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| negativecreep |
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Newspapers & Television are basically on corrupted government side. Pretty much bias form of media. Of course they'll make things sound bad. Dont care much. We who voted the Oppositions up, will just wait and see. Wont be putting 100% trust, but we hope for the best.
Talk and bashing wont bring any good to the country, to the people. Action speak louder than words. For ppl who joins the bashing, enjoy yourself.
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| keysersoze |
| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:58 pm Post subject: Re: . |
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| ultraman_cosmo wrote: | | keysersoze wrote: | | http://www.utusan.com.my/utusan/info.asp?y=2008&dt=0311&pub=Utusan_Malaysia&sec=Politik&pg=po_01.htm |
Silap la disitu kalo baca utusan utk dapat info pasal BA. For sure masing masing try buat rakyat confuse... hehheeheh. |
alamak bro suda salah ka? so sape jadi MB?? MB kedah & penang dah angkat sumpah... sbb kat malaysia kini pun ~Perak MB post still undecided~http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/79562 yg mane btol.
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| negativecreep |
| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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I think what Cosmo meant was, its a mistake for people to just rely on national media. Because, most of the time, national media were pretty bias.
Yes, the information is right, but i dont think people should start critisizing the Oppositions for it, cos it has only been 2 and a half days (1 & a half working days) since Barisan Rakyat took over Perak. If BN can use 4 years to do nothing, whats few days for the Opposition to carefully make the right choice for the post?
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| adzakael |
| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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Tahniah kpd semua pemenang
kpd yang kalah
jgn risau
sbb most likely takkan ada lain kali lagi utk anda
muahahaha
kempen politik bg aku bukan setakat time pilihanraya
ianya utk sepanjang masa
anyway
pakatan PAS/PKR/DAP dah start ade masalah
di Selangor dan Perak
bila diorng takleh nak decide sapa mau jd MB
worst come to worst
something very shocking akan menyusul
tp itu kalu worst come to worst la
mungkin parti sekular sosialis DAP bole berkompromi dgn parti Islam PAS
tp it might be one very uneasy alliance.
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| Ridzi |
| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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| adzakael wrote: | Tahniah kpd semua pemenang
kpd yang kalah
jgn risau
sbb most likely takkan ada lain kali lagi utk anda
muahahaha
kempen politik bg aku bukan setakat time pilihanraya
ianya utk sepanjang masa
anyway
pakatan PAS/PKR/DAP dah start ade masalah
di Selangor dan Perak
bila diorng takleh nak decide sapa mau jd MB
worst come to worst
something very shocking akan menyusul
tp itu kalu worst come to worst la
mungkin parti sekular sosialis DAP bole berkompromi dgn parti Islam PAS
tp it might be one very uneasy alliance. |
...you are such a pessimist aren't you? it's only been a few days |
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| ultraman_cosmo |
| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:47 am Post subject: |
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Lambat supaya bagi chan ex menteri besar sempat bakor or shred doc sebelom kantoi kat MB baru masuk opis.
Politik ne, bukan peribadi, so anytime boleh berkerja sama. Tak kisah la BA or BN or BB king or BC rich or BK tube driver or BIyang dan sebagainya. Maybe nampak personal di mata rakyat tapi pada ahli politik ia berbeza.
Always, not menteri can do for us, tapi what kita sendiri boleh sumbangkan utk negara.
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| adzakael |
| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:57 am Post subject: |
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well
i can just repeat ur word against me,with aslight modification,but i will not do that
however,i can say that my 'pessimism' is not without base and studies over precedence
having said that, my justification is not flawless and can be argued by anybody
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| karbaid |
| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:54 am Post subject: |
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cuma nak tau......
Sultan negeri-negeri tersebut sudah memperkenankan perlantikan menteri besar atau belum? adakah mereka sudah dilantik?
