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cyrusour
PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 9:22 pm    Post subject: Tumpang tanya - Apakah beza dan menjadi persoalan Ibanez? Reply with quote



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Apakah beza dan menjadi persoalan Ibanez (Terutama RG series), jika buatan nya dari Japan, Korea, Indonesia atau China. Tidakkah mereka semua dibuat dgn spec dan material yang sudah sama standardnya? Saya sekadar ingin tahu dari bro2 yg pakar dgn Ibanez dan dapat membantu saya yg tgh survey RG series..

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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aku pun tak berape tahu sangat pasal bende ni selain drpd harge yg berbeze2.. haha.. tp slalunye craftmanship dan material quality lagi elok if made in japan.. and slalunye gitar ibanez high end made in japan.. for indonesia, mostly yg low end model tp aku dgr org cakap quality die lagi bagus dr china and some say lagi elok dr korea.. aku pun tk bape sure sangat sebab aku tk penah try. haha Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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mmg ade perbezaan material, finishing dam mcm mcm lagi..citer pasal pikap, f/rose semua tuh dah terlalu common..aku citer perbezaan lain pulak, sebagai contoh neck ibanez gio (china) kenape tak sama feel nye dgn neck japan?..Gio punya mcm agak tak kukuh senang bengkok, tune lari.. Japan punya mcm o.k aje.. padahal sama sama guna hard maple.. kat sini cara pembuatan tuh pun dah berbeza.. kayu kayu mati (selalunye 20thn) kering sepenuh nye paling sesuai dibuat body guitar dan neck.. kayu mati nih boleh tahan cuaca sejuk atau panas.. misal nye kita nih musician yg biasa perform kat luar negara.. cuaca kat luar negara tuh lembab ade panas ade.. gitar ko pun kembang kuncup la jawab nye.. tak kena gaya crack terus..so selected kayu pun dah mmg mahal..

guitar quality rendah selalu nye bukan dari kayu yg betul betul kering (mati).. kalo keringkan pun pakai oven aje.. tuh bila guitar guitar gio nih dibawak masuk ke Malaysia.. kita beli.. pakai kejap ade semua out..
aku bukan mandai mandai aje.. nih Ken Smith yang ckp..tak kenal Ken smith sila la google... Ken smith ade simpan stok kayu berusia 30thn dlm simpanan dia tuk buat bass..heheheh..

Selain Japan ade gak Ibanez US.. model USRG..High end gak..model nih last produce thn 1995 tak silap aku.. Model John Petrucci tuh mmg adik beradik dgn USRG...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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[quote="T|melessness"]mmg ade perbezaan material, finishing dam mcm mcm lagi..citer pasal pikap, f/rose semua tuh dah terlalu common..aku citer perbezaan lain pulak, sebagai contoh neck ibanez gio (china) kenape tak sama feel nye dgn neck japan?..Gio punya mcm agak tak kukuh senang bengkok, tune lari.. Japan punya mcm o.k aje.. padahal sama sama guna hard maple.. kat sini cara pembuatan tuh pun dah berbeza.. [/quote

Time kasih byk bro..
Klu blh ada lg info2 tentang component seperti Tremolo brigde, tuner machine, pick up dan wiring. tidak kah component ni standard walaupun dari mana buatannya skali pun?(kecuali GIO series).

Please saya perlukan detail beza tentang made from..
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:17 pm    Post subject: opinion Reply with quote



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Aku ade perbezaan pendapat,
GIO is the best kalo compare ngan brand yg lbh krg sama hrg(below 1k),
ini berdasar kn kenyataan (reality)

1. aku ltk GIO GRG20bkn kat studio aku from 2004 smpai skang.
aku da re fret 4 kali msh elok jer gtr tu,
neck x prnh patah patah pn,
just imagine, da 4 kali refret, mcm mn org lanyak dia?
x caya mai dtg tgk sndr.
da 5 thn kna lanyak beb, jari ber puluh malah beratus-ratus,
mcm2 pesyen dia org gentel,
jari bsr? jari kcl? jari panjang? jari pendek?
jari buruh kasar? jari pekerja office? steady jer

2.Neck GIO nmpk tak thn dr Jpn punyer.
aku ada bukti yg mengatakan sebalik nye,
Dlm masa 1 tahun aku da repair neck crack Ibanez made in Japan sebanyak 4 unit,
neck benkok ke blkg area fret 12, Ibanez made in Japan juga,
kalo bow ke blkg melengkong cantek, ini mcm ala2 siku beb,
Lbh 5 thn aku x pernah repair neck crack GIO made in China,
aku x pernah trm neck Gio crack, this is reality,

3.Sound n playability amat bgs, bukti nyer,
Setiap kali aku kluar kn GIO for maintenance dr dlm studio,
akan ada shj jammers yg akan tanya
"mana ibanez htm tu bang?"
knp ini tdk berlaku kpd gtr yg lain,
(washburn X series, Yamaha 112, sq.....)

