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| poundcake |
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| Black King Bar wrote: | | ETERNAL wrote: | err.. bro..
sound balancing time main sorang2 ngan main ramai2 tak same..
so kalau test sorang2 sedap.. tak semestinya time test ramai2 sedap gak.. |
agree. masa test sorang2 rasa mcm dah kow gile dah tapi bila sume main tak dgr apa. aku pernah ikut kawan amik gitar dia kat fatty and skinny. masa tu fatty tunjuk demo cemana nak sound balance & his main point lebih kepada benda2 yg langsung aku tak faham cthnya frekuensi. volume amp yg kuat belum dpt menjamin kita dpt dengar sound gitar bile main ramai2.
p/s: headroom tu apa?  |
headroom tu macam ekstra level yg available.. contoh honda cup lari 50km/j dengan 120km/j
yang 120km/j tu takde headroom dah.. hujung2 je...
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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Wah banyak jugak response ttg sound balancing ni.
puondcake: Thanks a lot. Nampaknya ko mmg faham tentang live setup ni. nanti aku print dan framekan apa yg ko tulis. Cuma tips yang mula2 ko tulis tu hanya berkesan bagi yg sedar diri aje. Tapi kalau yang takde telinga tu, tak mananya dia nak slowkan sound dia.. keh keh keh..
Black King Bar: hal frekuensi yang member ko ckp tu ialah cut-through frequency. Cuba ko cerita sikit apa yg ko ingat dia ckp kat ko. Aku mmg nak tau pasal cut-through frequency ni jugak.
Ajeepek: sapa guitarist ko skrg? dia gila kuasa tak?
Mmg bagus la bro Boyroy create topik ni, aku rasa hal2 live performance ni masih kurang dibincangkan lagi dalam i-bands.
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| poundcake |
| Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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no problem bro.. gua kepingin bila bleh tengok lu, bode etc jem.. best wei..
aku ni tau sikit2 jer.. minat favourite past time..
tapi kita tengok keadaan kita kat negara one Malaysia tercinta ni:
-barang2 tak best, rosak, tak berfungsi
-tak cukup monitor atas stage..
-gitarist dah tukar nama jadi blastocaster
-drummer 'naik sheikh' tak mau ketuk pelan
apa rumusan kita boleh buat?
eternal: mana nye? sound sytem ozawa..passing2 bro hehe
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| ETERNAL |
| Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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sound system OZawa dah kasi kat pemanggil pertama.. 
Aku rasa setiap band member kena tahu bezakan antara sound tak kedengaran disebabkan 'volume' or 'clarity'.
Selalunya kalau korang main dirty, tak clean or bising mesti la sound tak clear... pastu up volume... hancusssss... 
Klu korang men sorang2 tak clean/bising... mesti la boleh dengar sedap lagi..
klu dah main camtu 3-4 orang... serabut laa...
yang aku hangin nye pasal live band ni..
Gitaris/ bassist
- time sound check die petik guitar slow2... tapi time live bleh petik kuat2 plak... atau sebalik nye...
- pastu output vol kat gitar/bass sentiasa pulas abes
- bile tak dengar sound sendiri.. die up volume.. bile tak dengar orang lain nye sound... die komplen plak...
- Kadang sound jadi tak clear tiba2 ade sebab... contohnya..
a) jari terkena volume control
b) tune lari
c) Main tak clean
d) petikan instrument tak konsisten
e) Setting effect/gain yang over or tak kena tempat...
- Metal Zone Pasir + High Volume/gain
Drum
- time sound check die ketuk rilek... tapi time live bleh hentak kuat plak... atau sebalik nye...
- Tak kisah pun orang len nyer volume dengar ker tak.. (dia punye volume lagi la tak pedulik)..
Ni semua atas pengalaman (kebodohan) aku sebelum ni..
klu ade ape2 yang silap (terasa) sila fire..
tak heran laa
setakat fire deadzid tu... setakat kat baju jer...
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| deadzid |
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| ETERNAL |
| Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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| deadzid wrote: | eh sial laa.. aku ni kuat fire org ke?
ok la ok la... aku senyap jap...
* in reading mode * |
alamak... merajuk la... 
aku joking jer la.. haha..
dah tak ganas la ko sekarang semenjak tukar genre anime rock ni..
metal mane leh emo...
