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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Jiro,

takleh download file la...maybe from China they blocked this site...

any other alternative sites?

thanks.

fuyooo 2 tahun...bila nak upgrade TUBE mic ke model TST? or TSR active ribbon or TSV2? kalau nak testing contact je dealers MY-MIC yg. hansem dan macho tu...


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eh... bagus la cadangan mamat ni...
bleh la mic lama ko tolak kat aku murah2...
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:36 pm    Post subject: heheh Reply with quote



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hjehehehe cadangan nak membeli tuh ada.. tapi rilek dulu kot hahaha nak kene beli bende yg lain nih... hahaha lenkali kalau bagi suggestion jgn kuat kuat, nanti ETERNAL tuh sokong je hhahaha

aku dah try link tuh ok je.. maybe tuh la kot kat China kene banned ke , jap aku cuba register kat tempat lain dan upload balik.. heheh
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alternative link for Let It Go:

http://rapidshare.com/files/296826432/Let_it_go_mix.mp3.html
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Jiro,

this link boleh download...cool...

ni macam lagu teaser...kasi la dgr...full song...with full instruments...jgn la malu2..

THANKS!

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:25 pm    Post subject: hahah Reply with quote



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ada semua yg with accoustic version suara sedap.. yg with full instrument suara tak sedap.. lagi pun suara dah ada FX so quite not a proper example.. takpe..soon enough i will upload the full one Smile~
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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thanks Jiro...

lagu ada juga yg sdh buat.. skit je dalam 3 mcm tu.. recording acoustic je.. dlm proses blajar from ur advice la ni.. hehe.. senang sngt faham la explanation tu Jiro.. Smile

ada 2 probs buat masa skrg ni Jiro..harap dpt membantu..

1.) Groove loop (cakewalk Cool tu btul2 susa nak buat la.. asal je buat, timing strech. tempo berubah... pening2

2) Apasal bila saya plug in acoustic guitar ke AI input, bunyi punya la perlahan... volume dah pun full.. guna mono cable.. bahgian kiri je kuar signal... bila tukar pegi stereo cable.. lansung teda bunyii.. aishh..

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thanks for ur help Jiro..

ehhh u hav skype ke jiro?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:46 am    Post subject: heheh Reply with quote



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ure welcome rawkstar

and thanks dan congrats utk memahami apa yang di terang kan Smile


1) Groove loop yg di guna kan apa? Dan untuk apa? Untuk looping make sure kene tahu apa yg di loop kan, adakah dgn midi mapping atau pun cut paste concept.. kalau cut paste loop yg sama (sampai habis) make sure first bar kene tepat even a short metronome accuracy. Dan baru loop till 4 bar utk pasti kan accuracy dia.. kekurang detail dari u mmg susah nak explain.. ada example tak?


2) OK, berkenaan AI, bole tahu AI apa yg di guna kan? Guitar pula di proses dari external preamp atau pun ada guna VSTi macam guitar rig?

Masalah cable nih utk apa? Input atau Output? cable dari guitar ke AI atau dari AI ke speaker? Make sure dulu yang ini, soalan tuh tak lengkap

First check windows recording control kat control panel/multimedia .
Check setting semua betul utk Playback dan Recording
Check Line In volume
Kalau dah full masih juga slow, cuba tekan pada advance dan thick Mic Boost



Kalau Windows recording control disable (di sebab kan AI ada menggunakan software atau driver tersendiri) check pada AI setting Smile

Kalau AI ok, check VSTi setting kalau ada guna.

Bunyi perlahan.. bagai mana pula masa record? Graph wave dia normal atau pun masih juga kecil je. Kalau graph dia normal mean by takda bunyi distort atau high low freq maybe kene check balik AI mixer dan juga check VSTi setting jikalau anda guna. Check macam mana input di proses kan macam record, dry input atau sebalik nye. Kalau AI memang utk recording purpose sila rujuk ke manual book.