Sebenarnya, apa2 brand gtr yg dibeli dr kedai perlu di set up kan dahulu,
br bley dpt feel dia yg sbnr,
tp bg yg beginner, aku saran kn bg dorg main 2 ~ 6 minggu dulu,
bru hntr set up, supaya dia lbh peka perbezaan gtr sblm & slps set up.
Ini ada kebaikan bg dr dorg sbb pd ms akn dtg dia da tahu samada
gtr dia msh keadaan bgs atau da smpai ms perlu d set up kn,


T|melessness wrote:
mmg ade perbezaan material, finishing dam mcm mcm lagi..citer pasal pikap, f/rose semua tuh dah terlalu common..aku citer perbezaan lain pulak, sebagai contoh neck ibanez gio (china) kenape tak sama feel nye dgn neck japan?..
Ini adalah perbezaan reka bentuk,

Gio punya mcm agak tak kukuh senang bengkok, tune lari.. Japan punya mcm o.k aje.. padahal sama sama guna hard maple..
mcm aje, tp kenyataan nye berbeza,

kat sini cara pembuatan tuh pun dah berbeza.. kayu kayu mati (selalunye 20thn) kering sepenuh nye paling sesuai dibuat body guitar dan neck.. kayu mati nih boleh tahan cuaca sejuk atau panas.. misal nye kita nih musician yg biasa perform kat luar negara.. cuaca kat luar negara tuh lembab ade panas ade.. gitar ko pun kembang kuncup la jawab nye.. tak kena gaya crack terus..so selected kayu pun dah mmg mahal..

guitar quality rendah selalu nye bukan dari kayu yg betul betul kering (mati).. kalo keringkan pun pakai oven aje.. tuh bila guitar guitar gio nih dibawak masuk ke Malaysia.. kita beli.. pakai kejap ade semua out..
aku bukan mandai mandai aje.. nih Ken Smith yang ckp
adakah Ken smith cakap tentang GIO atau just common je?
..tak kenal Ken smith sila la google... Ken smith ade simpan stok kayu berusia 30thn dlm simpanan dia tuk buat bass..heheheh..

Selain Japan ade gak Ibanez US.. model USRG..High end gak..model nih last produce thn 1995 tak silap aku.. Model John Petrucci tuh mmg adik beradik dgn USRG...


Pendapat dr ramai org lbh baik dr pendapat seorang.

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itu le kan lain org lain pendapat.. hehehe..pengalaman kita dengan pengalaman org lain berbeza.. kita tak boleh kata tidak atau tak betul dah mcm menidak kan pengalaman org lain tu.. aku pun berdasar kan reality.. ibanez japan aku pakai sendiri dan 2 bijik Gio.. satu model ala strat body (studio membe aku pakai) satu lagi ala Grg membe lain pakai tuk personal use.. maaf byk byk.. tuan punya guitar sendiri ckp out..hehehe.. aku pun dah try kedua kedua nye.. mmg asal boleh main aje la senang ckp..aku pegang sendiri aku main sendiri mmg tak o.k.. takan nak ckp o.k..hehehe

tapi itu lah kadang kadang beli brg music nih nasib.. dapat yg o.k mmg bertuah..kalo sebalik nye.. mmg mood hilang 100% nak petik..

Ken smith bercakap perihal kayu mati yg bagus utk di buat gitar dan bass.. kayu kayu ini lah yg dipilih utk dibuat bass nye yg berharga puluhan ribu.. bkn nye dia kata pasal gio.. misunderstood tuh bro boyroy..

pendapat ramai org mmg baik dari seorang.. tapi pengalaman yg dilalui berbeza.. so pendapat berbeza beza..kekeke..
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:04 pm    Post subject: ok je Reply with quote



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Ok jer bro,
just x nak bg adik2 kita confunse or misunderstood,
aku stj, kdg2 bl brg music ni pn kr nsb gak, dpt yg cantk kr untung ar,
better kt plh btl2 semasa beli,
Apa2 pun tujuan aku untuk kebaikan semata mata,
at least salah satu sumbangan dalam bidang music,
semoga music tnh air kita lbh meriah

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ya betul.. erkk studio kat maner bro?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:19 pm    Post subject: jmpt Reply with quote



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Jmpt dtg ke ORANGE MUSIC STUDIO
seky 28 Shah Alam,
tp bkn studio canggh bro,
ala2 je,

T|melessness wrote:
ya betul.. erkk studio kat maner bro?

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boyroy wrote:
Jmpt dtg ke ORANGE MUSIC STUDIO
seky 28 Shah Alam,
tp bkn studio canggh bro,
ala2 je,

T|melessness wrote:
ya betul.. erkk studio kat maner bro?


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