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jeeli

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:41 pm Post subject:

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btul tu ... Bukan timelees je , ultraman, afiqme, mojo dll bnyk membantu ... Tq all ... Aku pon dh dpt gitar yg sesuai utk metal sound ni .... Info dri afiqme , mahogany .. Emg81 ... / sd ... Sound nya tak tenggelam tak mcm ibanez gio ... Aku dh pon beli v401DX ltd/esp ...

METAL-X

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:16 pm Post subject:

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salam,,,aku main megadeth jugak skrg nih,,rhythm part mustaine la,,
aku guna jackson dk2 japan pro series,,seymour duncan tb4 (trembucker),,
pedal aku guna Metal Muff + Boss Ge7 (equalizer), bole la dpt sound
mustaine skit2,,,mustaine pnya sound tak berat cam metallica,,,sound dia agak
kpd 80's rock (rujuk pd album lama2),,,agak susah jgk la nk cari sound yg tepat,,,dia guna brg ribu2,,kita guna ratus2 je mana mau sama kan,,,
rasenye itu jer la yg aku nak kongsi,, kalo nk tgk aku jem megadeth bole
xde hal punya,,,chowwww,,
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:00 pm Post subject:

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fish wrote:

Wah Timelessness, byk betul ilmu yg ko curahkan. Boleh berguru skit? Cool

Fish : alamak sifu gt8.. ahahah.. ala fish aku pun byk belajar dari ko ler.. Laughing

Metal X : ade gak aku ikut tgk membe membe jamming megadeth..best.. belasahhhhhhhhhhhh!!...ahhaha
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:41 am Post subject:

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[... Aku dh pon beli v401DX ltd/esp ...[/quote]

- haaha dah dpt guitar .. ada duit semua blh jadi haha
- moga moga dpt main metal dgn selesa ..
- terkezut gak aku baca.. ada org on compresson amp blow ... gini kena cadang kat pembuat multi effect kena remove benda ni kalu x byk ler amp rabak kalu on , pastu bleh turun herganya hihiihihi Laughing

, tapi untung lak pd tukang repair amp.. sbb amp blow hihiih Laughing

gurau ajer....
- aku on drive amp ajer hihihi Laughing

jeeli

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 2:24 am Post subject:

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lepas beli ltd v401DX tuh sehari kalu aku lmbt sabo skit dpt jackson demelitions king V ... apa nk buat time tunggu mmg tak jumpa ... dh beli ada peluang lain laks ... tak de ler bnyk duit ... kumpol2 duit skit ... alang2 ambik yg puas ati ... tpi rabak poket ... Laughing

tpi V401DX nih pon ok gak ... mahogany , emg81 , ... cuma jari nih jer , tak lek blah .... hehe ...
tang sustain / compressor tuh mmg aku tau ler ... tuh sb nk tanya tuh ... citer pasai bule blow kan amp tuh , aku tgk komen2 dri youtube ... btul ker tak , tuh tak pasti ... Wink

T|melessness

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 2:51 pm Post subject:

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v401dx nih mmg lawa.. rm4000-rm5000 tak lari kot? f/rose ori ke bro?
ltd mustaine tak silap aku dekat 6K kan? Very Happy

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jeeli

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:54 pm Post subject:

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floyd rose special ... under license punya ... aku pon bukan tau pakai tremolo tuh .. hehe ... rege ? hehe .. tak smp pon 4k-5k ... hehe ... baru item ..
gitar kalo rege 4k-5k baik ambik ESP jer .. atau jackson ... kt msia mmg mahal giler ... berbelah bg jugak masa nk beli tuh ... tmbh skit dpt gibson LP studio dlm 3k lbh jer ... tpi seken ... sb nk rasa feel flying V .. tuh yg ambik V401dx (baru punya) ... bru sehari beli , jumpa lak jackson demeltions king V rege lbh kurang dgn v401dx nih ... galak skit ler ...
ltd mustaine tak jumpa .. kalu ada mmg sambor ...

ultraman_cosmo

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:57 am Post subject:

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Off topic sebenarnya ne... kakkakaka.

