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fReqZz
PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:07 am    Post subject: effect question Reply with quote



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to be honest, i only know the sound of distortion n overdrive.. but yet to now their differences... n care to explain other effect like flanger, chorus etc.. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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synthdude ada post this site in another forum which has huge references, including on guitar effects ...
http://www.theprojectstudiohandbook.com/directory.htm
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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or you can use wikipedia.

taruk je whatever effects you wanna know about in the SEARCH option.

here's one for starters.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Thanks guys for the resources!
In general, overdrive is supposed to emulate the soft clipping of tube amps...pretty much a more mellow tone with more midrange, while Distortion is a harder and more agressive tone, with more emphasis on high frequencies and less mids...

As an example, on this song:
http://www.i-bands.net/audiovault/bands/1682/music.php
Izuan's guitar tone would be what I would call overdrive, while mine and Erylasia's guitar tone is more distortion...of course there are no hard and fast rules Smile

And here is another lame excuse to play that song again! he he he... Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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thanx...
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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oh cenggitu...

tapi between overdrive n distortion..

yang mane satu lebih banyak effecting
low notes n less on high notes...

cause been playing with the setting of those two
n some times when playing the first, scnd n third string ..
bunyik overdrive n distort mcm hilang
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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what do you mean dgn bunyi distort hilang bro?
maksud ko gain ker?

aku setuju dgn penerangan Bode tu.. cuma nak tambah sikit, biasanya overdrive ni sound dia lebih transparent. Maksud transparent kat sini ialah bunyi asal guitar(bunyi guitar bila tak cucuk kat amp) tu masih kekal lagi. Distortion pulak biasanya boleh mengubah terus karakter asal bunyi guitar. Sebab distortion biasanya gain dia lebih byk dari overdrive.

ni ada soundclip aku yang boleh membezakan Overdrive dgn Distortion

dlm clip ni untuk rythm aku guna overdrive dan utk solo tu aku guna distortion.

http://www.i-bands.net/audiovault/play.php?band_id=1049&song_id=5820&mode=song_hifi

tapi kalau ko setkan low gain pada distortion pedal, so itu pun kira sound overdrive jugak.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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hmm..
rase nye overdrive...

bile tali besar...
sound distort ok jer...

tapi sampai tali yang halus...
mcm tak der distort jer....
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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izuanhafez wrote:
.. cuma nak tambah sikit, biasanya overdrive ni sound dia lebih transparent. Maksud transparent kat sini ialah bunyi asal guitar(bunyi guitar bila tak cucuk kat amp) tu masih kekal lagi. Distortion pulak biasanya boleh mengubah terus karakter asal bunyi guitar. Sebab distortion biasanya gain dia lebih byk dari overdrive.

ni ada soundclip aku yang boleh membezakan Overdrive dgn Distortion

dlm clip ni untuk rythm aku guna overdrive dan utk solo tu aku guna distortion.

http://www.i-bands.net/audiovault/play.php?band_id=1049&song_id=5820&mode=song_hifi

tapi kalau ko setkan low gain pada distortion pedal, so itu pun kira sound overdrive jugak.


Very good point Wan!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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aku byk bagi tahu mengikut pemahaman fikiran aku je dengan harapan kalau salah orang lain boleh tolong jolokkan.. eh betulkan.. barulah sharing gitu..
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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terus terangnya,.. drive biasa digunakan zaman 60-70an.. distotion zaman 80-sekarang...
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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aha~ ok2.. mcm gitu ye eri.. tp overdrive ni x memuaskan hati la.. lagu mcm metallica which uses lot of "e-palm" jd x best bile pk overdrive.. kalo aku naikkan level overdrive, jd berpasir lak.. ke sebab aku pk single coil? or sbb amp laney x ckp best? ke aku kene beli boss distort... ke aku yg x reti main? uhu~
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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nak main metal kena cari pedal yg high gain la..
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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fReqZz wrote:
mcm metallica which uses lot of "e-palm" jd x best bile pk overdrive...


metal tones in general are distorted. so, jgn la guna overdriven tones. distort it with a stompbox or the highest gain your amp can give.

overdriven tones which are warmer aren't neccesarily 'tak best' pasal ada gunanya, like playing classic rock, blues etc.

i know there are no rules in music but hi-gain distortion wouldn't fit well if you were playing a muddy waters tune, for example (unless you wanna do an XPDC on blues tunes lah). the same goes in the converse situation, although overdriven tones can be found in quieter metallica passages in their 'load' and 'reload' albums.

to sum it up, just guna overdriven and distorted tones mengikut the song's style.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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fReqZz wrote:
.... or sbb amp laney x ckp best? .....~


boss, jangan cakap Laney 'tak cukup best', kang ada seorang Doktor yang bedah ko tanpa anastetik kang Wink
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