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| salammmm |
 Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:11 pm Post subject: tlg aku...aku beginner |
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salam semua...aku baru je kat cni...aku ade bnde nk tye...
1.aku nk jd pmain lead yg bgos...ape yg aku kne blaja????? aku ade dgr org ckp blaja scale...aku ad gak blaja n hafal scale cket2...tp aku x phm la kegunaan scale..cmne nk gne???
2.aku bru bli ibanez gio(bkn bru,2nd hand)...brader tu da tkar kpd license floyd rose...antara ori dan license floyd rose mana yg bgos???
dan bila aku bnyk main tremolo tu dia jd longgar..so aku kene bkak lapik blakng,ktatkn balik gne allen key??? tu normal ke utk gtar yg ade floyd rose trem??? |
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| eniQma |
| Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: tlg aku...aku beginner |
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| salammmm wrote: |
2.aku bru bli ibanez gio(bkn bru,2nd hand)...brader tu da tkar kpd license floyd rose...antara ori dan license floyd rose mana yg bgos???
dan bila aku bnyk main tremolo tu dia jd longgar..so aku kene bkak lapik blakng,ktatkn balik gne allen key??? tu normal ke utk gtar yg ade floyd rose trem??? |
soklan no 1 - tu biar otai yg jawab...huhuhu
soklan no 2 - Mesti la ori yg bagus...license ni..kadang2 material nye tak bagus...yg ko ko kata longgar tu, part mane? Tremolo Arm ke? ke trem tu sndiri...?
kalau ikut pngalaman aku yg tak penah pakai orinye FR ni...huhu aku bukak pastu aku ketatkan sume allen key nye..kat bwh arm tu..ko ketatkan(kalau kes ko sama ngan aku laa)...ko kena cek tgk sana sini...gak...
bro2 otai kalau aku salah betulkan ye...
TQ
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| omarjamaludin |
| Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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cuba start main2 dengan C major scale dulu 
pastu boleh belajar minor scale A minor ke
pastu boleh tengok relationship between A minor scale ngan C major scale and belajar concept modes
pastu dari scale tu boleh belajar concept chords dan camne nak buat chord ikut notes2 dalam scale..
tapi start la dulu C major scale..slow2.. do re mi fa so la ti do!
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| salammmm |
| Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 11:32 am Post subject: Re: tlg aku...aku beginner |
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soklan no 2 - Mesti la ori yg bagus...license ni..kadang2 material nye tak bagus...yg ko ko kata longgar tu, part mane? Tremolo Arm ke? ke trem tu sndiri...?
kalau ikut pngalaman aku yg tak penah pakai orinye FR ni...huhu aku bukak pastu aku ketatkan sume allen key nye..kat bwh arm tu..ko ketatkan(kalau kes ko sama ngan aku laa)...ko kena cek tgk sana sini...gak...
bro2 otai kalau aku salah betulkan ye...
TQ[/quote]
yg aku kate longgar tu kat lubang nk msuk tremolo arm...bila sllu main tremolo lubang tu jd loose...so aku kne psg tremolo arm x brp ketat la...law da jd loose cmtu tpaksa la bkak lapik blkg,then ktatkan.. |
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| salammmm |
| Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 11:36 am Post subject: |
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| tq bro omar jamaludin...sbnanye aku da main gtar 3 taun da...slma aku main aku cari goreng pkai telinga je...hentam je...hehe...ni bru nk blaja scra serius la... |
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| eniQma |
| Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 11:44 am Post subject: Re: tlg aku...aku beginner |
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| salammmm wrote: |
yg aku kate longgar tu kat lubang nk msuk tremolo arm...bila sllu main tremolo lubang tu jd loose...so aku kne psg tremolo arm x brp ketat la...law da jd loose cmtu tpaksa la bkak lapik blkg,then ktatkan.. |
ooo betul latu...sama mcm kes aku la...kalau main lama2 arm dia jadi lonngar sampai leh goyang kan?mcm nak tcabut?
so da setel la ni...lagi satu ko kene cek...(klu masalah blanjutan) plate(pemegang spring kat bwh trem tu) yg bawah tu...kdg2 itu pon poblem gak...aku sampai kena bukak saddle utk lock balik huhuhu
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| wiwit |
| Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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| salammmm wrote: | | tq bro omar jamaludin...sbnanye aku da main gtar 3 taun da...slma aku main aku cari goreng pkai telinga je...hentam je...hehe...ni bru nk blaja scra serius la... |
-pd aku kedua2nya penting..scale n heart pon kene ada bila main solo....