Kalo kita deep into the music sebenarnya tone ne kan jadi universal.
- kalo kita nak main jazz takan pakai metal nyer tone.
- lebih kurang cam tu la maksud dia.
- Kita yg suite the tone ikut aper style kita nak main.
- aper tune, aper genre.
- sometime kreativiti tak bermaksud kita boleh hantam kromok.
- ada curtain guide line supaya tak jauh sangat terpesong nya.

Gua stuju juga kalo guitarist ada dia sendiri nyer tone tapi kalo dia main dalam satu band, ada baik nya the whole band ada dia sendiri nyer tone.

Walo cam mana pun pada gua style main tu lagi penting. Mean katala kita minat hendrix and u study the tone tapi tak study the teknik maka tak kemana juga. Tapi kalo u study the hendrix style guitar play maybe u pakai les paul pun still sound macam hendrix.
- Kalo kita perhatikan ada banyak meterial yg ajar macam hendrix style play, malmstein type play or mana mana guitarist legend nyer play, semuanya akan refer to thier style and not the tone.
- Style main ne melibatkan how diorang construct the chord, the scale, the teknik, how diorang blend or inject other music influence maybe from classic music or jazz into the thier own meterial. or macam mana diorang modify the progression to match diorang nyer meterial.
- benda ne sangat luas dan biasanya guitarist confuse.
- That is what kita perlu carik and bukannya carik the tone.
- From style-style or gabungan style yg kita pelajari, secara otomatik kita akan faham the tone, bila masa kita nak banyak bass, bila masa kita nak banyak mid or bila masa kita nak violin tone and kat mana kita nak banyak drive. Bila masa nak dirty tone or clean lime tone.
- then we build up u punya style dan tone dari kefahaman tersebut.
- Once u dah memahami how SRV nyer style main, otomatik u akan tahu aper tone diperlukan utk itu, u akan faham aper amp nak pakai or aper setup nak buat.

Correct me am i wrong.
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:25 pm Post subject:

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Guh banyak betul info... best best... aku saya pun tengah dalam quest untuk mengenal tone and sound.... banyak yang saya belajar buat hari ni. thanks
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T|melessness

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:25 am Post subject:

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Aku pun nak off topic la.. hehehe.. actually relate dgn ape yg bro otroman ckp.. berkenaan dgn progressions chords..aku tak berape reti nak explain tapi..!!!
ha meh aku bagi contoh satu band idola aku.. nama Cynic.. korang download la ikut celah mana pun janji listen.. diorang nih asal nye teknikel deathmetal band (dlm demo 1988)..
tapi bila 1st album release (1993 - Focus) dorang dah jadi progressive deathmetal band..music dorang gambung deathmetal+jazz.. mana yg tak minat deathmetal tuh abaikan la yg heavy parts.. cuma dengar progressions chords yg dorang main.. camner dorang gambung jazz dgn metal tuh yg mahal..actually Cynic nih tak heavy mana pun music nye.. 60% jazz, 40% metal..tapi bagi aku dorang genius buat lagu..

dah dga nanti bagi feedback..aku gerenti korang cam tak percaya album Focus tuh release thn 1993 (16thn).. lately byk band2 baru nak buat cam cynic nih.. tapi dah terOver = berserabut!

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mojo_dmarzionar

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:12 pm Post subject:

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jeeli wrote:

-betul betul betul.. x tau or kurang tau bertanya.. ko tak tau aku pung x tau hahahha.....jgn marah
- aku x reti nak beritau kat ko mcm.. tapi yg pasti seperti yg ditulis oleh David M.Brewster Compressor n Sustain nie bukan ler satu effect yg akan menpengaruhi atau menukarkan satu2 sound tu mcm flanger ke,tapi dia memanpat or padatkan lagi sound . di samping ada sustain..
tu yg aku paham
-bab blow 2 maybe level tinggi sgt kot.. aku x pernah pakai boss multieffect , korg ,digitech,zoom,line6 pernah pakai .. so semua aku on benda tu ..tapi x tinggi .. paling tinggi level 3 ajer.. x pernah pulok amp blow.. x kira leer amp ape aku cucuk.
-ibarat mcm nie ler jeli .. meriam buluh.. kalu sound power n over kan meletup bukan takat satu kg gegar dgn tukang main ajer dah k.o sbb pecah buluh tu hahaha..
- pakai ajer benda dah ada hehe blh cuba but jgn up level tinggi dah try 1 dulu tgk apa beze sound keluar
-tu pendangan aku ler dr ape aku tau.. mungkin org lain boleh explain bagi ko lebih paham
p/s zaman sekarang ada lagi ke main meriam buluh hehehee... Laughing

jeeli

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:38 pm Post subject:

