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ultraman_cosmo
PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Pickup ne biasanya kalo kita tambah kekuatan mangnet utk pickup, ia akan add bottom to the tone, makaun kuat magnet maka ia respone more to the bass n middle area. Selain dari magnet gua ada juga letak bar besi utk tambah bass.

Aku teringat berapa tahun yg lepas, gua ada pickup neck paf neck. Tapi gua nak pakai kat bridge. Idup idup kalo install kat bridge, ini pikup bunyi nipis, tarak body langsong. So i try the same mathod, add more magnet behind the bar, then baru dia punya bass ada balik.

Ada beberapa cara lain utk alter freq transfer utk pickup.
- Add capasitan to the pickup, add capasitor parelel to the pickup. Somthing similar t0 the tone.
- kalo pakai pickup metal cover, add more high to the tone. less magnet tarik tali. Dynamic improve.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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actually aku agak baru jugak berkecimpong dalam dunia gitar nih, dan nak tanye satu soklan bodo jugak la..
aku ade fat strat.
cam ne nak dptkan sound twang tu?
puas gak pusing eq kat amp tu tapi x jumpe r, huhhu..
sbb steve vai ngan gilbert ade satu part tu cam ade twang sket sound die.
sedap la plak dengar..
huhhu.. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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stone_gossard wrote:


bro medroed,

apa yg ko buat?..ko lekatkan bar magnet kat bawah pup ko? cukup ke kedalaman cavity tu? ko bubuh kat dua2 pup? camna rupenye? apa penjelasan dari sudut zahirnya bila ko buat cenggitu?..menarik nih!!!


secara zahirnya.. gua letak kat pikap bridge je.. gua lekat selari dgn bar yg sedia ade. ekceli dia ade grounding plate kt pikap tu. so kena agak2 la jugak sbb x nampak bar/rod kat pikap tu. yg menarik tentang mod ni ialah kebiasaannya die x usik ape2 sgt melainkan kat part cavity kalu perlu. tapi igt kate member diatas.. kalu jauh sket dari string kluar body tone..haha..

camne pon.. sound ni.. ikut suke ko la benornye.. no minimum or maximum. kalu ko dh suke n enjoy sound tu.. stick to it je.. lepak dulu main puas2... gua dulu kaki humbucker so suke dgn sound yg bassy/punchy.. jadi mod ni amat2 membantu gua dalam berjalan2 dgn ke'enjoyan dalam dunia single coil. hehehe..

cavity die ngam2 je n satu mslh ialah xleh rendahkan balik! haha!

tapi takpe.. gua tgh syok dgn sound die skrg.. walaupun tele tu belom handren persen siap lagi.. huhu!

utk pengetahuan.. gua rs.. yg terbaik adalah lu try usha site singlecoil.com

kat situ ade byk info basic- intermediate mods. amp ade fx ade guitar pon ade.. so pilihlah mane yg bersesuaian..

site ni member gua encik tat kasik refer..so kredit utk beliau.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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bros,

aku baru angkt ibanez rgt220A prestige. Very Happy
sound dia aku kureng sket ah.
dia punya treble melampau sket.

aku minat sound yg mellow sket. tp brighter than sound lespaul + SD jb
ala2 mike ammot gituh. so apa cadangan korang?
output pun kene tinggi la sket. aku minat rock - heavy metal

body swam ash, rosewood fingerboard.
swam ash ni brighter dr alder kan??
kalo dimarzio tonezone ok x??
output tonzone ni dlm kategori hot kan?
kalo banding dgn output sd jb mana lg tinggi ah??

ada jgk tpikir nak pakai emg ZW.. tp cun ke x? Idea Rolling Eyes
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ultraman_cosmo
PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Quote:
aku baru angkt ibanez rgt220A prestige. Very Happy
sound dia aku kureng sket ah.
dia punya treble melampau sket.

