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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 1:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Kenape la aku x penah suka fender strat... aku nak jual Reply with quote



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afiqme wrote:
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Fender US, japan & mexico semua berbeza bro... kalu belum test fender US or japan jangan cakap lagi yg anda tak suka fender.

Adik aku umur 9 tahun yang baru belajar nak main guitar, kalu bagi kat dia guitar kapok dan fender aku rasa dia tak mampu nak nilai yang mane lebih sedap hahaha.


haha.. u're wrong if ure saying i never play the US or japan made fender ... everyday i would play at least 5 new guitar models from diff brands bla3 ... and also ive known lots of friends wit us made fender ... i mean no need for me to tell you exactly what i'm doing, but believe me, you got no idea how many guitars ive tested out till now...


Hehe... So bro jual jugak fender ni akhirnya eh.... aura jackson tu terlampau kuat eh....
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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maybe it's

1) the radius 7.25 dgn 12
2) the scale length 24 or 24.5 or 25
3) the fret wires, vintage, mid or jumbo

definitely not the guitar.. it's a matter of preference. andreas kisser from sepultura pakai strat macam 70s but dah taruk humbucker.. but 62 reissue guna vintage frets and 7.25 radius.

btw, aku lak tak bole main short scale.. ha ha ha! if you think that the guitar tak at your comfy, pakai lah yg bersesuaian. no hassle because you are the one who is going to play the guitar anyway..
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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browndog2woof wrote:
maybe it's

1) the radius 7.25 dgn 12
2) the scale length 24 or 24.5 or 25
3) the fret wires, vintage, mid or jumbo

definitely not the guitar.. it's a matter of preference. andreas kisser from sepultura pakai strat macam 70s but dah taruk humbucker.. but 62 reissue guna vintage frets and 7.25 radius.

btw, aku lak tak bole main short scale.. ha ha ha! if you think that the guitar tak at your comfy, pakai lah yg bersesuaian. no hassle because you are the one who is going to play the guitar anyway..


radius guitar ni 7.25 ... vintage fretwire ... mula2 ada jugak dalam planning nak kasi flatter radius pegi 10 or 12 then refret with jumbo ... tapi at last dari aku lagi pening kepala, aku rasa baik aku jual aja ... hehehe Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:33 am    Post subject: Re: Kenape la aku x penah suka fender strat... aku nak jual Reply with quote



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Sub Level wrote:
afiqme wrote:
sardinxp wrote:
Fender US, japan & mexico semua berbeza bro... kalu belum test fender US or japan jangan cakap lagi yg anda tak suka fender.

Adik aku umur 9 tahun yang baru belajar nak main guitar, kalu bagi kat dia guitar kapok dan fender aku rasa dia tak mampu nak nilai yang mane lebih sedap hahaha.


haha.. u're wrong if ure saying i never play the US or japan made fender ... everyday i would play at least 5 new guitar models from diff brands bla3 ... and also ive known lots of friends wit us made fender ... i mean no need for me to tell you exactly what i'm doing, but believe me, you got no idea how many guitars ive tested out till now...


Hehe... So bro jual jugak fender ni akhirnya eh.... aura jackson tu terlampau kuat eh....


yah .. itu tepat sekali ... tapi those yg before fender jackson ... ... Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Kozam wrote:
fender nih...skali dah terlekat ngan tone dia...mmg dah x nk pakai gitar lain..huhui cant live without my fender...mari beli fender ini


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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NaNStrat wrote:
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fender nih...skali dah terlekat ngan tone dia...mmg dah x nk pakai gitar lain..huhui cant live without my fender...mari beli fender ini


Setuju sangat....tanyalah orang-orang spt Malmsteen, Clapton, Frusciante, Jeff Beck, Hendrix (dh mati,mcm mana tanya..ek..), Gilmour, Blacmore, Gary Moore....more n more...kalau local scene pulak...Browndog, Aji, Sham K....dan ramai lagi....he...he...


Tak tentu gak kot... Mungkin org yg suke jenis tone die mmg akan terus lekat kot... ade gak yg dari awal pakai fender pastu lari ke gitar lain..mungkin tone die tak sesuai ngan lagu yg die nak main...Malmsteen sendiri pun Tone fender die tak same ngan Tone fender yg die penah pakai dulu (yg headstock kecik thn 61 kot).. die ubah abih tone fender tuh ke tone yg kene ngan lagu yg die nak main...dah tak nampak dah tone fender ori kat gitar malmsteen tuh...
Jadi, fender tak mungkin sedap kalau lagu yg nak dimainkan tuh ala lagu yg melibatkan sesuatu yg agresive atau solo yg kaw2 byk... sebab tuh la paul gilber,steve vai,petrucci,vinnie moore atau mereka2 yg nak solo kebanyakannye tak guna Fender, mcm kotzen, dulu die pakai ibanez, solo die kaw2 punye.. die tukar ke fender je... perubahan die lebih kepade singing.....