Bro rawkstar... kalau guna mono cable mmg la sebelah je bunyi, sebab dia 1 signal output... sebab itu kalau kat AI punya analog output dia ada 2 socket, itu utk speaker yg guna mono cable. Treat 1 left 1 right Smile so utk output di galak kan la mengguna kan Stereo cable. Kalau speaker guna stereo output jack.. plug in je kat headphone nye socket.. sebab analog output preferable utk mono cable.. kalau still guna kan analog socket utk stereo maybe either one yg berbunyi atau 2 2 berbunyi tapi u akan detect level sound tak sama, so tak worth it and maybe bole rosak kan ur AI Smile


Bila tukar ke stereo cable takda bunyi..utk apa nih? dari guitar ke AI atau AI ke output?.. ok perlu kan lebih detail.. macam mana dan di mana stereo cable tuh di plug in, mean guna kan extension jack kerana size yang berbeza ? .. Smile

dan kalau bole pasti kan cable tuh size yg di guna kan ehh.. tau kan beza mono dan stereo? mono ada 1 line marked (1 signal in) dan stereo ada 2 line marked (2 signal in) Smile kalau yg guna kan extension sebab kan size berbeza dgn socket in, make sure dan pasti kan... stereo cable guna kan mono extension jack is possible, mean from 2 signal to 1. tapi dari mono cable ke stereo extension tak bole, itu ada kebanyakan terjadi sebelah je speaker bunyi dan sebagai nya sebab tetap 1 signal je masuk, most probably maybe R atau L je bunyi.



***yang atas mono dan yg bawah stereo..lihat line yg bermarked hitam. itu yg membezakan mono dan stereo.


***yang ini adalah stereo extension adapter, utk stereo jack yg bersize kecil ke besar Smile



***lebih lanjut tentang cable


moga sikit nih dapat membantu.. Smile

lebih lanjut kesini je: http://www.guitar.com/hetjr/blog
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bravo..
nice explaination..


keep it up bro..
if it is more technical you would be like ultraman...
be more presentative & graphical.. you can become like atuk deadzid.. haha
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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lol...deadzid kena lagi...hehe
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Salute to you bro Jiro for the feedback... Smile

Using sonar 8


1) contoh: bila record audio (keyboard) untuk satu part intro at track one, bila mau buat groove loop, time stretch berubah.. x sama dgn bunyi yg sepatutnya..playback OK - apabila groove loop lain pla jadi.. (time record mula2 tu)..mcmtulah.. bukan copy n paste.. live record.. nnt saya cuba upload kan bunyi tu..

kalo record midi pla ... kadang okay kadang time groove loop tu berubah juga.. sama mcm probs audio record tu.. rasanya saya x set tempo yg btul ke? hehe..

Jiro... i really got a probs on this grroove loop stuff. i really need a help on this.. sekarang ni saya main jer the same running 4 chords 3 times.. kalo ble groove loop kan senang..

masih blur habis tentang Groove loop AND Audio Snap in sonar 8,

saya x masuk any vsti .. jst a clean record

2) KEADAAN KETIKA ITU..hehe

GUITAR ACOUSTIC with EQ ---> masuk ke AI (PHONIC FIREFLY302 FW 3 analouge inpt - 2 analogue output memang khas untuk recording) input using 1/4" mono cable----> output ke monitor speaker that using mono cables too..

All cables is good i guess.. sebab saya skrg ni record acoustic je guna condenser mic and of coz MY-MIC hehe.. semua okay..AI input output ada bunyi suma... lagipun saya record audio pun dr keyboard masuk direct ke AI input .... suma bunyi pun okay so i assumed that the AI n all the Cables is in a good condition...

Mic boost n adjust line tu x test lagi.. hehe nnt saya cuba bila smp ruma nnt..

Signal bar n wave sngt la kecil..

saya maksudkan Jiro saya dah cuba gunakan stereo cablee dr guitar acoustic sambung ke AI... no sounds at all.. ermm kalau masuk mono memang left je kan yg bunyi... tu la sa pegi lak beli stereo cable tu.. rupa2nya lansung tak bunyi pla hehe.. Smile

ni sbg rujukan tentang AI tu jiro http://www.phonic.com/en/audio-interface/firefly-302-plus.html

guitar electro acoustic http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/74076

thanks Jiro... million thanksss..

ada YM ke Gmail ke Skype kerr.. msn kee Jiro.. nak beguru ni ngan awak.. hehe
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you need a converter in order to convert your mono to dual-mono (not stereo)...

i have the similar problem last time..
it is weird..

my AI active channel is on the right...
so if i use mono cable to plug into my AI stereo port..
only the left one will produce sound..

if i use stereo cable.. there is no sound coming out..
as checked.. my guitar active channel is on the left..
which now conflicted..

summary..
guitar output goes to left - AI input received right...