+kalo nak phm konsep solo by scale cuba running C Major n Aminor coz C Major relatives kpd A minor dan sebaliknya...
Try main progression chord CM,GM,Am,FM repeat...Pastu solo dlm scale C major n A minor...(jgn pattern kan secara jujur)maksudnya ko running je note kat fret tue janji ianya ada dlm scale CM n A minor..
-After that try cari scale pentatonic+blues...try main 12 bar blues use G pentatonic...nnti lama2 ko phm apa tue scale dlm solo..n apa tue solo ikut progression chords
p/s:Jgn terlalu gila ngn scale coz bleh ajar kita jadi robot..sebaiknya biarlah ada kedua2nya....scale nie cuma penyelamat dr kita terpele'ot atau tersasar dr solo(sumbang)...yg penting soul kene ada....x pyh ambik jauh2..tgk joe wings..main rock but solo byk base on pentatonik..tp still best nak dgr....sbbnye soul dlm solo dia tue... |
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| eniQma |
| Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| wiwit wrote: |
p/s:Jgn terlalu gila ngn scale coz bleh ajar kita jadi robot..sebaiknya biarlah ada kedua2nya....scale nie cuma penyelamat dr kita terpele'ot atau tersasar dr solo(sumbang)...yg penting soul kene ada....x pyh ambik jauh2..tgk joe wings..main rock but solo byk base on pentatonik..tp still best nak dgr....sbbnye soul dlm solo dia tue... |
Yup aku stuju..belaja scale mmg kena blaja..
tpi main kena by heart...tp kalau solo takat turun naik scale or pentatonic pon tak best juga...joe wing tu dia pandai, dia Improvise lg ape yg dia tahu...
-amik masa...bertenang, dgr backing track tu...fikir melodi dalam hati...pastu luahkan kat jari jemari ko tu...kadang2 solo ni tak payah perfect..janji ikhlas...mesti menusuk kalbu punya...
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| wiwit |
| Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| eniQma wrote: | | wiwit wrote: |
p/s:Jgn terlalu gila ngn scale coz bleh ajar kita jadi robot..sebaiknya biarlah ada kedua2nya....scale nie cuma penyelamat dr kita terpele'ot atau tersasar dr solo(sumbang)...yg penting soul kene ada....x pyh ambik jauh2..tgk joe wings..main rock but solo byk base on pentatonik..tp still best nak dgr....sbbnye soul dlm solo dia tue... |
Yup aku stuju..belaja scale mmg kena blaja..
tpi main kena by heart...tp kalau solo takat turun naik scale or pentatonic pon tak best juga...joe wing tu dia pandai, dia Improvise lg ape yg dia tahu...
-amik masa...bertenang, dgr backing track tu...fikir melodi dalam hati...pastu luahkan kat jari jemari ko tu...kadang2 solo ni tak payah perfect..janji ikhlas...mesti menusuk kalbu punya... |
-sbb tue aku bgtau td....scale just utk guide...nak selamat..jgn pattern jujur.running note with soul n feel...utamakan bending techniqs...biar lemak,berkrim n disukai ramai....try la...runnning scale dgn bending at the certain parts....jgn jujur dok taram scale naik n turun....nnti jadilah solo 'kotak'...hahahahaha.... |
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| eniQma |
| Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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| wiwit wrote: | | eniQma wrote: | | wiwit wrote: |
p/s:Jgn terlalu gila ngn scale coz bleh ajar kita jadi robot..sebaiknya biarlah ada kedua2nya....scale nie cuma penyelamat dr kita terpele'ot atau tersasar dr solo(sumbang)...yg penting soul kene ada....x pyh ambik jauh2..tgk joe wings..main rock but solo byk base on pentatonik..tp still best nak dgr....sbbnye soul dlm solo dia tue... |
Yup aku stuju..belaja scale mmg kena blaja..
tpi main kena by heart...tp kalau solo takat turun naik scale or pentatonic pon tak best juga...joe wing tu dia pandai, dia Improvise lg ape yg dia tahu...
