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| STONE |
 Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:10 am Post subject: Metallica - Death Magnetic (2008) vs Trivium - Shogun (2008) |
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ok..
gua saja je nk tau pendapat lu orang sume pasal 2 band berlainan generasi nih..
dua2 band nih baru je rilis album baru..(Trivium 30/09/2008)
apa pendapat lu orang pasal dua band nih?
musikal diorg, performance atas stage, atau apa2 je..
ok sebelom korang bg pendapat, kasi gua start dulu ok..
gua rasa album metalika death magnetic ni x brapa "mencengkam" kalau compare dgn album2 lama diorg.. dan bila gua dengar ini album baru Trivium Shogun 2008, err wa susah mau cakap sbb bg gitar2 player, solo2 dlm album baru trivium nih gila2 belaka.. ada sound iron maiden, metalika apa sume..
pada gua lah, gua bukan mau kondem ini metalika..tapi gua rasa bbdak Trivium di kala album Crusade telah hampir2 mencipta sesuatu yg hampir2 di kemampuan otai atau idola mereka ni iaitu Metalika.. dan gua sangat berharap album Death Magnetic nih mampu mengatasi tahap musical bebudak Trivium nih.. tapi gua rasa agak sedih la sbb gua dgn ikhlas nya terpaksa gak meluahkan prasaan gua yg gua sebenarnya agak kecewa dgn Death Magnetic nih.. album Crusade Trivium agak kedepan dan idea bebudak nih memang hebat.. dan kalau gua mau compare dgn album Shogun plak, maybe lain skit sbb Matt Heafy dh start menjerit kemabli disamping menyanyi dan sedikit growl.. agak berat album Shogun nih..
apa2 pon, Trivium maseh lagi menganggap bahawa Metalika ialah idola mereka no 1..
yo kawan2, kasi lu orang punya pendapat.. kita kasi diskuz sini.. bleh???
TrackList:
1. That Was Just Your Life 07:08
2. The End of the Line 07:52
3. Broken, Beat & Scarred 06:25
4. The Day That Never Comes 07:56
5. All Nightmare Long 07:57
6. Cyanide 06:39
7. The Unforgiven III 07:46
8. The Judas Kiss 08:00
9. Suicide & Redemption (Instrumental) 09:57
10. My Apocalypse 05:02
Band:
James Hetfield : Vocals, Rhythm Guitar
Kirk Hammett : Lead Guitar
Robert Trujillo : Bass
Lars Ulrich : Drums
TrackList:
1. Kirisute Gomen 06:30
2. Torn Between Scylla and Charybdis 06:49
3. Down from the Sky 05:34
4. Insurrection 04:56
5. Into the Mouth of Hell We March 05:53
6. Throes of Perdition 05:55
7. He Who Spawned the Furies 04:07
8. Of Prometheus and the Crucifix 04:39
9. The Calamity 04:57
10. Like Callisto to a Star in Heaven 05:24
11. Shogun 11:53
Band:
Matt Heafy - Vocals/Guitars (Capharnaum (US), Mindscar)
Travis Smith - Drums
Corey Beaulieu - Guitar (Machine Head (US) (session live))
Paolo Gregoletto - Bass/Vocals (Metal Militia (US))
Roadrunner Records
September 30th, 2008
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| Ridzi |
| Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:42 am Post subject: |
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Metallica - a band that has been going on for nearly 25 years. Troo fans will always love them even if they released an album full of static. The members are 40 somethings.
Trivium - a band that is just about to take off. The members are young guns...
It's stupid to even contemplate to compare these two bands. Just because Matt Heafy likes to namedrop Metallica in their interviews doesn't make them as good or as successfull as Metallica.
Although Trivium's new stuff off "Shogun" is impressive and I am liking it, I can't help but feeling that Trivium is trying too hard to "poach" Metallica's fans.
Funny, because even with songs as good as "Like Callisto to a Star in Heaven", they would never be able to command the sort of loyalty from the fans like Metallica has.
Even technically Trivium's album is better - but it doesn't have the "magic" Metallica has.
Dare i even say that Metallica could be a religion.. hahaha
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| Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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3 hari punya posting baru ada sorang reply..
memang dok tunggu feedback pon..
sejak tembus di intenet memang hari2 gua kasi dengar ini album..
maksud gua dua2 album..
dan memang kerap sgt diskas dgn kekawan pasal 2 album nih..
death magnetic nih ada sorang die hard fan dia agak kecewa dgn tukang mix album ni. sbb arrangement lagu dh kuat tapi overall sound tu agak kecewa.. paling sedih sound snare ulrich.. xtau la apa pasal..
dan semalam gua ada sembang lg dgn kawan pasal death magnetic..
lain plak pendapat kwn gua tu.. kata nya album ni mengembalikan nostalgia album2 lama.. sound lama2.. bukan sound sekarang.. ntah susah nk taip apa yg kwn wa ckp..
dan ada sorang lagi kasi 1 statement yg agak straight forward..
kata nya lelagu metallica yg baru2 ni gempak.. tapi xde la sampai teruja mcm lelagu lama.. TERUJA.. hmm..
