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klu tak kena batang hidung sendiri memang la tak kecoh... 
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| sardinxp |
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ape patah2 hidung??? ko hengat ko ahli tinju hahaha
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panas.. panas.. panas...
pusing... pusing... pusing...
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| double tracking wrote: | senang cita la,tak perlu la beruk ni mengambil kesempatan keatas veteran2 yang majoriti daif internet dgn pandai 2 post iklan nak untung senang.apa la salah ajar durang cara nak post iklan dlm internet,dapat jual takkanlah owner taknak huloq sikit kan.nak jugak untung senang ribu2!
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Uish,statement kasar ni.marah veteran2.
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| browndog2woof |
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pergh! macam2 pon ada.. best time to share.. ada kes gak kaum suruh jual guitar, lepastu email gambar suruh post.. dia mintak 5k camtu.. tapi bila ternampak member boleh jual tinggi dan dah dapat buyer, pergh! mula tamak lak.. kasi kensel. buyer ngamok, broker jatuh repo pasal berok, seller lari senang hati..
moral of the story, bila dah janji to somebody for an aggreed price to sell (seller tarak reti cari customer), when the intermediate sells superbly at a better price, seller dah start tamak.. thinks he should deserved more, changed his mind and decided not to sell.. in other way, tutup jalan and gets a little greedy.. diam2 dia check forum looking for the customer and re advertised.
the best part, he go tell the macai different story.. biasa le, mula cari excuse nak cover.. macai pon poyo.. ha ha ha!
my advise
1) deal dengan orang yg boleh pakai je dan yg ada ethics niaga
2) if people sell high prices, don't buy if you are not up to it.. it's his or her right to sell at whatever price he wants. sometimes even kelakar..
3) if your already promised somebody a price, stick to it. jangan ada perasaan tamak and turns the sequel up to bidding lak.. (banyak kat forum ni) ingat aaa, islam ada akad. itu pon kalo kenal la.
4) please don't make unreasonable offer macam nak beli a 66 ori strat 1k. it makes you look fantasticly stupid.
5) always ask a pro before buying.. mintak advise. plenty of rojakaster around. aku ada jumpa vintage neck 62 dgn body 66. but owner claims full ori 62 and buyer pays 10k for the neck and the hacked body.. well, tu duit dia, dia punya pasal la..
6) jangan tunjuk yg kita kemaruk sangat bila nak beli barang, mesti kena tekan.. and also, jangan stupid proud.
7) also, ramai kat forum tunjuk macam innocent je, but when it comes to money.. pergh! kawan pon bole potong..
8) jangan ada hasad dengki if your friends guitar is older than yours.. ha ha ha!
that's my advise.. in buying..
careful aaa, there's a fish bait set aaaa..
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| khairold |
| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:42 am Post subject: |
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the value of an item is not based on the item per se, but also on the ability of the seller
it may sound cruel, and i'm not saying whats right or wrong
but the reality is no matter what item that u own, u will have no idea what it is actually worth until u are able to sell it
a person might be able to sell for more than the other just because he know where to get buyer and how to sell - that it self is a valuable piece of skills
so if the owner is naive then what can i say
i'm not saying is its ethical to hide the actual market value but thats just the way the world works, not just in trading vintage stuff
the informed will always have an advantage against the naive
to expect the informed to guide the naive so together they share the big fat profit
well that is just - naive |
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| sardinxp |
| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| double tracking wrote: | senang cita la,tak perlu la beruk ni mengambil kesempatan keatas veteran2 yang majoriti daif internet dgn pandai 2 post iklan nak untung senang.apa la salah ajar durang cara nak post iklan dlm internet,dapat jual takkanlah owner taknak huloq sikit kan.nak jugak untung senang ribu2!
lu pikirlah sendiri!! |
Masalah reti internet or tak reti tuh adalah kelebihan seller/broker...
kes pertama:
2 bijik kedai makan yang bersebelahan dan bermusuhan kerana sebijik kedai ramai pelanggan dan sebijik kedai lagi ramai perkerja daripada pelanggan. Ini semua adalah kerana kedai yang ramai pelanggan tuh mempunyai KELEBIHAN seperti :
1.Tukang masak yang bagus
2.Lokasi kedai yang strategik
3.Kedai yang bersih dan menarik
Memang dah sifat manusia yg berhati busuk, bila kedai tak laku aje mula lah salahkan kedai sebelah kononnya ada hantar jin bagi tutup mata customer supaya tak nampak dia punya kedai lah, hape2 je lah. Jumpa bomoh penipu pulak cakap ni semua angkara kerja orang dekat2 aje.