Tuh pendapat aku la... tak tau la pendapat org lain...
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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jibraun wrote:
Tone fender yg die penah pakai dulu (yg headstock kecik thn 61 kot).. die ubah abih tone fender tuh ke tone yg kene ngan lagu yg die nak main...dah tak nampak dah tone fender ori kat gitar malmsteen tuh...


Ni aku kurang setuju.Tone fender dia memang kuat from first album to last one.mcm mana maksud kau 'ubah tone fender'tuh?aku kurang mengerti..
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huishh....panas..panas...panas...

aik kozam tak online YM ka?
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is this the right time to say that the tone is actually coming out from the finger itself?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Kozam wrote:
jibraun wrote:
Tone fender yg die penah pakai dulu (yg headstock kecik thn 61 kot).. die ubah abih tone fender tuh ke tone yg kene ngan lagu yg die nak main...dah tak nampak dah tone fender ori kat gitar malmsteen tuh...


Ni aku kurang setuju.Tone fender dia memang kuat from first album to last one.mcm mana maksud kau 'ubah tone fender'tuh?aku kurang mengerti..


a'ah la... pe maksud "ubah tone fender" tu??? pe malmsteens pakai materials lain ke buat body strats tu??? Shocked Shocked Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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aku rase tindakan jual ni adalah amat betul skali...kalau memang strat bukan untuk anda..

ni aku nak share sket...

dulu mase skolah aku memang minat strat... tp mase tu mane la nak tau pasal sound and x mampu nak beli satu...cume suke pasal rupe je... then letakkan sebagai mimpi je... then bile dh masuk uni ader bebudak muzik kat itm time tu bwh satu fakulti ngan aku ader la mcm2 strat...sume cite pasal US laa, mexico la...japan la... satu hape pun aku x paham. So bile aku dpt test...perghhhh!....gile nipis bunyi die...x mcm gitar pun...memang aku x leh nak appreciate mule2...and aku lebih cenderung ngan gitar2 mcm les paul...memang aku ketepikan strat....lame2 aku sedar ader bende kat strat yang gitar lain x de...iaitu bunyi clean die...memang cun...senonoh gile....

Pastu bile dh start keje aku pun beli strat japan sebab bunyi clean die...tp aku still x suke bile die pakai drive...bg aku memang nipis sound die....nipis gile...pakai tremolo pun confirm lari... so aku jdkan die gitar yg second...bile dh lame2 aku jumpe org tua kat puchong tu(aik mcm kenal je)...die cite pasal setup sume...pasal kayu...pasal hardware..sume segalanye pasal strat...tp still aku rase yg bunyi die nipis nak mampus bile pakai drive......tp bile dengar mat salleh main sume ok je... tapi part high gain memang aku rase kantoi....pastu aku dh jadi pening.....aku suke clean strat tp suke distortion kat les paul.....perghh memang sial...so mcm mane nak buat? aku dengarlah nasihat browndog tu untuk test mcm2 jenis strat n mcm2 strat yg aku beli...siap ade satu bulan tu aku penah beli 3 strat betukar2. sume x sesuai....

bende bagi leceh pada strat bagi aku ialah....rupe sume same je tp sound sume x same....

so bermulalah pencarian strat ku itu....sampailah jenis drive yang sesuai and study cara mcm mane nak kuarkan sound yg berat dr strat...lame2 aku dh jumpe yg sesuai ngan aku...byk bende yg terlibat secara langsung...jenis kayu...jenis pikap jenis hardware dan setup gitar(ala mcm browndog nye artikel tu la) actually betul ckp otaiker...STRATOCASTER `the most real guitar ever...sebabnye....gitar ni akan ikut kau...bukan kau ikut gitar...lagi kuat kau petik...lagi berat kau hentam same die...lagi besarla bunyi yang kuar...tp untuk mengawal bende tu memang akan amik mase...lagi2 kalau dh biase sgt ngan humbucker. tp kalau pasal neck tebal ke nipis itu dh jd cite lain...akau memang suke neck tebal sebab tanganku GOMOK x muek kalau nak pakai neck nipis. mungkin kau perlu gi custom kalau x sesuai...

dr segi tone... memang sebenarnye die datang dari jari...and dr kepalo otak,kate STEVE VAI...aku rase betul sebab memang kalau pakai ape pun kite akan tweek mcm mane kite nak...memang ade beza...tp slightly beza...ape kau suke pakai itu hak kau...bagi aku pemain gitar ngan instrumen adalah mcm shinigami dan zanpakutonya(Sape tgk bleach tau la) ia adalah satu...kalau charisma antara kedua dh x de....pakai la gitar ape pun same je...