-amik masa...bertenang, dgr backing track tu...fikir melodi dalam hati...pastu luahkan kat jari jemari ko tu...kadang2 solo ni tak payah perfect..janji ikhlas...mesti menusuk kalbu punya... |
-sbb tue aku bgtau td....scale just utk guide...nak selamat..jgn pattern jujur.running note with soul n feel...utamakan bending techniqs...biar lemak,berkrim n disukai ramai....try la...runnning scale dgn bending at the certain parts....jgn jujur dok taram scale naik n turun....nnti jadilah solo 'kotak'...hahahahaha.... |
hahahaha solo berkotak2...
kalau lom terer, cuba la guna "idgham mencari..bukan idgham ma'alghunah tau" cari laaa melodi yg boleh masuk...selitkan sikit feel...
main la sesorang dalam bilik..pektis sampai perfect...
practice always make perfect!!kata omputih laaa uhhuhuhu
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| salammmm |
| Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:07 am Post subject: |
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| thnx kpd suma yg membantu...anda suma mmg otai...haha |
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| salammmm |
| Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:10 am Post subject: |
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| wiwit wrote: | | salammmm wrote: | | tq bro omar jamaludin...sbnanye aku da main gtar 3 taun da...slma aku main aku cari goreng pkai telinga je...hentam je...hehe...ni bru nk blaja scra serius la... |
-pd aku kedua2nya penting..scale n heart pon kene ada bila main solo....
+kalo nak phm konsep solo by scale cuba running C Major n Aminor coz C Major relatives kpd A minor dan sebaliknya...
Try main progression chord CM,GM,Am,FM repeat...Pastu solo dlm scale C major n A minor...(jgn pattern kan secara jujur)maksudnya ko running je note kat fret tue janji ianya ada dlm scale CM n A minor..
-After that try cari scale pentatonic+blues...try main 12 bar blues use G pentatonic...nnti lama2 ko phm apa tue scale dlm solo..n apa tue solo ikut progression chords
p/s:Jgn terlalu gila ngn scale coz bleh ajar kita jadi robot..sebaiknya biarlah ada kedua2nya....scale nie cuma penyelamat dr kita terpele'ot atau tersasar dr solo(sumbang)...yg penting soul kene ada....x pyh ambik jauh2..tgk joe wings..main rock but solo byk base on pentatonik..tp still best nak dgr....sbbnye soul dlm solo dia tue... |
tima kasih bnyk2 brader otai... |
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| eniQma |
| Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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| salammmm wrote: | | thnx kpd suma yg membantu...anda suma mmg otai...haha |
sama2...tp yg otai, en.wiwit ngan bro omar kite je..aku bukan...
lom daftar jd otai...serius...
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| ultraman_cosmo |
| Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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Masa awal awal gua kenal scale dulu, memang belajar lebih kurang camtu sebab nak biasakan diri dengan scale yg digunakan.
- keadah ne lebih kepada scale dulu and kemudian aper chord dan progression berkaitan.
- biasanya kita kan cramp kat satu jer scale dan kurang bebas.
- tapi bila dah sampai satu tahap kita kena main chord scale
- keadah chord or chord voicing then baru kita fikirkan scale or modes mana nak pakai.
- keadah chord scale pada gua lebih versetail dan boleh bentuk banyak style music, banyak lagi mood dan very smooth.
- keangkadang Cmaj I-IV-V boleh bertukar jadi I-iv-v menyebakan Cmaj scaling tak kena langsong dengan chord pada iv dan v.
- gua tak sempat, nanti ada kelapangan la kita ceta.
- Ada cikgu music dalam iband ne, harap dia boleh bagi tunjuk ajar.
- Aku jenis main atas tembok dan station bas, maybe tak sesuai memerangkan bebenda cam ne.
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| wiwit |
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| eniQma wrote: | | salammmm wrote: | | thnx kpd suma yg membantu...anda suma mmg otai...haha |
sama2...tp yg otai, en.wiwit ngan bro omar kite je..aku bukan...
lom daftar jd otai...serius... |
sejak bila la aku jadi otai...hehe..kita semua sama je....xde lebih xde kurang......sama2 masih mencari dan terus mencari.... |
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