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| rybyt123 |
 Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:59 pm Post subject: guitar string tension(please layan) |
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aku nak tanya ckit pada otai smua.
aku ada gitar kapok murah la dia punye string tension terlalu tinggi sampai nak main pun payah.
adakah ini normal utuk cheap gitar atau aku salah tune ataupun kene lama praktis.
aku dah lima tahun main gitar.
mintak tolong bagi pendapat.TQ
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| eniQma |
| Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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err...tension ke action ni?
tension tali tegang sgt, gauge string salah?
action tali jauh dari fret n tinggi..?
hmm kena tunggu org lain jawab gak nih...
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| Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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guitar string tension(please layan) <-- hahaha 
anyway, aku rasa kalau pasal tension, tukar gauge yg kecik skit la... contoh: .0009 - .0042
then gunakan tuner utk tune dgn tepat...
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| rybyt123 |
| Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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to eniqma
String tegang sngat to be specific la.
thanks for replying.
by the way aku dah pakai gauge yg paling kecik.
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| rybyt123 wrote: | to eniqma
String tegang sngat to be specific la.
thanks for replying.
by the way aku dah pakai gauge yg paling kecik. |
huhuhu ye ke? orait...enjoi music!!
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| ultraman_cosmo |
| Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:33 pm Post subject: Re: guitar string tension(please layan) |
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| rybyt123 wrote: | aku nak tanya ckit pada otai smua.
aku ada gitar kapok murah la dia punye string tension terlalu tinggi sampai nak main pun payah.
adakah ini normal utuk cheap gitar atau aku salah tune ataupun kene lama praktis.
aku dah lima tahun main gitar.
mintak tolong bagi pendapat.TQ |
- biasanya kalo nak lembut boleh guna string electric guitar
- 009 dan sebagainya.
- guna string cam olyampic yg murah.
Masa aku muda remaja dulu,
- aku guna string akustic murah beli kat kedai biasa jer,
- cuma aku guna both 1st string utk tali 1 dan 2.
- string 6 tak digunakan.
- String 5 install kat tali 6.
- string 4 install kat tali 5.
- string 3 install kat tali 4.
- string 2 install kat tali 3.
- string 1 install kat tali 2
- string 1 juga install kat tali 1.
- dengan keadah ne semua tali akan less tension.
- cuma yg tegang maybe tali 1 jer.
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| boyroy |
| Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:50 am Post subject: tension tinggi |
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[quote="rybyt123"]to eniqma
String tegang sngat to be specific la.
thanks for replying.
*by the way aku dah pakai gauge yg paling kecik.[/quote]
Aku cuba jwb soalan peperiksaan, hehehe
Biasa nyer gtr tong/kapok/akustik/semi akustik, yg murah/ kdg2 yg mhl
ader masalah ini,
Itu adalah standard mass production factory la,
munkin dorg ikt standard gtr classic, kalo string classic tali pancing tu,
memang lmbut, tp akustik memang tension tinggi,
Ok la,,
punca/sebab2nya
1. string gauge dia besar
2. nut dia tinggi
3. Sadle dia tinggi terlampau
4. Neck melengkung
5. Body blkg bridge dah kembung, sbb x thn ngan string tension terlampau
Cr2 nk atasi / Mod / improvise
*by the way aku dah pakai gauge yg paling kecik
No 1. tiada kaitan
No 2. Sama ngan No 3. tp tinggi tali kat fret 1 lg krg dr yg No 3,
0.6~0.8mm, lbh krg sm ngan tbl IC Mykad kita
*tlg btl kn kalo silap
No 3. Korek sket guna file yg sesuai,
jd kn cam bntk V, kt tmpt bekas tali yg belekuk kt sadle tuh,
kalo x der file guna je pisau yg Rm 1.50 kt 7e tu pn bley
(rotan x de, akar pn boleh)
Pasti kn ketinggian string kat fret 12 2/16",
(lbh tinggi dr standard strat 1/16", sbb akustik kalo buzzing skt telinga)
2/16" lbh krg sama ngan tbl IC + licence kt yg asal + renew nyer copy
(rotan x de, akar pn boleh)
*tlg btlkan kalo aku slp
No 3. Sama ngan No 2. tp tinggi tali kat fret 1 lg krg dr yg td,
0.6~0.8mm, lbh krg sm ngan tbl IC Mykad kita
No 4. tiada kaitan (Kalo gtr mhl ader truss rod yg bley adjust)
No 5. Ini tanda2 gtr dah monopose,
Sorry step dah terlabik, aku edit No 2 & 3
*untk gtr akustik, fret buzzing adalah perkara yg perlu d titik berat kan
elak kn string terlalu rapat ngan fret slps mod
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| rybyt123 |
| Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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please watch this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QX-qTHhBhU
u notice how soft the string is. take less effort to fret and bend the string.