Kes kedua:
Kenapa dalam bilik servis sepatutnya customer tidak dibenarkan masuk? Kadang2 diorang tak reti nak charge brape kalu berjaya selesaikan problem mudah di depan customer (mudah tapi kalu suruh customer buat sendiri, sampai kiamat pun belum tentu selesai). kalu caj kang mesti customer cakap, repair mcm tuh pun kene bayar ke??? Kalu yang baik hati biasanya tak caj 1 sen pun kat customer. Ada jugak yang siap bagi tunjuk ajar pulak kat customer.
Tapi fikirlah... dieorang cari makan bro. Sewa kedai, gaji pekerja, air, letrik & internet semua nak kene bayar.
So jadilah customer yang berbudi bahasa, tetap tinggalkan duit walopun tak dikenakan caj, lepas minum pagi dieorang pun cukuplah, tanda penghargaan kita kepada perkhidmatan yg diberi. Kalu tak kerana dia, barang yg nak direpair langsung tak berfungsi buat ape simpan? buang laaa kalu sayang duit.
Kesimpulan:
Kelebihan diorang adalah rezeki diorang, so tak perlu nak dengki2, renungkan dan perbaiki kekurangan diri.
"blah sambil menggosok2 batang hidung sendiri"
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| sardinxp wrote: |
"blah sambil menggosok2 batang hidung sendiri" |
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[quote="browndog2woof"]pergh! macam2 pon ada.. best time to share.. ada kes gak kaum suruh jual guitar, lepastu email gambar suruh post.. dia mintak 5k camtu.. tapi bila ternampak member boleh jual tinggi dan dah dapat buyer, pergh! mula tamak lak.. kasi kensel. buyer ngamok, broker jatuh repo pasal berok, seller lari senang hati..
kepada saudara yg arif,saya nak betanya
owner yang daif internet mintak 5k,tukang post(beruk) tulis 10k.agak2 patut ke makan komisyen sampai 5k.barang tu dah jadi milik tukang post ke?dah akad ke?sekadar posting iklan (download gambar) dan type lebih kurang pun nak makan komisyen 100% ke?cuba saudara yg arif berada di pihak owner,ingat tak melenting ke??
apa fish bait tu,bahasa mafia ke ha??hahaha tak mainla bahasa mulut ni |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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wadduhhhh kok panas ini...
Apa2 pun kalau dah bagi barang suruh broker jualkan tu faham2 dah la.
Kalau susah sgt jual je sendiri.
Broker biasanya ada ramai kaki dan besenya customer yg nak beli tu pun ada nego harga kalau letak 10k pun mestia da kurang sikit jadi 8-9k. Owner pun tetap dapat 5k.
Kekadanag ni owner dok kampung or kawasan pendalaman. Kalau dia jual dgn org kg dia jugak harga 5k tak ada org nak beli. May be org kg tu dalam kepala dia Baik beli lembu dapat 5 ekor. Time nak raya jual 5 ekor lembu tu dapat lagi untung 2-3k.
Kalau beli guitar vintage org kampung tu kene pikir 800x nak beli. Aku nak buat apa guitar rege 5k.
Besenya hanya collecter yg nak beli guitar2 vintage atau pun ahlil muzik atau pun org lain yg betul2 minat dgn barang vintage.
Makanya broker2 ni pasti ada kenalan yg taksub dgn barang vintage dia kenal bukan sorang dua tapi ramai
hanya johari mengenal maniam. JUST MY DUA SEN
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| double tracking wrote: | kepada saudara yg arif,saya nak betanya
owner yang daif internet mintak 5k,tukang post(beruk) tulis 10k.agak2 patut ke makan komisyen sampai 5k.barang tu dah jadi milik tukang post ke?dah akad ke?sekadar posting iklan (download gambar) dan type lebih kurang pun nak makan komisyen 100% ke?cuba saudara yg arif berada di pihak owner,ingat tak melenting ke??