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| poundcake |
| Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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sapa2 yg berjaya pakai baju api2 kira dah menuju kepada keberjayaan hehe...cabut..
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| GryMlock |
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Izzi : guitarist skrg aku pakai khidmat member2 gak. Fendi, guitarist band Lovely Carnation and dia main utk band called Statik as well. So skrg drummer, bassist and guitarist 3-3 kat jb. senang sket nak soh diorang jam and buat lagu. dulu drum and bass jek kat jb. bila soh jam, kelaut jadi.. sampai pi jam lagu mawi pulak layan kepala.
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| Charvello |
| Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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| aku pun nak share my experience about menggelabah atas stage...sampai la ni pun ada..tapi last few years worst la! memang sampai haru biru jadinyer...1 time aku kene perform untuk annual dinner..kat hotel..cam biasa lagi sejam nak perform aku dak menggelabah..macam nak blackout jer rasa. masa aku nak naik stage tu, stage manager dia (bassist kumpulan Spring, kata dia) perasan kegelabahan aku...dia cakap aku..."rockers mana mau risau pemende bro..kasi belasah jer...jadik ke tak, kite kan rockers??!!..ko naik sana ko tenung mata mata diorang yang kat bawah tu..diorang tek der lebih apa dari kite yg rock ni...." fuhh...sampai la ni aku pakai kata kata azimat mamat ni...berkesan beb! janji rockkkkkkkk!!! |
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| Charvello |
| Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Charvello wrote: | | aku pun nak share my experience about menggelabah atas stage...sampai la ni pun ada..tapi last few years worst la! memang sampai haru biru jadinyer...1 time aku kene perform untuk annual dinner..kat hotel..cam biasa lagi sejam nak perform aku dak menggelabah..macam nak blackout jer rasa. masa aku nak naik stage tu, stage manager dia (bassist kumpulan Spring, kata dia) perasan kegelabahan aku...dia cakap aku..."rockers mana mau risau pemende bro..kasi belasah jer...jadik ke tak, kite kan rockers??!!..ko naik sana ko tenung mata mata diorang yang kat bawah tu..diorang tek der lebih apa dari kite yg rock ni...." fuhh...sampai la ni aku pakai kata kata azimat mamat ni...berkesan beb! janji rockkkkkkkk!!! |
ops terlupa, untuk brader yang bagi kata kata hikmat ni...thank you very very much bro, wherever you are! |
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| ETERNAL |
| Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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| boyroy |
| Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:11 am Post subject: perform |
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how many % of 'our guitarist' dreaming 2 perform on stage.
aku rasa kalo guitarist kita dah lama impikan tuk prform kat stage
sblm dorg realy perform,
itu munkin membantu tuk menjayakan performance diorg atas stage.
aku dah lebih 9 thn jadikan perfom on stage as my dream b4 realy perfom on stage, hasilnya agak memuaskan hati aku sndri at least.
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| Black King Bar |
| Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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@izzi : sori beb masa tu aku pun tak beberapa faham so nak explain takut salah pulak. yang aku boleh igt masa demo tu, dia ajak aku ngan member aku masuk dalam studio dia. dia suruh member aku main gitar, aku main bass &dia main drum.
1. dia suruh kitaorang setup sound ikut kepala sendiri. volume pun suka hati kitaorang jugak. so apa lagi.. haha... then bila suma dah siap. kitaorang main satu riff.
2. bila kami main sama2. ketiga2 instrument bunyi kuat. tapi tak tahu apende sebab tak jelas. nak kata tak balance sume dapat dengar bunyi tapi bising macam tu je. tak best langsung. lepas tu dia baru lah dia start adjust sound gitar punya frekuensi (dia ejas kat POD merah tu). sama gak dengan bass. (adjust kat EQ).
3. bila dia dah siap adjust. tetiba baru kitaorang dapat dengar semua benda yang kitaorang main. bunyi mcm full gila. cun.
4. masa ni lah baru aku tau main muzik ni makin lama main pening kepala. bukan setakat bila dah reti goreng laju2, boleh jadi cun macam tu je atas stage tanpa bantuan soundman yang terer. (ni ayat2 mamat tu bkn ayat aku. hahahha). |
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| eniQma |
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 ..terpana kejap aku...artikel yg hebat!
apa lagi!!!
leh jd sticky nih!
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