Dalam masa proses akan memperkenankan perlantikan tersebut, ada kemungkinan atau tidak bahawa ada orang-orang tertentu boleh menyeludup keluar dokumen-dokumen yang boleh dianggap sebagai rekod-rekod yang tidak diingini oleh rakyat yang telah atau boleh berlaku? Jadi, sekiranya benar, adakah ia boleh memberi kesan kepada pengurusan kerajaan negeri-negeri yang baru supaya pihak-pihak lain boleh menyalahkan mereka kelak dalam sistem pengurusan negeri dan rakyat?
Juga semasa proses-proses akan memperkenankan perlantikan tersebut, mengenai laporan-laporan mengenai Tadika Kemas bahawa pihak-pihak tertentu telah mengeluarkan komputer dan sebagainya, harta-harta tersebut adalah milik siapa? Milik kerajaan terdahulu atau milik pengurusan Tadika Kemas?
Minta maaf tentang soalan-soalan tersebut. Saya hanyalah rakyat biasa yang prihatin dengan perkembangan sekarang ini dan saya sayangkan negara ini, selain daripada hanya boleh bermain gitar dengan hanya tahu dua tiga chord sahaja.
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| karbaid |
| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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satu lagi......
salah satunya perancangan BA apabila menang, mereka dengan segeranya merujuk kepada SUK sebagai persediaan bila timbulnya penyeludupan keluar itu.
begitulah sebaliknya juga pihak kerajaan asal apabila telah kalah.
satu lagi, Constitution of Malaysia; kita ada itu. study balik kawan-kawan semua.
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| joe_labi |
| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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| OneMB |
| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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komen aku media massa kat Malaysia ni kira ok,
tak seteruk media massa luar yang dikuasai oleh golongan yahudi (US),
tak teruk mana pun media massa Malaysia ni,
jgn terikut sangat org barat yang kutuk media massa sendiri,
situasinya berlainan dengan Malaysia,
ape pun, sama² kita tengok ape sambungan cerita di SUK,
tak baik buat tanggapan negatif tanpa bukti, fitnah beb!,
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| adzakael |
| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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http://dapmalaysia.org/english/2008/mac08/lks/lks4797.htm
| Quote: | Media Statement by Lim Kit Siang in Petaling Jaya on Wednesday, 12th March 2008:
DAP CEC has given approval for the formation of a Perak coalition government headed by DAP or PKR but not by PAS – DAP Perak SAs to stay away from swearing-in ceremony
The decision to appoint a PAS Assemblyman Mohamad Nizar Jamaludin as Perak Mentri Besar has caused shock and consternation to DAP leaders, members and supporters.
The DAP Central Executive Committee, at its emergency meeting in Penang on Sunday, 9th March 2008, had given approval for the formation of a Perak coalition government comprising 18 DAP Assembly members, seven PKR Assemblymen and six PAS Assemblymen.
DAP is prepared to accept DAP chairman and Assemblyman for Sitiawan Ngeh Koo Ham or PKR Behrang Assemblyman Jamaluddin Mohd Radzi as Perak Mentri Besar.
As the appointment of PAS Assemblyman for Pasir Panjang Mohamad Nizar Jamaludin as Perak Mentri Besar representing the third and smallest political party in the proposed coalition has not received the mandate of the CEC, DAP Perak Assemblymen will stay away from the swearing-in ceremony for Perak Mentri Besar scheduled tomorrow.
* Lim Kit Siang, MP for Ipoh Timor & DAP Central Policy and Strategic Planning Commission Chairman
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eh?knp die bole accept calon PKR,tp bukan PAS?
tetiba aku dapat ilham psl mainstream media dgn alternative media kat mesia.
kat mesia, ramai tgk mainstream media sbg pembawa propaganda kerajaan,therefore bnyk info yg dibawa mcm berat sebelah. Oleh itu ramai yg berpendapat mainstream media bnyk menipu,walaupun ia memberitahu perkara yg benar
manakala ramai yg lihat alternative media sbg anti-mainstream media,therefore ia tak bawa propaganda kerajaan. Oleh itu ramai yg berpendapat alternative media bnyk berkata benar,meskipun ia memberitahu perkara yg tidak benar.
