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ultraman_cosmo |
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:22 am Post subject: Kenal size pickup anda. |
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Hari ne gua ingin menerangkan pekara yg simple tapi kita jarang ambik tahu.
- Sebabkan kebanyakan yg upgrade pickup ne main belasah jer aper yg boleh muat.
- tak boleh muat tu lain cerita la
- article ne harap bileh guide anda supaya korang sama ada seller or buyer tau spec size utk pickup yg anda nak jual or beli.
- biasanya kita refer to bridge pickup.
- walopun neck pickup biasanya standard spacing tapi utk guitar yg nut dia lebih lebar, F spacing akan jadi lebih sesuai.
Pickup Spacing
- ada banyak size dari single coil to mini humbuker to humbuker to soapbar.
- Spacing adalah jarak dari string 1st E to string 6th low E.
- lespaul biasanya ada
1. Standard Spacing
- ada macam macam nama lain utk spacing ne
- Regular spacing, les paul spacing,
- Biasanya pickup ne adalah utk guitar tanpa tremolo, terutamanya les paul or gibson nyer guaitar.
- ukuran nya adalah 1.9 inchi or 48mm jarak dari 1st pole center to 6th pole center.
2. F Spacing
- ada panggil Fender spacing, tremolo spacing.
- Trembuker ada version F spacing utk pickup Duncan.
- biasanya utk guitar fender, floyd rose, jackson, ibanez dan kebanyakan guitar dalam pasaran
- jarak dia adalah 51mm or 2.01 inchi.
3. tele Spacing
- ini pickup panjang skit dari pickup biasa
- 2.165 inchi or 55 mm
- ini kita tinggal kan utk sifu syafie utk terangkan.
- nak tunggu gu ada tele lambat lagi... hahahhaah.
Kenapa perlu betul spacing ne?
- Sebabnya kita nak string bebetul berada dibawah pole pickup.
- jika kita guna F spaced pickup pada guitar lespaul.
- kemungkinan pickup ring tak muat, kalo muat pun kita akan dapati pole utk 1st string dan 6th string tak berada pada bebetul bawah string.
- Walopun bunyi nya hamir sama, sebenarnya 1st string biasanya akan tak bunyi sebaiknya.
- String 6 pula akan mengalami msalah magnetik pull string effect lebih.
- Paling teruk kalo pasang bridge Standard spacing kepada guitar Tremolo.
- Tremolo bridge memiliki spacing lebar mana kala pickup spaced standard plak pendek.
- Masuk pickup ring sureada banyak lebih ruang.
- pole pickup dah tak berada bebetul bawah string.
- Akibatnya, volume utk keseleuruhan string tak ballance.
- 6th string volume kureng berbanding 5th, punchy pun kurang.
- 2nd string plak bunyi kuat berbanding 1st string macam ada volume drop.
- So boleh ka kita nak buat settup yg terbaik kalo kita tak gunakan pickup yg betul.
Macam mana nak tahu guitar kita pakai standard spaced or F space?
- tanya sama pembaris laaaaa, jangan tanya gua...
- Anda perlukan pembaris 6 inchi biasa dengan inchi or mm.
- Anda perlu ingat no 2 inchi.
- ukur jarak string 1st to 6th pada area pickup bridge anda.
- kalo lebih 2 inchi tu mean F spacing
- kalo kurang dari 2 inchi maka ia adalah standard spacing.
Macam mana nak tau spacing pickup?
- Yaaa, tanya pembaris, ingat 2 inchi.
- ukur center 1st pole hingga last pole center.
- kalo kebih 2 inchi maka F spaced.
- kalo kureng standard sped for lespaul type guitar.
Macam mana plak pickup tarak pole bang?
- EMG or lace sensor biasanya F spacing.
- tapi anda perlu consider sama ada kedalaman cavity pickup dan keluasan lobang pickup ring sesuai.
- pickup blade biasanya F spaced tapi tak semua.
- D sonic ada standard spaced or F spaced.
- D Activator ada standard and F space.
- kesemua pickup yg replacement utk strat macam tonezone S adalah F spacing.
- aper aper pun Ukur, the blade must lebih dari 2inchi. terlebih tak per.
- kalo kureng tu masalah la.
- pickup yg pole besar gedabak macam duncan invader biasanya F spacing. pakai kat guitar standard spacing pun tak der masalah.
Aper lagi kena tengok kalo nak tukar pickup?
- selain F spaced ne kita kena tau muat ker kedalaman cavity pickup.
- muat tak pickup ring.