Kesimpulannye...kite x tau yg satu hari kite suke bende yg kite x suke tu sebab taste akan betukar-tukar... pakaila apa yg sesuai dengan anda sebab hanya anda yang tau..kalau sume org suke satu type je kan boring....

ceh...dh panjang gile dh ni...x de keje lak...

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jibraun wrote:

Jadi, fender tak mungkin sedap kalau lagu yg nak dimainkan tuh ala lagu yg melibatkan sesuatu yg agresive atau solo yg kaw2 byk...

die ubah abih tone fender tuh ke tone yg kene ngan lagu yg die nak main...dah tak nampak dah tone fender ori kat gitar malmsteen tuh...



ooo fakai strat tak leh solo kaw2 dan agressive rupanya... baru aku tau

nak buatpe ubah tone fender kalu dia nak sound lain.. pakai je laa guitar lain hahaha...

kalulah tone boleh diubah2... pakai sejenis guitar je cukup.. kalu rasa nak main ibanez.. ubah jadi tone ibanez.. rasa nak main les paul ubah tone les paul hahaha...
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alamak ai.... makin pening la baca thread nie.. hahahaha.. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy satu pe pun tak faham... hehehehe Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

apa2 pn FREE BUMP for u bro afiqme!!!! Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
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Kozam wrote:
jibraun wrote:
Tone fender yg die penah pakai dulu (yg headstock kecik thn 61 kot).. die ubah abih tone fender tuh ke tone yg kene ngan lagu yg die nak main...dah tak nampak dah tone fender ori kat gitar malmsteen tuh...


Ni aku kurang setuju.Tone fender dia memang kuat from first album to last one.mcm mana maksud kau 'ubah tone fender'tuh?aku kurang mengerti..


Tak same la... Mase gitar yg headstock kecik tuh..die dengan Steeler (try dengar steeler pastu dengar YJM rising force mmg lain la ngan Alcatrazz,s\ skali ) mase steeler mmg die pakai fender yg headstock kecik tuh.. sampai lah die dpt custom fender headstock besar...
dengar betul2 mmg lain...Tone fender ori mmg takkan dpt sound mcm malmsteen..Malmsteen mmg suke shape strats tuh... sebab tuh die tak moh tukar gitar lain... gitar die tuh, die tukar pickup, tukar Volume port, matikan Tone port (taruk buat2 gimik je, tak idup pun tone port die) pickup tgh die pun tak idup, input pun die tukar <-- nih die yg ckp sendiri... gi guitar world carik review malmsteen...kayu, buatan sume mmg fender.. mmg tak same ngan yg lame punye tuh... string die pun lain... gitar YJM tuh mmg bukan tone fender... tuh dah jadi Tone signature Malmsteen... sebab tuh ade gitar signature.. bukan shape je yg ikut artis tuh... tapi tone artis skali die ikut... tapi jari yg menentukan tone individu...tapi tak tentu gak jari yg menetukan.. sebab kalau malmsteen pakai ibanez rg biase2 takkan dpt tone yg same ngan fender die...kecuali die custom ibanez tuh ikut fender die... ye tak tipu !! Laughing

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Malmsteen uses Fender Stratocasters, especially vintage instruments from 1968 through 1972. His Strats tend to feature scalloped fingerboards and DiMarzio HS-3 pickups, and (more recently) the staggered-polepiece HS-3 released as the Dimarzio YJM. He routinely disconnects the middle pickup and tone controls on his guitars. Malmsteen briefly used Schecter Guitars in the 1980s, who built him Stratocaster-style guitars similar to his Fenders. While in Alcatrazz, he also used Aria Pro II.

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The "Rising Force Live 85" video saw Yngwie use a couple of Strats that had very early Floyd Rose tremolo systems installed, these were just the trem units with no locking nuts installed. For the Steeler and Alcatrazz albums Yngwie used DiMarzio FS-1 pickups. During the early days of Steeler, Yngwie modified a rosewood necked 1970's Fender Stratocaster with DiMarzio humbuckers, this was apparently at the request of Ron Keel, the humbuckers were replaced by HS-3's shortly after the split from Steeler. I do not know whether Yngwie recorded with this guitar (it doesn't sound like it) but live pics from that time show a dual humbucker equipped Strat.. <--- Mmg tak same la...
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hooo. habis yngwie punye guitar 2 kira x ikut fender biase la yerk??? tapi klu pickup kat fender die 2 x mengubah tone ke??? ke yngwie mmg x pakai tone???
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