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| cartman, eric |
 Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:56 pm Post subject: [WTA] Fender Vintage "Noiseless" Tele® Pickups |
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ade sape2 ade experience pakai pikap ni x.?
ade kawan kpd kawan, hantar gitar die kt aku mintak tlg tukar pikap.
gitar MIM Tele, tukar drpd stock pikap kpd Noiseless nie.
lepas pasang aku test, ade hum.
kalo ikutkan wiring diagram yg disertakan dlm kotak tu,
xde ground wire dr Vol pot -> Bridge.
tp aku skip diagram tu dan wire mcm wiring asal,
aku wire a ground dr Vol pot -> Bridge
tp still ade ground hum, pegang string/bridge hum tu hilang.
ade baca review, ade yg ckp dieorg pon ade problem bising.
1 reviewer tulis, earlier models mmg bising, x mcm yg baru sket.
so aku nak buat full shielding,
mcm yg bro ultra_cosmo buat kt gitar aku.
tp still nak tanye la:
- mmg btol ke Noiseless.?
- sape2 yg lain ade problem ni tak.?
- agak2 ade ape2 yg aku tertinggal / silap tak.?
much help is appreciated.
Thanks.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:26 am Post subject: [WTA] Fender Vintage "Noiseless" Tele® Pickups |
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Hi!
Maybe it's just a simple case of changing to a bigger capacitor.
Here're some articles you may want to refer to:
Do tell us the result after the mod. 
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| cartman, eric |
| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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wow honestly i dont know what to say.
thanks hak.
anyway the dude is coming by tonite with aluminum tape,
he got it from a friend before i could buy em'.
i'll try the tape 1st, it worked on my guitar when bro cosmo here did it.
i'll try and bother someone for their camera and take some pics.
will upload psot em up here.
thanks again.
Cheers.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:23 am Post subject: |
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The wiring diagram for the stock Fender Noiseless pickup setup is known to be flawed. Did you also get the stock capacitor and 2 transistors with the setup kit? I believe it is required. If you rewire it, copy the configuration from the Jeff Beck Signature Stratocaster Set up. That's how it is commonly used. I have done it with just one regular capacitor wired up the "vintage" way. It sounds alright. You will need the proper pots to get full usage of the volume and tone though.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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ok i redid the wiring, thanks to some Pm'ing back and forth with browndog and wired it to the stock Tele Noiseless wiring,
but adding a ground from the vol pot -> bridge.
the things still hums, the bridge pup is tolarable, but the neck pup is noisier then the bridge pup. browndog pointed out that it might be the wiring of power socket in my room/apt building.
i havent heard from the owner, so i'm still waiting for him to come by and take it somewhere else to test it out.
guitarmonger: sorry, i'm a lil confused. are you talking about the Noiseless Stratocaster.? can i wire a Tele Noiseless taking que from the Jeff Beck Strat, but making amendments to make fit for a Tele Config.?
anyhow Tele Noiseless setup kit did not come with Caps and Transistors.
i was wondering myself too, but a quick check with the Fender site proved that the caps and Trans are not included in the kit. so i'm using the stock caps, the ones in the guitar itself.
it might be changed previously, as the guitar had its wiring done prior to the owner coming to me.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:59 am Post subject: |
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Bro,
My bad...I just assumed it was a Strat, because the standard set of Noiseless pups they sell in the US are for Strats...a complete set of 3. I had wired them into a guitar I built two years ago...but I had problems with the volume and tone. The tone was muddy and the volume was just acceptable around 8,9 and 10.
Anyway, a new capacitor...and it drastically changed. Not sure if I changed the pots this time around.
Sorry, I guess I should have asked first.But yeah, the J.Beck signature uses Noiseless now....the originals just used Lace Sensors.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:50 am Post subject: |
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^ its ok nvm about the slip up.
anyhow, the owner came by and tested it at my place and did acknowledge the noise.
i advised him to take it over to his place to test it out there,
explaining about my suspicions about the electrical grounding at my place.
i did get a very excited sms from him later saying its "quiet" over at his place.
now i cant bear witness to say what was the noise level as to what he regards as "quiet".
i advised him to test it further in a band scenario, at a jam session.
so for now, i'm waiting for that update.
thanks for the input tho, appreciate it.
Cheers.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:36 am Post subject: |
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Back in the day,...everytime I turned my Crate amp up....My entire house would be humming..and the lights would flicker... I don't think it was my pickup's fault!
Must have been the Korean Squire I was using. 
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:53 am Post subject: |
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^ that is really messed up.
i think i figured out my problem.
in my case, my room has only 1 wall socket.
so if i plug in my amp, it has 4 appliances to handle.
the amp, computer (CPU, monitor, speakers)
^ as i was typing that, i realize i have never tried testing the guitar with the computer off and just the amp connected to the wall socket. 
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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at last you managed it bro...
cheers!
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| cartman, eric wrote: | ^ that is really messed up.
i think i figured out my problem.
in my case, my room has only 1 wall socket.
so if i plug in my amp, it has 4 appliances to handle.
the amp, computer (CPU, monitor, speakers)
^ as i was typing that, i realize i have never tried testing the guitar with the computer off and just the amp connected to the wall socket. |
Kalo computer monitor lama, giler kuat kuar noise pada guitar... Even 3 2 meter pun tangkap lagi. Semua keturunan yg pakai tube cam tv pun ada masalah sama.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:20 am Post subject: |
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ha ha ha! lampu kalimantang pon kacau gak... tu la, aku cakap pakai filamen macam tube pakai plate... ko nak berapa watts pon ada... ha ha ha! yo bro cosmo, aku punya ts9 maut dah siap ka? mau belasah dumble maut lu la...
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| Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:16 am Post subject: |
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| browndog2woof wrote: | ha ha ha! lampu kalimantang pon kacau gak... tu la, aku cakap pakai filamen macam tube pakai plate... ko nak berapa watts pon ada... ha ha ha! yo bro cosmo, aku punya ts9 maut dah siap ka? mau belasah dumble maut lu la...
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Aik ts5 dah jadi TS9 kaaa... hahahhaah.
Aku tengah solder la ne... sambil layan forum... kakkakaka.
Itu pot ko bagi silap value, Bila gua dessolder ada 500KA and 20K plak...
- kena turun jalan pasar carik pot ne.. bukak ker tak kedai.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:57 am Post subject: |
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| browndog2woof wrote: | at last you managed it bro...
cheers!
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thanks bro. very much appreciate your pm's 
| ultraman_cosmo wrote: | | Kalo computer monitor lama, giler kuat kuar noise pada guitar... Even 3 2 meter pun tangkap lagi. Semua keturunan yg pakai tube cam tv pun ada masalah sama. |
itu la pasal. monitor aku kire model biase2 la.
yg ponggong besa gedebak.
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