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| Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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The 1st time i dengar Death Magnetic i dah rasa... Metallica dah kembali... ia dah kembali ke zaman speed, trash metal... ciri2 lagu masterpiece mcm Master of Puppet, One... terdapat dlm ablum ini...
Semakin i dgr semakin i suka Death Magnetic.... sedap gila...
Bagi I, Black Album merupakan album yg tersedap, 2nd Death Magnetic. I juga kurang setuju ngan pendapat mixing bro earlier. Jika dicomperkan ngan ablum previous mcm Load, Re-load, St. Anger.... Death Magnetic tu jauh lebih berkuality... rasa influence Bob Rock dah takde
So bagi band legend ni serta "berumur" kira sgt bagus dah... byk band lain dah pupus dah... betul x?
Tapi pasal music ni.. memang ikut citarasa... so terpulang pada individual.
Lastly.... WELCOME back METALLICA! Awesome!!!
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| Scumgrief |
| Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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Fact:
Metallica >>>>>>>> Trivium
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| Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 8:38 am Post subject: |
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plus "tallica dah nak kena induced kat Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.. says a lot!
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| STONE wrote: | 3 hari punya posting baru ada sorang reply..
memang dok tunggu feedback pon..
sejak tembus di intenet memang hari2 gua kasi dengar ini album..
maksud gua dua2 album..
dan memang kerap sgt diskas dgn kekawan pasal 2 album nih..
death magnetic nih ada sorang die hard fan dia agak kecewa dgn tukang mix album ni. sbb arrangement lagu dh kuat tapi overall sound tu agak kecewa.. paling sedih sound snare ulrich.. xtau la apa pasal..
dan semalam gua ada sembang lg dgn kawan pasal death magnetic..
lain plak pendapat kwn gua tu.. kata nya album ni mengembalikan nostalgia album2 lama.. sound lama2.. bukan sound sekarang.. ntah susah nk taip apa yg kwn wa ckp..
dan ada sorang lagi kasi 1 statement yg agak straight forward..
kata nya lelagu metallica yg baru2 ni gempak.. tapi xde la sampai teruja mcm lelagu lama.. TERUJA.. hmm.. |
Kawan ko tu terrer ke mixing...? kalau terrer nak jugak aku dengar.... Mixing ni terpulang kepada citarasa tersendiri artis tu... Diorang suka mix lagi diorang camni.... Kalau tak suka... jangan dengar. Senang.
Takyah la nak kata kecewa ka...kutuk ka apa2 ka...sebab kalau nangis air mata darah sekali pun itu adalah seni dia.. sukahati diorang la nak mix cemana. Telinga masing2 kan?
Macam kalau orang komen lagu aku sendiri... kalau apa yang orang komen tu kena ngan vision aku...aku ambik komen tu...kalau rasa tak sesuai yang telinga dan jiwa aku...aku tak pakai. Kita takleh puaskan ati semua orang beb. sebab rambut sama hitam...hati lain2.
So suck on it. Metallica today sounds different. SO FUCKING WHAT??  |
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| Ridzi wrote: | | STONE wrote: | 3 hari punya posting baru ada sorang reply..
memang dok tunggu feedback pon..
sejak tembus di intenet memang hari2 gua kasi dengar ini album..
maksud gua dua2 album..
dan memang kerap sgt diskas dgn kekawan pasal 2 album nih..
death magnetic nih ada sorang die hard fan dia agak kecewa dgn tukang mix album ni. sbb arrangement lagu dh kuat tapi overall sound tu agak kecewa.. paling sedih sound snare ulrich.. xtau la apa pasal..
dan semalam gua ada sembang lg dgn kawan pasal death magnetic..
lain plak pendapat kwn gua tu.. kata nya album ni mengembalikan nostalgia album2 lama.. sound lama2.. bukan sound sekarang.. ntah susah nk taip apa yg kwn wa ckp..
dan ada sorang lagi kasi 1 statement yg agak straight forward..
kata nya lelagu metallica yg baru2 ni gempak.. tapi xde la sampai teruja mcm lelagu lama.. TERUJA.. hmm.. |
Kawan ko tu terrer ke mixing...? kalau terrer nak jugak aku dengar.... Mixing ni terpulang kepada citarasa tersendiri artis tu... Diorang suka mix lagi diorang camni.... Kalau tak suka... jangan dengar. Senang.
