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Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:50 pm Post subject:

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eniQma wrote:

so maksud bro...sustain tu lebih kepada individu tu sendiri ke?

finding a right sustain is like finding the right tone... nuff said...
sustain could be in various diff method..
you choose it..

for me natural wood & hardware & string picking techniques would be the best choice...
i choose to control my own sound.. not letting an electronic device to do it for me...
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Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:56 pm Post subject:

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ETERNAL wrote:

eniQma wrote:

so maksud bro...sustain tu lebih kepada individu tu sendiri ke?

ooo c c....tq bro...
very wise said...tq
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:43 pm Post subject: i

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[quote="ultraman_cosmo"]No. lebih berat biasanya more sustain.

Laughing

..jadi kalau body tu berat lebih sustain ke?hux3.
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:52 pm Post subject:

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ultraman_cosmo wrote:

Tremolo Spring floydrose sebenarnya antara rahsia nya.
- spring original floydrose ne kalo ko petik satu string, ia akan vibrate dan menyebabkan string seolah oleh panjang sustainnya.
- spring ne seolah oleh membuai tali supaya makin lama vibrate nya.
- kalo nak experiment boleh.
- korang sumbatkan lobang dalam spring fr dengan kertas kain or getah.
- aku experiment benda ne dengan tube getah yg biasa orang letak kat fender spring tremolo nak bagi kurangkan bunyi spring.
- ia akan menyebabkan spring tu tak boleh sustain vibrate lama.
- korang akan dapati vibrate dan sustain kat string pun drop juga.
- lagi berat dan solid block tremolo biasanya kan inprove the sustain.

Acually, ceta pasal sustain ne, bukan la sustain panjang tu la paling baik.
- The quality of the sustain adalah paling penting.
- kalo kita dengar dan pilih guitar yg bagus, we r not listening to berapa panjang sustainnya.
- kita dengar quality sustain, amacam dia fading, and ketebalan sustainya.
- Ada lagi pekara yg aku payah nak terangkan dengan kata kata.
- guitar fixed bridge ne more body resosnance tone pada gua, improve the attack dan biasanya ini benda orang carik berbanding sustain.

If u gonna need supperrr extra sustain, go for guitar dengan sustainer driver, macam guitar fernandes dan ada guitar baru yg gua tak ingat brand dia.

How compressor boleh add extra sustain?

untuk dapatkan sustain yang berkualiti dan panjang..ia nya dari keberatan neck head stock atau keberatan body?
Laughing

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ETERNAL wrote:

eniQma wrote:

so maksud bro...sustain tu lebih kepada individu tu sendiri ke?

sokong3..tol sangat2 bro enternal...... Laughing

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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:58 pm Post subject:

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huhu evh..thread ni tergantung arr..huhuhu
btw...bagus gak soklan ko tu...ahahaha
emmm...
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:06 pm Post subject:

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aku sebenarnya tak tahu fakta..
tapi kalau difikirkan secara logiknya..

sustain = vibration tali...
tali connected direct dengan both bridge & tuning peg..
bridge connected direct dengan body... tuning peg connected direct dengan headstock/neck...
body pula seterusnya connected dengan neck..

dengan ini secara logiknya dua2 part/all the part sama penting dalam membentuk sustain..
klu nak divide secara tepat... mid point sustain antara body ngan neck would be the neck slot on the body...

please excuse my crappy post..
tengah bengong ni.. haha..
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:03 pm Post subject: Ephi

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Aku x der jwpn, cumer nk share
penglaman aku,
aku x pernah jmpa Ephiphone Les Paul set neck yg x der sustain

mnkn ader huraian nyer kat sini
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eniQma

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:44 pm Post subject:

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mencari jawapan...huhuhu
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Makin berat body, tak bermakna makin bagus sustainnya (or makin bagus tone nya). Dalam artikel pasal current Gibson quality by Mr X ada state sikit pasal mende nih. Aku tak ingat sape yang up kat sini. Godek2la ye haha. Ada gak yang cakap gitar PRS tu ok wood dia n tone/sustain dpd Gibson, wlupun PRS lagi ringan drp LP

Btw, Aku tak tau nak post kat mana. Tapi sebab benda ni pasal sustain, so aku pun post kat sini jelah..