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| Scumgrief |
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| adzakael wrote: |
kat mesia, ramai tgk mainstream media sbg pembawa propaganda kerajaan,therefore bnyk info yg dibawa mcm berat sebelah. Oleh itu ramai yg berpendapat mainstream media bnyk menipu,walaupun ia memberitahu perkara yg benar
manakala ramai yg lihat alternative media sbg anti-mainstream media,therefore ia tak bawa propaganda kerajaan. Oleh itu ramai yg berpendapat alternative media bnyk berkata benar,meskipun ia memberitahu perkara yg tidak benar. |
The mainstream media (especially after Abdullah Ahmad Badawi came in power) is too lopsided in their reporting. Nobody said they are lying, but, I bet my left nut that what they are reporting is not 100% the truth either.
What I think should be practiced is fair and balanced reporting, which to me a lot of the alternative medias are practicing. For examples, see the difference of reporting on the BERSIH rally.
I am not saying that the Alternative media is 100% fair either, but saying that they are just there to spread lies is just plain dumb. And you sir, with all due respect, is talking out of your ass here.
As for Lim Kit Siang boycotting the Perak MB swearing in, well, he is a fool, and as far as I am concerned, if the opposition does not perform their duties, I WILL NOT vote for them again. And that is the beauty of democracy.
http://www.malaysia-today.net/2008/content/view/4292/84/
and
http://www.malaysia-today.net/2008/content/view/4263/84/
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| adzakael |
| Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:12 am Post subject: |
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aku rase ko dah salah paham ni
mungkin psl aku tak clear enough kot
let me explain
maksud aku,biarpun alternative media akan ckp benda yg tak benar,tp ramai akan perceive the info as the truth since kredibiliti mainstream media dah kurang,due to u know what.
plg sempoi la,one of the alternative medium is forwarded emails.
ramai org yg still lg percaya info dr fwd emails dr official media release.
perkara ni pun,aku observed,dah jd semacam satu plague
sbb ramai yg percaya tanpa usul periksa,eventough benda yg diwar-warkan does not make any sense.
one of the reason is the perception of the public that mainsteam media bnyk sembunyikan informasi mengenai sesuatu perkara/kejadian.
tp same goes to the alternative media,where kalu korang observe betul2 bnyk info yg dimanipulate dan disembunyikan just to justify the cause of some parties.to some extend ade yg sanggup nak dedahkan rahsia pertahanan negara.
having said that,not all info that goes on both sides were false.
kawan aku ade pernah tanye satu soalan kpd org yg pro-anwar dulu
"since anwar mmg advocate ketelusan dlm media dan informasi,ape yg akan die buat jika die satu info yg jika didedahkan dlm akhbar GERENTI akan hancurkan negara dlm satu hari?apekah dia akan sembunyikan info tu atau dedahkannya di media?"
jawapan kpd soalan tu apparently hanya membawa kpd dilemma dan paradox diatas sgl perjuangan ketelusan media.
dgn ape yg telah berlaku dan bakal berlaku lps ni,ade satu ancient quote yg aku rase agak wajar utk difikirkan
| Quote: | | Nec audiendi qui solent dicere, Vox populi, vox Dei, quum tumultuositas vulgi semper insaniae proxima sit.-Alquin |
And those people should not be listened to who keep saying the voice of the people is the voice of God, since the riotousness of the crowd is always very close to madness
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| keysersoze |
| Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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`mainstream media bnyk menipu,walaupun ia memberitahu perkara yg benar `
ituari aku ckp MB perak takde lagi..(sampai skang),tak sepakat.. sume org ckp aku bace paper BN. tapi itu cerita betul.. paper BN takble tukar fakta..tapi bleh cover mane yg dier rase menjejaskan..
mase zaman mahatir ade ke iklan ~undilah BN~ ? skang ni je ade(paklah&pegurusan) buat org rase meluat..kalu paklah turun lagi ok..
~tarak 2/3 ..tarak projek..tarak makan.~ 
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