- sebenarnya guitar tu sedap juga bunyi dia.
- cuma kita ketegorykan ia guitar bright.
- Macam gitar killer akira loudness pun bright juga.
- nak buat squel, harmony picking senang.

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aku minat sound yg mellow sket. tp brighter than sound lespaul + SD jb
ala2 mike ammot gituh. so apa cadangan korang?
output pun kene tinggi la sket. aku minat rock - heavy metal

- Problem guitar ne kalo tak silap gua, dia punya bridge pickup jer.
- neck pickup cukup heavy tone dia.
- SD jb biasa lagi banyak high.
- Ammot pakai mohagany guitar + JB.
- Ash dan mohagany ne jauh besa tone dia, sorang kat perlis sorang kat danga bay.


Quote:
body swam ash, rosewood fingerboard.
swam ash ni brighter dr alder kan??

- dia bright tone.

Quote:
kalo dimarzio tonezone ok x??

- RG ne terkenal dengan light wood tone.
- mean bright guitar.
- Tonezone bridge + norton neck adalah configuration paling famous utk RG guitar.


Quote:
output tonzone ni dlm kategori hot kan?

- antara pickup yg paling rendah output dalam ketegory pickup HIGH output dimarzio.
- ketegory high output, tapi tak setinggi output evo,X2n, super distortion.
- Ini pickup dari spec dia, ia ada putaran gelung yg banyak tapi magnet alnico yg m0oderate kekuatan magnetnya.
- So kemungkinan utk magnet tarik tali dan kill sustain tu kurang.
- so the result ko dapat output banyak dan sustain pun panjang.
- Ini pickup boleh add more mid dan bassy, supaya guitar rg yg bright tu boleh ballan balik tone dia.

Quote:
kalo banding dgn output sd jb mana lg tinggi ah??

- lebih kurang,

Quote:
ada jgk tpikir nak pakai emg ZW.. tp cun ke x? Idea Rolling Eyes

- ZW adalah set EMG81 bridge dan EMG85 neck.
- Tapi utk guitar bright macam swap ash, EMG81 akan bunyi nipis kat bridge. So ada baik kita split kasih EMG85 yg lebih bassy kat bridge dan 81 plak jadi neck.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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mcm biasa. ultraman punya explain mmg detail. trimas! Very Happy

ko da try gitar ni? aku amik dr i-bands forumers jgk..
neck pickup mmg best. aku suka.

aku nk tukar pickup bridge je.
so, aku try tone zone lah.
lain2??

tone zone - 8.5, 8.5, 5

super distortion - 8, 7.5, 5
yg ni output tinggi sket..
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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jackwylde wrote:
mcm biasa. ultraman punya explain mmg detail. trimas! Very Happy

ko da try gitar ni? aku amik dr i-bands forumers jgk..
neck pickup mmg best. aku suka.

aku nk tukar pickup bridge je.
so, aku try tone zone lah.
lain2??

tone zone - 8.5, 8.5, 5

super distortion - 8, 7.5, 5
yg ni output tinggi sket..
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- gtr tu berasal dari putrajaya lah kot. heheheheheh.
- super distortion ceramic magnet
- tone zone pakai alnicoVI.
- kalo gua, aku pilih tonejon[slang member gua], pasal tak tinggi sangat output dan alnico ne dia punya clean merdu.
- super distortion clean mesti sound crackle, 400nV dimarzio tinggi tu.
- tonejon lemak gilosss. macam teh tarik ada campok holick... kakkakaka.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Super Distortion Dirmazioooo...Best oooOO
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:44 am    Post subject: Re: suggestion> Reply with quote



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stone_gossard wrote:
Kozam wrote:
stone_gossard wrote:
bro ultraman_cosmo,

tukar pickup satu topic yg menarik..tapi kene tahu le apa yg diperlukan..
sebenarnya aku nak mintak suggestion gak mengenai gitar kesayangan aku highway 1 strat (model 2005, bukan model yg baru yg telah banyak di 'hot-modded' kan).