Aku ada main gitar LP (copy) aku. Bila aku dengar tu OK la sustain dia. Tapi cara dia fade-out tu yang cam pelik skit. Dia fade-out x sekata, x cam linear fade-out, meaning bunyi dia tu macam kita main2kan trem. Ada bunyi vibrato. Taklah laju, tapi slow n berombak-ombak gitu.

Ni sebab characteristic kayu dia ka or sebab charateristic pickup (tinggi rendah output apa semua tu) dia ka or sebab?
Pickup aku pakai 81/85 EMG
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:03 pm Post subject: try

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oRden wrote:

Makin berat body, tak bermakna makin bagus sustainnya (or makin bagus tone nya). Dalam artikel pasal current Gibson quality by Mr X ada state sikit pasal mende nih. Aku tak ingat sape yang up kat sini. Godek2la ye haha. Ada gak yang cakap gitar PRS tu ok wood dia n tone/sustain dpd Gibson, wlupun PRS lagi ringan drp LP

Btw, Aku tak tau nak post kat mana. Tapi sebab benda ni pasal sustain, so aku pun post kat sini jelah..

Aku ada main gitar LP (copy) aku. Bila aku dengar tu OK la sustain dia. Tapi cara dia fade-out tu yang cam pelik skit. Dia fade-out x sekata, x cam linear fade-out, meaning bunyi dia tu macam kita main2kan trem. Ada bunyi vibrato. Taklah laju, tapi slow n berombak-ombak gitu.
lupa nak tnya, ni masa pick single note ke
atau pick power chord ( aku x tau aper nm, tp aku panggil chord kangkang) Embarassed

Ni sebab characteristic kayu dia ka or sebab charateristic pickup (tinggi rendah output apa semua tu) dia ka or sebab?
Pickup aku pakai 81/85 EMG

aku try jwp soalan exam nih Cool

byk sbb, antara nyer
1. intonation
2. pu magnet pulling
3. Cap charactor
dan Lain2

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ETERNAL

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:09 pm Post subject: Re: try

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boyroy wrote:

oRden wrote:

aku try jwp soalan exam nih Cool

byk sbb, antara nyer
1. intonation
2. pu magnet pulling
3. Cap charactor
dan Lain2

Embarassed

pergh... mencabar tul soklan ni...
tak dak pilihan a b c ke?
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:01 pm Post subject: i

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[quote="ETERNAL"]aku sebenarnya tak tahu fakta..
tapi kalau difikirkan secara logiknya..

sustain = vibration tali...
tali connected direct dengan both bridge & tuning peg..
bridge connected direct dengan body... tuning peg connected direct dengan headstock/neck...
body pula seterusnya connected dengan neck..

tol2..jawapan yg bgus,bro enternal..5 star..character neck penting sgt untuk sustain ni..setup,seting sound dan jari yang petiknya..bagi sy la erk..yang pasal lain sy xtau....bro.otai..nak tnya cikit...antara pickup neck dan brigde pickup..yang mana sustain lbh tinggi? Laughing

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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:05 pm Post subject: Re: try

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ETERNAL wrote:

boyroy wrote:

oRden wrote:

aku try jwp soalan exam nih Cool

byk sbb, antara nyer
1. intonation
2. pu magnet pulling
3. Cap charactor
dan Lain2

Embarassed

pergh... mencabar tul soklan ni...
tak dak pilihan a b c ke?

rase nya pickup tu tak serasi dengan kayu body kot..emg cerewet cikit...haha.... Laughing

prs guitar sustain dia sangat tinggi..sbb neck dia dari kayu trunk elephant...rae nya la...haha..lau slh jgn marah.. Embarassed

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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:21 pm Post subject:

King Korek

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hrp mr. cosmo mpertahankan EMG nye...huhuhu org asik ckp cerewt nih...ape yg cerewetnye EMG nih?

huhu off topic!!

leh sambung kat..poll aku nih...hihiihi
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