- cukup panjang or terlebih panjang jer skrew utk hold puckup.
- spring retainer cukup panjang or terlalu pendek, nanti pickup berjoget.
- Size skrew pickup sesuai ker utk pickup yg baru.
Pickup ring ada size ker?
- Ada... Warna laaa... kakkakakka
- selain dari panjang nya berbeza.
- ketebalannya juga berbeza, lespaul type guitar dengan-ve angle neck biasanya perlukan pickup ring yg tinggi.
- pickup ring utk bridge dan neck biasanya ketebalan berbeza.
- pickup ring utk flattop dan achtop juga berbeza.
- pickup ring ibanez ada beza skit dari segi skrew hole dan round bucu nya.
Trembucker tu amenderrrr?
- ia adalah F space humbuker utk Duncan pickup.
- contoh kita ada SH1 59 utk standard spacing.
- dan duncan ada TB59 utk F spacing.
- Duncan JB kit ada version SH-4 standard spacing manakala TB-4 utk F spacing.
Ok sekain harap ia boleh membantu anda membeli or menjual pickup pickup.
- nak jual barang pun belajar belajar lah mengenali spec dia yaaa.
correct me kalo ada salah.
- sesiapa nak tambah or ceritakan pengalaman anda, ia dipersilakan.
Thank
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deadzid |
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:50 am Post subject: |
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okay... kalau pickup yg ade cover mcm EMG tu mcm mana pulak nak ukur? takkan nak cabut cover tu?
contoh: pickup Ibanez V7 + V8 (covered version)... atau EMG-Designed for Ibanez... (damn, aku sudah salah beli pickup le ni?? huhuhu)
hmm kalu mcm Duncan Hot Rails / Dimarzio Chopper tu mmg F-spaced la kan? means kalau blade, apa gitar pun bleh masuk? betul ke? _________________ > facebook
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deadzid |
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | - EMG or lace sensor biasanya F spacing. |
tapi aku tgk banyak gak gitar les paul pakai EMG... so yg tu mcm mana plak? even model2 yg straight from the factory mcm les paul zakk wylde pakai emg-hz, etc... _________________ > facebook
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ultraman_cosmo |
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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deadzid wrote: | Quote: | - EMG or lace sensor biasanya F spacing. |
tapi aku tgk banyak gak gitar les paul pakai EMG... so yg tu mcm mana plak? even model2 yg straight from the factory mcm les paul zakk wylde pakai emg-hz, etc... |
biasanya muat laaa.
- pasal cavity lespaul tak la kecik sangat,
- walopun pickup les paul kecik, tapi metal cover dia besar..
- so of cos muat.
- cuma, memang ada pickup lespaul yg tak muat F space ne.
- what they do, adalah rout balik pickup ring tersebut supaya tak sendat sangat macam seluar mat rempit.
- nak pakai EMG and lace lain skit pasal dia tak pakai pole.
- asalkan muat cavity tarak masalah.
- pakai F space kat lespaul less huru hara berbanding ko pakai standard space kat tremolo guitar.
- EMG dan lace ne lain skit psal tak ada pole, dia punya medan magnet tak berpusat kat pole. situasi ne berbeza la dengan pickup dengan skrew pole.
Quote: | hmm kalu mcm Duncan Hot Rails / Dimarzio Chopper tu mmg F-spaced la kan? means kalau blade, apa gitar pun bleh masuk? betul ke? |
- tu tak der masalah, semua pickup yg standard replacement tuk strat biasanya F spaced.
- blade Hotrail and cool rail, terlebih panjang lagi ada... hahhahha.
Quote: | contoh: pickup Ibanez V7 + V8 (covered version)... atau EMG-Designed for Ibanez... (damn, aku sudah salah beli pickup le ni?? huhuhu) |
- rasanya kedua duanya F space,
- benda ada pole ko boleh ukur laaa. _________________ Maiden, loudness, ACDC, black sabath, deep purple, jimmi and vinnie moore
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huzai |
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1731
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thanks ultraman, aku dah kena, korang bila lagi?
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browndog2woof |
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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ha ha ha.. got that covered! always know your guitars. vintage semua shallow aaaa.. ada tau apa itu half moon or nail holes? ori specs are more shallow about 1.5mm from reissues. the nearest reissues to specs are 94 japs or squire year 81 to 82.. jadi, newer pickups with dah overpowered and some even cartoon in sizes.. tak kan ko nak hack ko punya 60s guitar sebab nak fit in new pickups.. that is what happen to most vintage guitars in malaysia..