sedikit preview p/up stock kat gitar aku, (mengikut pemahaman aku)

neck p/up - a bit bassy/muddy (esspecially tali 4-6), kalu boleh nak abit bright lagi, tapi aku suka bila main solo kat fret 12-14, tone kat area situ aku consider sbgai tone strat yg diidamkan.

middle p/up - dah cukup bagi aku, sebabyna jarang sgt guna..heheh..no complaint, sebab aku suka bunyi bila guna neck/middle pup..sesuai strumming bunyi accaoustic.

bridge p/up - bright rasanye dah cukup gigit, tapi kekadang terlalu nipis, apatah lagi bila tambah distort pedals, kombinasi middle/bridge cun bagi aku..sesuaiii main lagu 60-an, tambah delay skit..

so, bole kah en. ultraman suggest a good upgrade pickup (based dari komplen aku tadi) to upgrade my stock p/up. nak trial n error tu, aku tak mampu la..buang duit bebanyak..hehehe..so, bros yg lain pun bole berikan pandangan ya...thanks!



Bro,

fender tu fingerboard maple or Rosewood? Mcm dh explained kat atas td, rosewood sound lebih bassy and warm. So try look for pu yg high treble or mid....the other solution is tukar neck maple jer bro...sure timbul sound....like quote kt atas...sound and tone body very much connected dgn sound PU...it has to be balance..first..know you guitar acoustic character...then select right PU to balance ngan body/neck tone....


yo bro kozam,

neck aku maple la (1 piece kot)..memang issue balance tu yg perlu diamik kira..penerangan dari ultraman dan encik kozam akan saya amik kira, kesimpulan saya saya dpt ialah saya akan try setupkan gitar dulu, n then baru pikir camna nak upgrade p/up (if perlu)...

tenkiu bros2 sakalian.


Utk maple fingerboard, aku suggest taruk nitrocellulose lacquer.....kena buat kt kedai GG.....memang sensasi dan soundnya mengancam....
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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just to share,I installed one set of Seymour Duncan "Blackout" 3 week ago,
sounds good to me,but then again its active and thats a story for another day, Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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aku baru install SD Hot Rails kat bridge strat aku mlm tadi.... hmm aku rasa dia punya output agak tinggi, dan pickup dia pun kuat jugak... even kalau aku cakap kat pickup tu, suara aku boleh kuar kat speaker hahaha...

apa pasal jd mcm tu? mmg dia bersifat microphonic ke ha?

sebelum tu biar aku explain mcm mana aku install.... aku tak solder wire2 tu (rupa2 nya aku punya soldering iron sudah jual daaa hahaha)... so aku potong existing wires, dan connect dgn wire2 Hot Rails tu guna tape aje.... hehehe ade kah itu menyumbang kepada problem di atas?


perghh... tinggi gak output hot rails ni... mcm tak serasi la pulak sbb dah biasa pakai pickup murahan hehehe....
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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tu sebab berdosa pakai hotrail kat strat tu...hahahhaa....jgn mara ha...
pakai HS3 la..mid dgn treble dia balance..output pun x setinggi hotrail
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Kozam wrote:
tu sebab berdosa pakai hotrail kat strat tu...hahahhaa....jgn mara ha...
pakai HS3 la..mid dgn treble dia balance..output pun x setinggi hotrail


Pakai HS3 pon berdosa kene pakai stock punya je..hahaha
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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hahah sial la korang.. itu pon bleh jatuh hukum dosa ke...
tu ingat nak jual balik la... sapa minat hi-output pickups ni?
aku nak pakai standard single coil je la.... Embarassed
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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deadzid wrote:
hahah sial la korang.. itu pon bleh jatuh hukum dosa ke...
tu ingat nak jual balik la... sapa minat hi-output pickups ni?
aku nak pakai standard single coil je la.... Embarassed


kena samak dulu gitar tu baru leh masuk pikap standard balik
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