rekod guitar using Zoom G2.1u... sound dia? huhuhu sedih jugak la, x dpt sound yg bagus utk recording quality... cabinet miking simulation dia x dpt bantu.. cannot go! hahah.. that's why at that time aku prefer pakai Behringer GDI21 / Tech21 SansAmp GT2...
if u insists on using digital stuff for recording, i'd rekemen TonePort.. ada mcm2 model: GX, UX1, UX2, KB37, UX8... pilih je ikut budget! software Gearbox dia mmg very helpful utk produce top notch studio quality sound...
sorry freqzz... aku dah x jadi duta Zoom dah la ni.. hahah main Line 6 pulak dah! huhuu.... aku pakai Zoom dulu sbb xde duit nak pakai Line 6 heheh...! tapi aku tak condemn Zoom, aku masih setia pakai G2.1u utk jamming / live session, tapi utk recording mmg aku tolak tepi la, banyak option lain...
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| Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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owh pulak.
ehehe..
aku penah rekod pk zoom yg murah tu dulu. boleh tahan gak, ya la.. u can never emulate mesa, marshall.. but again, for bedroom musician like me. ok dah.
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| tomei |
| Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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whoaa bro ZId thanks for the info, last time jupe kat shalam time ko tolak digitech chorus ke sorang bdk kuantan tu.That time, bently tak masuk lg dgtech!
My experience lak,
Aku penah rekod guna SBlive sbg interface, amp modeling and efect guna Zoom505II. MMg tak boleh blah, lgpun ade prob ngan connection using 1/4in converter to the sound card. Lepas tu aku try powered the efect using Marshall amp..lg teruk jadinya.Tak tau laa kalo setting aku yg salah ke apa.. 
The best products, bila guna ME30, guna headphone out, sound stereo. Kawan aku wat rekoding utk band Kohoth dan bnyk lg laa.. guna setup yg sama, SBlive + kxdrive, me30, monitor HIFI je tp bagus, bole pukul behringer.
So, aku terbeli roland microcube, bila try guna microcube, sound lg bagus. Clear dan kurang loss. Tapi takde option..
Lately, aku try guna g2 kawan aku, impressed, tapi stil ade loss, masih lg sangsi pada 1/4in jack converter tuh kadang2 jd left side je..(aku dah try 6 biji converter).
So i go for USB INterface divice..macam B2.1u, bass multiefx + usb. Bkn pe bro Zid, tapi nak beli toneport tuh..iskkk,ntah laa..dpt satu mende je(my narrow minded thought nih), thats y prefer multiEfx with usb or Mixer with USB.Behringer gdi ngan sansampG2, mmg bole bg analog sound pada amp. takpenah try for rekording, tp utk playing mmg elok.
Digital ke tak, aku tak sure jgk bila dah almost perfect, tapi kalo digital sound yg teruk2 tuh, mmg obvious. Macam dgr mp3 low bandwt, ade bunyi..bunyi cam karen2 kot?hahahahahah..aku pun taktau nak xplain.
Dari segi latency dia macam mana?from my experience, sound yg tak best bole adjust jd best, tp fizikal abiliti tu mmg takleh watpe dah..huhuu.Penah tak sape2 guna g2.1u ke b2.1u ke sbg interface utk main guna guitar software?
Penah dgr tak trning jarak jauh guna Cubase?kwn aku penah cerita...bole live jamm sama2 kalo internet speed ok.
Thanks aloth sb contribute. 
U guys no 1
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| Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Fofular gak Gdi 21 ni...xsia2 aku beli..hehehehe. |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Deck wrote: | | Fofular gak Gdi 21 ni...xsia2 aku beli..hehehehe. |
Haaaa!!betul2, macam sansampG2 je, dia tiru kot?
Tanak jual?aku beli RM40
hahhahah
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| Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:09 am Post subject: |
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setau aku ME30 takder AMP MODELING... (betul ker??)
Aku rase ko ader prob ngan Amp & cabinet modeling setting la..
g2 aku tak test lagi...
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| Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:45 am Post subject: |
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If you wanna get good amp simulation get a Line6
ramai orang dah pakai untuk recording album or home recording. Unless u wanna experiment with other stuff.
tak payah pikir banyak technical. Concentrate buat lagu.  |
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| Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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| tomei wrote: | | whoaa bro ZId thanks for the info, last time jupe kat shalam time ko tolak digitech chorus ke sorang bdk kuantan tu.That time, bently tak masuk lg dgtech! |
oo hang ke yg aku pass Digitech Multi-Chorus tu? heheh... by the way, Digitech X-series pedals ada cabinet simulation feature (aku rasa aku ada explain kat ko ari tu)... feature ni sangat bagus kalau ko nak buat recording dgn menggunakan analog distortion pedals (metal-zone, ds-1, etc)
ni ada sample track aku record with Zoom Tri-Metal (analog distortion pedal) combine with Digitech CIT cabinet simulation...
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anyway, have to agree with okta.. buat apa pening2 nak experiment buat sound, pakai je kemudahan yg Line 6 ada, luangkan masa utk buat lagu! Sound rabak giler tapi lagu tak sedap tak guna jugak kan? hehehe... (remind diri sendiri jugak ni)
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| Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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beli v-amp 2 aje.. range harga dlm 400-500. Erylasia pakai v-amp2 dgn soundcard onboard dia je..ok je sound dia aku dengar. Pakai analog pedal pun kalau record guna pc, jadi digital gak akhirnya hahahaha.. tp aku bukannye pro pun pasal record merekod ni..
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| Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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| ETERNAL wrote: | setau aku ME30 takder AMP MODELING... (betul ker??)
Aku rase ko ader prob ngan Amp & cabinet modeling setting la..
g2 aku tak test lagi... |
Aku pun mcm tak ingat, tapi rasanya takde amp modeling, tapi dia ade preamp, so output can go direck to soundcard, tapi aku wat arituh through amp gitar.Still tak best, tapi kwn aku punya setting bagus, sound mmg cantik.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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One upon a time, mmg aku ade tercari2 guitar port Line6 nih, tapi bajek tak cukup, paling penting, tak bole bwk gig!huhuhu..sb tu aku aim mende2 yg 2in1 nih.
Paling hampir2 beli, Alesis firemix, tapi harge dia mmg takleh tahan la..
Ok bro, nak tanya, price for tone port yg palinggggggggggg murah bape?Line6 laa, bkn behringer..voodo lab pun ade kuwa kan?
#ps : Interceptor tu..best ahhh!!
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| tomei wrote: | | ETERNAL wrote: | setau aku ME30 takder AMP MODELING... (betul ker??)
Aku rase ko ader prob ngan Amp & cabinet modeling setting la..
g2 aku tak test lagi... |
Aku pun mcm tak ingat, tapi rasanya takde amp modeling, tapi dia ade preamp, so output can go direck to soundcard, tapi aku wat arituh through amp gitar.Still tak best, tapi kwn aku punya setting bagus, sound mmg cantik. |
hmm... preamp??
aku ingat die 'stompbox modelling' jer
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