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ETERNAL
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 4:58 pm    Post subject: Sound Hilang ..... aku pun pening ... Reply with quote

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kepada brader smua..
saya nak mintak tolong..

aku ada record satu lagu..
tapi sound pedal drum dah hilang.. pelik aku...
sebelum convert mp3 ok jer..
sound bass pun terganggu..

aku record pakai Cubase SX
drum vsti - Fruity Loops
Bass Vsti - boo bass (FL)
aku ader guna compressor (dynamic)
aku naikkan level ke tahap maksimum..

misteri2..
camner leh hilang..

ni sound sample tuh

streaming

http://www.i-bands.net/audiovault/play.php?band_id=2139&song_id=9006&mode=song_hifi

download

http://www.i-bands.net/audiovault/download.php?band_id=2139&song_id=9006&mode=song_hifi

terima kasih
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ok brother ,, gua dah dengar,... let me say sumthing,... i thinks your Boominess eq dah terlebih,.. memang kick takleh dengar,(ditengelami Boominess 100hz or les). ko cuba cutkan sket area 100hz or les... hah speaker untuk ko monitor jugak kena laa flat,.. sebab kat speaker aku nih Boominess dia dah terover,.. try to mix banyak kali..... bass ko dah cam octave rendah sangat,.. sebab eq tuh,...... masa mix tuh drum fl bleh multiout kah?,, cuba try multioutkan.. proses satu2 kick, snare, etc.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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hah,, nih aku pastkan list overal untuk basic eq,.. checkout...

80hz - rumble of the bass
100hz - thump of the kick
200hz - bottom of the guitar
250hz - warmth of the vocal
350hz - bang of the snare
400hz - body of the bass
500hz - clang of the high hat
600hz - clang of the cymbals
800hz - ping of ride cymbal
1000hz - meat of the guitar
1200hz - body of the snare
1400hz - meat of the vocal
1600hz - snap of the kick/plectrum on guitar (attack)
2500hz - wires and snap of snare
3000hz - presence of the vocal
4000hz - ring of ride cymbal/top end of bass guitar
6000hz - sizzle of the high hat
7000hz - sizzle of the cymbals
8000hz - top end of the kick
9000hz - brightness on snare and cymbals
10000hz - brightness on vocal
12000hz - air on vocal
14000hz - air on cymbals
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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nice info erylasia..sometimes these things are called frequency clashing..because kick drum and bass guitar do have the same frequency sometimes..in this case one is over-powering the other.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Erna wrote:
nice info erylasia..sometimes these things are called frequency clashing..because kick drum and bass guitar do have the same frequency sometimes..in this case one is over-powering the other.


I think you meant Masking.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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i see..never heard about this term before..thanks okta for the info..
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/sound/mask.html
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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waaa... thanks alot..
aku mmg jahil bab mixing..

banyak pulak term...

bagi keyboard/synth nye eq... mcm mane ye??
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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ETERNAL wrote:
bagi keyboard/synth nye eq... mcm mane ye??


rasanyer xpayah eq..terus pilih sound yg patut from preset or sound module yg ada..tapi kalau nak eq jugak, guna je eq mixer yg ada kat dlm program tu..
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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thanks bro..

aku mixing guna headphone murah..
output bass kurang.. thats why...

so... bleh korang suggest headphone yang economical for mixing??
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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u can't really do a proper mix with only a headphones.
you'll loose the ambience of a room when u mix with headphones.
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think you meant Masking.


Okta, boleh terang skit pasal freq masking ne. Aku kurang faham,
is it somthing like freq phasing.

Rate utk convert mp3 tu berapa aaaa. sebab kalo terlalu rendah biasanya akan kill beberapa frequency detail. macam bunyi angin, flute dan growl biasa hilang bila mp3 compress rate rendah sangat.

Tapi distortion guitar riff terlalu flat eq disebabkan banyak sangat high frequency... dah macam white noise dah aku dengar. bagi middle skit kat riff tu.
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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just like how the website explained.

kalau cam kick drum ngan bass guitar.
biasa lagu with double pedal kureng low bass die cos it will interfere with the bass guitar and might probally will cause the sound to be muddy. Maybe that's why they have very "clicky" sound for kick drums.

i think it got something to do with the phase cancellation.

correct me if i'm wrong

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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okta wrote:
u can't really do a proper mix with only a headphones.
you'll loose the ambience of a room when u mix with headphones.


Embarassed SAVING MAA...
Jiran2 tak sporting lah Mad
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