is there a difference between cheap guitar and more expensive guitar in term of string tension.
guitar karen aku pun tak lembut cam nih.[/url]
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| ultraman_cosmo |
| Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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| rybyt123 wrote: | please watch this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QX-qTHhBhU
u notice how soft the string is. take less effort to fret and bend the string.
is there a difference between cheap guitar and more expensive guitar in term of string tension.
guitar karen aku pun tak lembut cam nih.[/url] |
normal jer pada permahatian aku.
- cuma pada gua action string a bit rendah.
- and the teknik nya betol, amacam dia bending upper string dan cara dia bending lower string.
No, kita main guitar tak digalakkan memanjakan tangan dengan low tension string.
- benda bending ne dapat di latih.
- gitu juga teknik.
- dan kekuatan tangan pun boleh di majukan.
- tapi kalo dok layan tali lembek manjang, sure spoil karang.
- Tali akustic mesti lagi tegang berbanding electric guitar supaya harmonic content nya lebih.
- sebab akustic more to vocal quality berbanding electric guitar yg lebih kepada magnetic vibration.
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| boyroy |
| Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:52 pm Post subject: special |
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| rybyt123 wrote: | please watch this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QX-qTHhBhU
u notice how soft the string is. take less effort to fret and bend the string.
is there a difference between cheap guitar and more expensive guitar in term of string tension.
guitar karen aku pun tak lembut cam nih.[/url] |
Sorry, aku x nmpk apa2 yg istimewa,
semua normal,
kalo bro nyer x leh wat camtu means something wrong,
be check bro
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| ETERNAL |
| Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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pakai jer strings .8 ...
ko check balik bridge & nut area...
try lubricate the parts.. tuners.. etc2..
btw... ko rase tali tu yang keras atau jari ko yang rasa susah nak pegang/tekan tali tu?
i used to blame on the strings because i'm not used to jumbo frets..
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| rybyt123 wrote: | please watch this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QX-qTHhBhU
u notice how soft the string is. take less effort to fret and bend the string.
is there a difference between cheap guitar and more expensive guitar in term of string tension.
guitar karen aku pun tak lembut cam nih.[/url] |
Your problem memang your cheap guitar if it's Kapok.
1. Kapok action tinggi, string also high gauge.
2. Kapok fret is too small, smaller than strat's fret.
3. Kapok neck is classical guitar neck with, but stringed with acoustic steel strings. Very wide neck.
Semua combo ini makes your guitar a bitch to play anything other than chord strumming.
Soloing with individual fingers = bitch.
Barre Chord = Impossible.
Only can play open chords.
It's the best way to get someone to quit a guitar. *LOL*
Try out better guitar first, like a Yamaha F310. |
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| T|melessness |
| Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:55 am Post subject: |
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Kalo Kapok surface fretboard dia selalu ke dalam seakan shape U.. sebab itu agak tinggi..dan sbb itu jugak ko rasa tension nye tegang.. mmg kebanyakan guitar kapok punya fretboard melengkung ke dlm..sepatut nye guitar letrik atau akustik surface berbentuk C (melengkung ke luar)..
contoh surface seakan C shape..
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| ETERNAL |
| Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:14 am Post subject: |
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ade ke fret gitar yang melengkung kedalam? scalloped? 
If you cant fit to the guitar... dont blame the guitar...
find a another guitar instead that you feel easy to play...
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| T|melessness |
| Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:50 am Post subject: |
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Yup ade..sepatutnye takde tapi ini yg jadi pada kebanyakan Fretboard brand Kapok melengkung ke dlm..yg familiar dgn Kapok perasan benda nih maybe kayu takde quality menyebab kan dia shrink..walaupun lengkung dia tuh sikit aje tapi dah cukup buat tension string out..bkn scalloped la.. tapi radius dia.. imagine pic yg aku bagi tuh radius dia agak ke bawah sikit punya pening ape.. kalo flat takpe la lagi.. sebab tu la kapok payah gilo nak main..hahahah
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