the weird thing is why the left input on my AI is not working even i use stereo cable.. makes me wonder..
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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ETERNAL wrote:
you need a converter in order to convert your mono to dual-mono (not stereo)...

i have the similar problem last time..
it is weird..

my AI active channel is on the right...
so if i use mono cable to plug into my AI stereo port..
only the left one will produce sound..

if i use stereo cable.. there is no sound coming out..
as checked.. my guitar active channel is on the left..
which now conflicted..

summary..
guitar output goes to left - AI input received right...

the weird thing is why the left input on my AI is not working even i use stereo cable.. makes me wonder..


bro eternal... IC IC..

its good to hear that u've settled dwn the probs.. BTW what is the CONVERTER looks like ahh? some kind of a device.. ?

thanks 4 ur reply bro ETERNAL Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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rawkstar,

kalau AI input 1 & 2 kat belakang tu STEREO, biasanya kau cucuk masuk LEFT input for mono signals....which should be input 1.

pelik betul AI yg kau pakai ni. your AI takde software control interface ke? for input output selection, STEREO or MONO inputs?

anyway, dont give up!

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as i can see your situation
guitar (mono) -> Cable (mono) -> AI (Stereo - left only) -> DAW (stereo - left only)


guitar (mono) -> Cable (mono) -> AI (Dual-Mono) -> DAW (stereo - left only)
- Check AI channel setup... assign both input channel to the first input port. (refer manual - channel assignment)

or

guitar (mono) -> Cable (mono) -> AI (Stereo - left only) -> amp sim VST (mono to stereo) -> DAW (stereo)

or

guitar (mono) -> Cable (mono) -> AI (Stereo - left only) -> DAW (Mono/Dual Mono)
- set the track as mono or dual mono

or

guitar (mono) -> Cable (mono) -> cable splitter (mono to dual mono) -> AI (Dual Mono) -> DAW (Dual Mono)


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:16 am    Post subject: heheh Reply with quote



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ok sorry for late reply babe hahah busy skit hehe

so berkenaan dgn looping issue ni, selalu nye terjadi bila kau stretch kan dia ada masalah tak ikut beat atau tempo. Kau kene make sure before stretch tuh dia nya clip beat dah set utk nearest accuracy. Selalu standard akan letak clip fow 4/4 which normal time signature. Jadi set kan clip kau supaya dia bole detect utk beat 1,2,4,8,16,32 (kalau dalam cubase dia ada quantize)

nak cite panjang mmg sgt la panjang, so tak bole la kasi best solution unless kau rajin membaca..nih ada link yg harap membantu

http://www.postaudio.co.uk/education/computermusic/groove_clips.html

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Untuk masalah bunyi tuh.. cuba buat macam mana bro ETERNAL suggest tu.. Smile

cuba check kau punya AI mixer interface software , mesti ada punya..

Most of the time kalau bole biar input guna kan mono cable. Dan utk output terserah. Kalau kau ada monitor speaker, buat each L and R guna single mono and plug in je terus kat analogue output.

Dan nak tau gak, kau record kat DAW guna mono track atau stereo track? Sometimes bila kau guna mono cable tapi record stereo track, dia akan record sebelah je signal.. sebab tuh ada dual mono concept.

Elok pakai mono utk input seperti guitar sebab from apa yg aku experience dan byk membaca, stereo akan eliminate certain freq but doesnt make any much different.

Dan apa maksud kau Guitar with EQ? ada pakai boss padel EQ ke? dah try bypass EQ tuh dulu?

aku tak familiar dgn kau punya AI.. tapi as u mention earlier, kau ada cakap yg kau record accoustic, dia slow.. so kau cakap record micing dgn MY-MIC.. mic nih kene ada phantom power +48v .. AI kau mmg support bende nih, cuma sebab tak familiar maybe kau kene check mixer AI utk turn on kan +48v tuh atau mmg dia akan auto on, itu tak pasti, check manual is the best.

Bila record slow, graph wave pun slow.. cuba boost graph tuh 6db, bunyi distort tak, atau ada freq yg pecah.. sebab kalau kau boost kan graph tuh, bunyi ok, thats a problem from input volume process. Kalau bunyi distort after boost, might be ada problem dgn input kau at all..

hope dapat dengar example dan kalau bole screenshot kan sekali kau nye setup mixer dan DAW Smile

moga membantu..

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