apa fish bait tu,bahasa mafia ke ha??hahaha tak mainla bahasa mulut ni |
Kalau dah janji nak jual 5k, itu pilihan sendiri
Kalau org lain boleh jual 10k, jangan pulak nak dengki
Kalau dah tau diri tu daif, jangan main belasah je berjanji
Kalau dah memang tak reti, pergi dulu mengaji
Bila dah ada ilmu, baru tak membuta tuli
Sebab bila dah berjanji, mesti ditepati |
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[quote="double tracking"] | browndog2woof wrote: | pergh! macam2 pon ada.. best time to share.. ada kes gak kaum suruh jual guitar, lepastu email gambar suruh post.. dia mintak 5k camtu.. tapi bila ternampak member boleh jual tinggi dan dah dapat buyer, pergh! mula tamak lak.. kasi kensel. buyer ngamok, broker jatuh repo pasal berok, seller lari senang hati..
kepada saudara yg arif,saya nak betanya
owner yang daif internet mintak 5k,tukang post(beruk) tulis 10k.agak2 patut ke makan komisyen sampai 5k.barang tu dah jadi milik tukang post ke?dah akad ke?sekadar posting iklan (download gambar) dan type lebih kurang pun nak makan komisyen 100% ke?cuba saudara yg arif berada di pihak owner,ingat tak melenting ke??
apa fish bait tu,bahasa mafia ke ha??hahaha tak mainla bahasa mulut ni |
le, tak payah pusing2 la cerita ni. dah basi pon kat tempat gg dah pasal mamat ni dan cerita ni (dah kena label dah pon mamat ni, definitely not by me, dan tak sampai hati aku nak tulis, non of my business) tsk! tsk! tsk!
also yg arif, email mamat tu kepada seller pon dah ada cukup bukti.. aku dah tengok aku tau la.. dia email harga mau jual, dia email gambar mau jual. (btw, email tu telah pon di pra tonton kepada kawan2 yg patut2) hmm, tapi macam 'pakcu' bila tengok seller boleh buat more money, dah start gabla dan jadi gila meroyan.. pergh!
aku punya advise sangat simple je, kalo tak reti meniaga dan reti nak maximize profit, mengaku je la.. jangan la nak tunjuk konon2 innocent dan naive lak nak jual murah dan frame orang lain.. itu cerita kartun la jalud. don't fictionised yourself too much or you'll start living with your imaginary friend. this got nothing to do with the 'melenting' issue. we all know that. as long as you got the money you asked and demanded for, not a single sen lowballed by the seller, consider it done, right! but then heck, 'no'! I smell fish here!
sama gak mondus operandi mamat ni dilakukan ketika nak jual amp satu masa ketika dulu.. zzzz, sungguh membosankan. but he did it the opposite way, maklumlah, tak mau untungla kata kan (sebab naive and innocent..)..bila dia mau jual, dan dah ada customer ready sudah mau beli, dah jadi bid lak siapa higher macam kat ebay.. hmm.. bosan. but itu dia punya pasal and that's another story.
fish bait bukan bahasa mafia la.. itu pon ko salah tafsir, are you sure ko tu daif internet je? pity, such a pity.
my best advise is, henti2kan lah kerja2 dan niat malicious tu. what is bygone is bygone and time to move along. you'll be fine alright. so peace be upon you!
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[quote="browndog2woof"] | double tracking wrote: | | browndog2woof wrote: | pergh! macam2 pon ada.. best time to share.. ada kes gak kaum suruh jual guitar, lepastu email gambar suruh post.. dia mintak 5k camtu.. tapi bila ternampak member boleh jual tinggi dan dah dapat buyer, pergh! mula tamak lak.. kasi kensel. buyer ngamok, broker jatuh repo pasal berok, seller lari senang hati..
kepada saudara yg arif,saya nak betanya
owner yang daif internet mintak 5k,tukang post(beruk) tulis 10k.agak2 patut ke makan komisyen sampai 5k.barang tu dah jadi milik tukang post ke?dah akad ke?sekadar posting iklan (download gambar) dan type lebih kurang pun nak makan komisyen 100% ke?cuba saudara yg arif berada di pihak owner,ingat tak melenting ke??
apa fish bait tu,bahasa mafia ke ha??hahaha tak mainla bahasa mulut ni |
le, tak payah pusing2 la cerita ni. dah basi pon kat tempat xx dah pasal mamat ni dan cerita ni (dah kena label dah pon mamat ni, definitely not by me, dan tak sampai hati aku nak tulis, non of my business) tsk! tsk! tsk!