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deadzid |
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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ultraman_cosmo wrote: | Quote: | contoh: pickup Ibanez V7 + V8 (covered version)... atau EMG-Designed for Ibanez... (damn, aku sudah salah beli pickup le ni?? huhuhu) |
- rasanya kedua duanya F space,
- benda ada pole ko boleh ukur laaa. |
mana ade pole... (ke aku salah tafsir?)... sila refer gambar bawah ni...
tu pickup V7 (neck) + V8 (bridge)... covered mcm EMG... so mcm mana nak ukur ???
Quote: | - EMG or lace sensor biasanya F spacing.
- EMG dan lace ne lain skit psal tak ada pole, dia punya medan magnet tak berpusat kat pole. situasi ne berbeza la dengan pickup dengan skrew pole
- pakai F space kat lespaul less huru hara berbanding ko pakai standard space kat tremolo guitar. |
so in conclusion, any type of bridge boleh pakai F-spaced pickups...
ok baru paham... sorry, my bad!
so kira aku ni masih dalam safe zone laa... huhuhu berbanding dgn sorang mamat pakai Ibanez with floating trem tapi install standard spaced duncans tu? huhuhuhuhuzai.... _________________ > facebook
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huzai |
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:14 am Post subject: |
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Angsakawan
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1731
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deadzid wrote: | [
so kira aku ni masih dalam safe zone laa... huhuhu berbanding dgn sorang mamat pakai Ibanez with floating trem tapi install standard spaced duncans tu? huhuhuhuhuzai.... |
takpe tunggu la nanti turn ko, amin..
doa orang teraniaya kuat tau hahahhahahaa |
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ultraman_cosmo |
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:33 am Post subject: |
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huzai wrote: | deadzid wrote: | [
so kira aku ni masih dalam safe zone laa... huhuhu berbanding dgn sorang mamat pakai Ibanez with floating trem tapi install standard spaced duncans tu? huhuhuhuhuzai.... |
takpe tunggu la nanti turn ko, amin..
doa orang teraniaya kuat tau hahahhahahaa |
Buan sekali tapi dua KALI..
- Kali ketiga nanti kita suruh dia makan makanan keli dia satu beg.
- kakakkaakkakakaak.
- lintah ko boleh ukur, pickup tak nak ukur plak...kakakak
lariiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii... _________________ Maiden, loudness, ACDC, black sabath, deep purple, jimmi and vinnie moore
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huzai |
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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Angsakawan
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1731
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ultraman_cosmo wrote: |
Buan sekali tapi dua KALI..
- Kali ketiga nanti kita suruh dia makan makanan keli dia satu beg.
- kakakkaakkakakaak.
- lintah ko boleh ukur, pickup tak nak ukur plak...kakakak
lariiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii... |
ko gelak ye otromen hmm aku jual pikap emg ok jugak kan?
hahahahahaha |
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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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huh??? x terpikir plak pasal pickup nie.. jeng jeng jeng!!!! pengalaman baru nie... sebelum x thu plak pickup de size... yg thu single coil, humbucker... tu je la.. len2 x penah dgr.... tapi thank u bro otromen sebab bagi tau info nie... bagus tul.. terima kasi atas sumbangan anda... _________________ I'm a Lefty Guitarist...
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deadzid |
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:46 am Post subject: |
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huzai wrote: | ultraman_cosmo wrote: |
Buan sekali tapi dua KALI..
- Kali ketiga nanti kita suruh dia makan makanan keli dia satu beg.
- kakakkaakkakakaak.
- lintah ko boleh ukur, pickup tak nak ukur plak...kakakak
lariiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii... |
ko gelak ye otromen hmm aku jual pikap emg ok jugak kan?
hahahahahaha |
huzai, ko punya phone kan ade GPRS...
ko guna la features tu utk ukur distance between pole 1 - pole 6
hahahah
oi farid tunggu aku...
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ultraman_cosmo |
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:57 am Post subject: |
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GPrS tulis 2.1 km, PASAL tu ingat muat.
lariiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii.
- zid laju skit, ko lari macam itik... _________________ Maiden, loudness, ACDC, black sabath, deep purple, jimmi and vinnie moore
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huzai |
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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Angsakawan
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GPRS ukur eh? kakakakkakakakaka
bukan GPS ke? hahahahhahahahaah
ok ah, aku ada nak jual pikap EMG rm50 je dua, skali ngan gitar rm100 sape nak? hahahhaaha |
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seram siot...nasib baik x beli pickup lg...fuhhh...hehehe....tq2... _________________ -Cockos Reaper 4
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