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ari tuh aku godeh2 la mcm ko ckp tuh . Aku turn smp 65% sustain,65% level ... Ada bnyk beza la .. Tpi utk aku std tak de class punya mmg cukup tak yah pki sustain tuh ... Aku main dlm bilik jer bro ... Bukan ada band ke nk gi studio ... Layan diri , lepaskn tension kt umah jer ... Stagement mcm nih tmbh ilmu skit . Tq sharing ...

eniQma

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:51 pm Post subject:

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T|melessness wrote:

Bro Jeeli ko ckp megadeth aje.. tak specific kat sound gitaris yang mana satu.. tapi personally bagi aku dari cari sound d.mastaine baik ko bekerja keras cari sound marty friedman..lagi berbaloi..

mmg betul mcm bro afiqme kata pikap Emg mmg less tone.. pada aku cam tarak tone langsung...hehehe.. aku recommend ko pakai jackson Kelly + kasi install seymour duncan screaming demon (dulu scott ian Anthrax, dimebage darell penah pakai pikap ni)

kita boleh compare terang terang kat sini..
kirk hammet (esp + emg) Vs Marty friedman (jackson + seymour Duncan)

bagi aku kirk hammet tewas mudah dari semua aspek.. termasuk tone guitar dia!

note: pendapat & citarasa telinga aku aje.. org lain maybe lain pulak pendapat nye..

SETUJU!!
huhu friedman nye sound lagi better dari mustaine...
tp pepon..mustaine rules hahahaha
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:03 pm Post subject:

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eniQma wrote:

T|melessness wrote:

SETUJU!!
huhu friedman nye sound lagi better dari mustaine...
tp pepon..mustaine rules hahahaha

friedman punye tone dlm solo album die sedap le .. music 4 speeding, dragon kiss bla3 ... tp dlm megadeth record tone die laa yg aku dgr paling tak sedap ... megadeth at their best tone bile ko dgr album united abomination ... nih kalau cerita tone laa ...

btw .. kalau org refer megadeth, cume org2 yg pelik je refer tone marty .. hehe ... coz 90% of the stuffs dari mustaine .. hehe
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 9:56 pm Post subject:

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afiqme wrote:

SETUJU! setuju buat kali yg kedua!! dalam megadeth, friedman kena akur kata2 mastermind huhhuhu kalau tak, nti kena kick time dave tgh high huhuu..paling best sound marty ngan style die mase dragon's kiss..yg lepas2 tu dia dah byk xperiment la pulak...huhuhu

afiqme wrote:

btw .. kalau org refer megadeth, cume org2 yg pelik je refer tone marty .. hehe ... coz 90% of the stuffs dari mustaine .. hehe

Bro T|melessness...ada ka patut dia kata kita pelik....huhuhu
Rockfire ni... Twisted Evil

btw..bagi aku plak sound megadeth ni xle sedap sgt...tp style lagu die yg kasi die sedap..(bagi telinga aku la..)...n campur suara mustaine yg meneran tak berapa sedap tu..huhuhu
ramai jugak yg kata Metallica yg best...tapi bagi aku Megadeth ada gaya sendiri...(kecuali album 1st la..huhu) ape2 pon itu la uniknye megadeth hawhawhaw...
mcm album youthanasia la..sume ckp lagu dlm album tu...lembik..tapi bg aku itu la style megadeth huhu so kalau aku metallica?megadeth? aku pilih megadeth..hahahar
tp walaupon aku minat megadeth..aku taknak sound aku mcm megadeth...sbb aku bukan dave mustaine apalagi daud bin musta'in
biar la aku ada sound sendiri..sedap tak sedap, itu sound aku..huhu itu IMHO laa so jgn amik hati la sesape ek...

eh..abg2 mod sekalian adakah aku sudah off topic? kalau ye..sori arr..ehehehehe he he...he he ehem..
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