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the liar
PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 10:19 pm    Post subject: invite to see Lied live Reply with quote



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hi,

if you haven't checked out Lied yet, please do. www.i-bands.net/lied

i'd like to invite one and all to one of our shows.

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huru hara
furniture

dragon red

estranged

Y2k

lied

tempered mental

paul's place

22 May, 2pm

RM10

come see the show. it will be fun.

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DISENCHANTING THE ROMANTIC

featuring

LIED
INFINITE DELAY
CASSANDRA
SKY IN EUPHORIA (Singapore)


30th April 2005
830pm onwards
RM10 + free drink


The New Paul's Place
8, Jalan 2/137B
Resource Industrial Centre
Off Jalan Klang Lama,
Kuala Lumpur
for more info, e-mail: kl@awake.com.sg

see you there!

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Saturday, April 23rd

Lemang Music presents:
Too Far Gone - An extravaganza in many acts including:

SOFT TOUCH: http://www.lemang.com/softouch/Softtouch.htm
SAER ZE: http://www.saerze.com/
D-VA: http://www.bintangseni.com/main.htm
CATS IN LOVE: http://www.i-bands.net/audiovault/bands/1489/
LIED: www.i-bands.net/lied
JAMIE WOON (acoustic artist from UK): www.jamiewoon.com
And more to be confirmed …

Venue: Paul's Place, 8, 2/137B Resource Industrial Centre, off Jalan Klang Lama.
Turn left opposite Pearl Hotel, you'll see a "mamak" stall on the corner. Go down that road and turn first left - that's the street. It's No. 8 on 4th or 5th floor.

Date: Saturday, April 23rd
Time: 8.00 pm
Cost: RM15 including drink
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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kewl.....
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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wah banyak show! go go go!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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LIED??? tipu lah!!! Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Banyak gig lah these days. I think I also need to organise gigs to make some money just to attend more gigs soon Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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totziens wrote:
Banyak gig lah these days. I think I also need to organise gigs to make some money just to attend more gigs soon Very Happy



gig can make money mah??
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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cannn.. if u don't pay the band.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Grymlock, seriously someone (I won't name the person yet) helping me to run my label (Umbrella Records) is suggesting that I should plan to organise gigs soon. It will be a way for generating some income to the bands and the label. I am still thinking about it. Although not much money is going to be generated, a bit of $ is better than nothing, right?

At this moment, I am digging money from my own pocket but no $ coming in...haha...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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GryMlock wrote:
wah banyak show! go go go!


yoru avatar is realy cool

yah ... what to do. my band is starting out, have to try to get as many shows as possible to get the word out.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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mrbungle wrote:
totziens wrote:
Banyak gig lah these days. I think I also need to organise gigs to make some money just to attend more gigs soon Very Happy



gig can make money mah??


the few gigs i've been involved in organising (longdrawn mainly), i didn't really make much money.

but at least i managed to cover cost of equipment rental and pay the bands some amount. it's difficult to make money organising shows, unless like grymlock said, you don't pay the bands.

i think the only way to really make money doing shows is if you get big corporate sponsors involved. then organiser gets a cut and bands get paid quite ok too. not easy pitching gig ideas to big sponsors though.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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thank you... going for that cyber-ish feel Very Happy

I'll probably come by this saturday. Kalau fulus mencukupi ah.

good luck man!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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totziens wrote:
Grymlock, seriously someone (I won't name the person yet) helping me to run my label (Umbrella Records) is suggesting that I should plan to organise gigs soon. It will be a way for generating some income to the bands and the label. I am still thinking about it. Although not much money is going to be generated, a bit of $ is better than nothing, right?

At this moment, I am digging money from my own pocket but no $ coming in...haha...


i think one of the concerns people will have, esp with you doing a compilation is that you may be accused of exploiting bands to make money. i mean since you can't pay the bands for the songs you're looking for to do your compilation cd, and you will be selling the cd, this may rub people the wrong way.

same with gigs, sometimes if you don't make the accounting for a gig transparent enough, people will bitch and moan about what you are doing and how much money you're making off the bands.

i think in both cases (gig & compilation cd), one way to circumvent the issues is by getting everyone financially involved in the project as well. split the cost of recording, producing the compilation CD. as a label, perhaps you could handle the promotion and settle distribution issues, but as far as the CD goes, if everyone is involved financially and you make sure everyone knows exactly what accounting is going on, then everyone has to work to make the CD successful. all bands can get a number of CDs based on how much money they put in, and the bands can recover their cost by selling those CDs.

similarly, with gigs, if all bands involved chipped in for equipment rental or any sort of payment necessary, all bands would have an incentive to make the show successful to recover their costs and turn a profit. i haven't managed to do anything like this in a gig context here, but i would like to try one of these days.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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yeah. that's something that u have to be prepared lah. But sometimes no matter how transparent u are... people still bitching. So it's gonna be ..how long can u tahan and willing to tahan.
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my advice to u (totzien) is to make a plan how to distribute the stuff, with the attractive promotion action like gig and tour plan, or media support like x-fresh or something, make an contest and also an award ceremony like era .. but this one is for underground music la hehehe..

among ourself (i-band) we can discuss the best way to do this...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Thanks for the support and all the advice. One day we should all meet up and sit down to discuss about this.

Liar, are you Adlin? The bands are financing themselves in the recording. To be fair, I hope to help promoting them anyway I can. I am getting the bands to promote my label indirectly. I want people to see a product - the compilation demo ...just to prove that I mean what I said...and I really hope for a united underground music scene. I am praying that Soundscape and the Indian underground music scene will be a part of this.

I am afraid of being accused of being a leach too. So far, most of the bands I talked to seems understanding. To tell u the truth, I hope to sell the CD cheap - maybe RM5 (I'll try to keep the price low). Although some people told me the cost of compilation can be hiked up a bit further. I think the people with such accusation are the ones haven't done any such thing before - basically the NATO (No Action Talk Only) ones.

With the help of you guys and other labels, I believe holding gigs to promote the compilation is possible.

I don't have a high expectation for this project. High expectation will usually cause disappointment. I'll do everything in a small scale and see how it goes...improve as we go along...step by step (oh dear.. I have the phobia of New Kids On The Block's Step By Step)
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