Takyah la nak kata kecewa ka...kutuk ka apa2 ka...sebab kalau nangis air mata darah sekali pun itu adalah seni dia.. sukahati diorang la nak mix cemana. Telinga masing2 kan?
Macam kalau orang komen lagu aku sendiri... kalau apa yang orang komen tu kena ngan vision aku...aku ambik komen tu...kalau rasa tak sesuai yang telinga dan jiwa aku...aku tak pakai. Kita takleh puaskan ati semua orang beb. sebab rambut sama hitam...hati lain2.
So suck on it. Metallica today sounds different. SO FUCKING WHAT?? |
+1 to your statement there bro ridzi,
mixing is an art..tp bg pendapat aku pula, death magnetic punya mixing lebih kurang mcm black album..
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Hmm entah la aku ada gak dengar dua tiga lagu trivium agak dasat jugak la technical wise tapi tak boleh nak disamakan dengan Metallica sebab pada pendapat aku metallica dah sampai tahap "nothing to prove" walau diaorang buat irama ethnic sekali pun orang akan beli album dia orang. Aku suka semua album dia orang walaupun banyak yang complaint sell out and bla bla bla.... ini bukan masaalah sell out ini adalah trend setter. cuba korang dengah album saint anger balik... berapa banyak band2 sekarang tiru sound diaorang (mungkin bukan bunyi snare lars  ) apa2 pun their are the best and if you really want to compare metallica there is only one band worth mentioning for me is megadeth.
Semua yang tertulis di atas adalah pendapat aku so lain padang lain belalang
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aku setuju ngan bro ridzi.
diorang ni dah taraf cult iconic status. even personally, dia punya "kick" pun aku rasa dah kurang.
and betul ckp ridzi, trivium is trying so hard to poach metallica in every single aspect. let it be playing, song writing. even at the moment they might sound like "whoooaa" but i dont think they are just at the same level yet as metallica. though i think they'll grow a lil mature soon. coz, i never liked the growl thing. hehe..
death magnetic is still a fine album la. cuma a lil frustated dengan unforgiven 3. coz, ntah, mcm itr doesnt fit sgt with the previous unforgiven.
still, hands down. they are metallica for god sake. they owned metal! 
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Perrrghhh....
Bagi aku Death Magnetic ni best giler, mcm kembali zaman Justice dan Puppet. Sound best, Arrangement yg lebih teliti. Lagi bagus berganda2 daripada reLoad and St. Anger. Lars Ulrich jugak membuktikan bahawa beliau masih mampu bermain double pedal laju.
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yeah.death magnetic,the 'tallica boys are back! The whole album itself is quite a progression from st anger.they still using the leftover riff from st.anger though and its "st anger vibe" is still there.But compared to trivium "Shogun" album, death magnetic sounded more organic and dare i say, down to earth and "lively" vibe.no extra-super-duper-show-off complicated skills.The amount of technicality is just nice. Glad to hear Hetfield chugging downstroke in "end of the line" and triplet in "my apocalypse".But the guitar sound could be a little bit heavier i think and the sound reminded me of kill em all somehow coz' of the distortion sounded grainy.haha.And the clipping... loudness war i guess? Trivium on another hand, the songs sounded a lil' bit cut and paste and 'pushed' more than the song could go. I dont know,its just my 2 cents. But both band still thrashing my world.heh.Anyway, glad to hear that thrash is back and hope it is here to stay. Cheerz! Hail METALLICA! Cant wait to hear jason newsted perform with metallica 4/4/2009 on the rock n roll hall of fame.
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bagi aku la kita tak bole nak buat perbandingan antara metallica dgn trivium, pasai diorang dari 2 generasi yg berbeza... metallica dah matang, diorang dah buat apa yang trivium baru nak buat skarang masa tahun 80an dulu.... masa tu semua orang dok gila dgr g&r tetiba diorang buat revolusi dgn speed metal... metallica pelopor, trivium just another metallica wanabe... METALLICA RULEZ
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susah juga nak vs kan otai ngan newbie* ni
Otai ngan cara otai..dorang akan evolve jugak...
cuma makin best atau makin tak best...bagi aku ok2 je laa Metallica DeathMagnetic ni...tak la seteruk Load+ReLoad tu....
good pe...sampai signature Ouija pon kuar balik ahahaha
Trivium pon best gak..dgn cara dorng...Musickan snantiasa evolusi...
so bagi aku dorang ni potential band laa
tapi kita tgk laa...20thn lagi..mesti dorang akan evolve jugak...
so psoalannya, masa tu kita tah leh trima lg ke tak style dorang?huhuhuhu
(*) takde la baru sangat huhuhu
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