also yg arif, email mamat tu kepada seller pon dah ada cukup bukti.. aku dah tengok aku tau la.. dia email harga mau jual, dia email gambar mau jual. (btw, email tu telah pon di pra tonton kepada kawan2 yg patut2) hmm, tapi macam 'pakcu' bila tengok seller boleh buat more money, dah start gabla dan jadi gila meroyan.. pergh!
aku punya advise sangat simple je, kalo tak reti meniaga dan reti nak maximize profit, mengaku je la.. jangan la nak tunjuk konon2 innocent dan naive lak nak jual murah dan frame orang lain.. itu cerita kartun la jalud. don't fictionised yourself too much or you'll start living with your imaginary friend. this got nothing to do with the 'melenting' issue. we all know that. as long as you got the money you asked and demanded for, not a single sen lowballed by the seller, consider it done, right! but then heck, 'no'! I smell fish here!
sama gak mondus operandi mamat ni dilakukan ketika nak jual amp satu masa ketika dulu.. zzzz, sungguh membosankan. but he did it the opposite way, maklumlah, tak mau untungla kata kan (sebab naive and innocent..)..bila dia mau jual, dan dah ada customer ready sudah mau beli, dah jadi bid lak siapa higher macam kat ebay.. hmm.. bosan. but itu dia punya pasal and that's another story.
fish bait bukan bahasa mafia la.. itu pon ko salah tafsir, are you sure ko tu daif internet je? pity, such a pity.
my best advise is, henti2kan lah kerja2 dan niat malicious tu. what is bygone is bygone and time to move along. you'll be fine alright. so peace be upon you! |
tak tejawab soalan2 aku diatas kan?sapa la pulak pusing cerita tau tau dah panas .faham ka apa itu maksud MANIPULASI?sukahati la kalau masing masing nak menegakkan kebenaran masing2,apa apa pun boleh cakap!aku senang aje,beruk dah masuk perangkap(hahaha),so aku tak perlu nak tambah2 lagi.bab owner tak tau gitar dia kena post ke,atau berok dakwa owner yang suruh post ke,sukahatila nak cakap apa.aku disini pun tak buat public accusation hahaha.cuma sudah semestinya ahli2 forum di sini cukup arif dan alert yang tersurat dan tersirat di thread ni.korang dah tau cerita sebenarkan..
Kepada ahli 2 forum yang lain,waspadalah.
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ok senang citer mcm ni la... benda ni more kpd ethics... bukan pasal dengki ke hapa....
let's say, aku ada barang nak jual, say soundcard TASCAM... kalau kat public, aku announce utk jual pada harga RM500. But then one day, datang la sorang kawan baik yg mmg aku percaya dan kamcing giler.... dia kata dia baru nak berjinak-jinak dlm dunia home-recording ni.... so atas dasar KAWAN, dan sbb kesian takut dia tak tau what's best for him, aku pon offer la TASCAM aku ni pada harga RM250 je - ni harga KAWAN-KAWAN aku bagi.... bukan PUBLIC punya price.... so "kawan" aku ni pun beli la dgn gumbiranya....
Tapi 2 hari kemudian, aku belek2 mudah.my.... amat la terkejut bila melihat aku punya ex-TASCAM tu dijual pada harga RM800 dan bila di kaji selidik, di dapati tukang jual tu ialah "kawan" baik aku yg 2 hari lepas tu..
hmm mcm mana rasa? aku takde rasa dengki, cuma terkilan dan keciwa bila "kawan baik" buat mcm tu... mana dia punya etchic as a good friend? aku jual murah kat dia sebab aku ingat dia yg nak pakai.... kalau aku tau dia beli semata-mata utk jual balik, seriously aku takkan jual kat dia.... niat awal pon dah tak betul.... so? ntah la....... dlm kegawatan ekonomi ni, mmg mudah utk hilang kawan hanya disebabkan "sekeping kertas ada harga diri"....
i-bands sediakan ruang iklaneka utk user bertukar2 gear, cari pengalaman utk guna barang lain sbg alternatif... bukan tempat ut kaut untung, bukan tpt utk kedai muzik promote barang, etc.... tapi utk musician kpd musician... bak kata ridzi, baik tukar jadi "i-sell.net"....
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