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adzakael
PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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korang pernah hidup 3 bulan makan nasik ngan telur masin je?
pernah makan nasik ngan minyak jelantah or garam shj?
x pernah?
jd sape korang nak ckp psl kemiskinan?

aku duduk Australia
yes,Australia produce minyak tp harga petrol jauh lagi mahal dr mesia
Australia ekonomi jauh lagi maju tp minyak jauh lg mahal dr mesia
Aussie nye penduduk lebih kurang ramai dgn mesia
tp minyak still mahal (AUD1.70 seliter ke atas atau ke bawah setiap hari,different stesen)
nasik lemak sini,RM21 sepinggan (AUD7 average,makan plg murah pun AUD5)

aku mmg jenis suka amik peluang
dan aku dah lama tau cara hidup,cara bisnes sumer akan berubah
kat mesia nak pasang NGV kit pon bole bayar ansur2
kengkawan aku kat forum lain ramai yg nak buat dah
of course,since demand akan naik,NGV nye station akan bercambah
(at least kat Shah Alam skarang ade 3 stesen,lps ni akan naik lagi)

aku adelah antara 2 provider for a family of 14
so aku tau segala perit hidup susah payah jd provider ni
kitorang pernah tinggal RM10 for that month dr duit income (lps tolak hutang sumer)
yet kitorang x pernah rasa terbeban
gaya hidup kitorang mmg x perlu diubah dari 20 tahun lps since mmg dah fit utk segala krisis (thanks to my mum yg sentiasa menekankan kesederhanaan biarpun duit tgh bnyk)
the clans elders kat kampung rilek je xde rase tertekan dgn minyak naik sumer (lgpon diorng x payah byr cukai pintu)
(org Felda lagi la x tertekan sbb income dionrg makin besar dr hari ke hari,kelapa sawit makin mahal wooo)

aku dah lama duk ckp dgn org
antara cara utk mengembangkan ekonomi adalah dgn percambahan SME
so ni adelah peluang utk korang pikir camne nak buat side income
drpd dok melalak psl minyak naik

aku berpegang pd hadis Nabi Muhammad S.A.W
"9/10 dari pendapatan adalah dari perniagaan"
jadi sbg antara usaha mengikut sunnah baginda
aku jd seorang peniaga
dan aku sentiasa menggalakkan clansmen aku (terutamanya yg muda remaja) utk menceburi bidang perniagaan
lgpun aku percaya,peniaga dr SME sepatutnya jd pengawal harga
bukan jd mangsa harga

I will not follow the path of the slaves
I will fight to be the one of the Masters
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adzakael
PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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prinsip aku camni
apa yg diorng seleweng tu biar diorng jwb dgn Tuhan
bg aku,selagi aku tak tau benda tu betul ke tak aku mmg takkan layan
cukup la dgn dosa2 lain yg aku buat
aku tak nak tambah dgn memfitnah org
bukannye pleasurable pun main tuduh org buat tu buat ni

ape yg aku tau
aku mesti keluar menjadi org yg mengawal harga brg di rantau ni
even if it means aku sorang je yg berjuang ke arah tu

if anything i think the story of the Third Reich will be appropriate right now
after WW1 Germany went into huge economic crisis
inflation tahap gila tak ingat,paper money became worthless
since they have to repay all the damages of the war
tp when Hitler came
he managed to get the Germans up and running
creating among the best technologies in the world
yet after WW2 the inflation level still tak significantly berubah
tp sbb the motivation given by Hitler (to become the Master race)
they manage to control most of the Europe (by force)

so this story tells us something
even with high inflation
we still can control the region
we have to exploit our human resource (like what Singapore did)
so that we can produce the best tech and service,locally and globally
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adzakael
PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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list negara pengeluar minyak serta status pengeluar

jumlah eksport minyak mengikut negara


jumlah pengeluaran dan net export mengikut negara pengeluar

senarai top consuming countries

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/Malaysia/Profile.html < profil tenaga Malaysia
http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/Australia/Profile.html < profil tenaga Australia
http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/Canada/Profile.html < profil tenaga Kanada

mengenai harga fuel http://www.thepriceoffuel.com/howcountriescompare/

aku tgh research lagi psl fuel price sedunia in comparison dgn consumption etc
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adzakael
PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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this is interesting

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_price#Average_gasoline_prices_around_the_world

Kanada,UK,US,India,Norway,Russia,Denmark,Colombia,Iran dan Australia adalah antara negara pengeluar minyak yg fuel pricenye lagi mahal dari Malaysia

price per gallon in USD:

Iran: 4.20 (as of May 2007)
Malaysia: 3.18 (as of June 2008)
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Venezuela RM0.16 jerk?? Mari kwn˛ kite dok Venezuela..
rosak plan aku nk g p.perhentian.. budget lari ar!!
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Scumgrief
PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Suda la beb... get of your high horse, try dulu duduk kat KL, earning 2000 ringgit month with kids and wife to feed, lets see you being cocky...

motherfucker...
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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One more thing, speaking of SMEs, think of how the fuel price increase effects the SMEs, with the fuel increase, operating costs increase, the workers expects a bigger pay, lama-lama SME yang ada semua bungkus... How nice is that?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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lu tuduh gua cabut duduk negara org?
heh
gua kat sini blajar la wei
gua mmg akan balik x lama lagi
ape kelas lari macam pengecut weih
aku ade pride aku sendri la
tp ape kelas jadi hamba abdi mcm korang ni
melalak tak tentu pasal tp tak fikir camne nak improve the situation directly
sebagai org yg jauh lebih berwawasan,
kalau aku join korang dah tentu maruah aku jatuh
kalau aku join korang dah tentu aku takleh duk sebaris dgn Tan Sri Mokhtar Al-Bukhary,Tan Sri Yahya dan lain2 utk selama-lamanya

mcm aku ckp td
aku adalah antara 2 provider for a family of 14
10 drpdnya masih bersekolah lagi
gaji aku masa keje dulu lg best, RM800 aje
balik ni pun aku kena sambung task aku jd provider balik
gaji aku for that? nil
tp sumernye bergantung pd profit/loss yg aku akan dapat

i will return to prove my hypothesis from 7 years economic research is right or wrong
i will fight to take on the global challenge
not sitting there and whine and whine and whine and become a crybaby
i have my pride and dignity
therefore i will not join u all in this.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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lawak lah lu.

Quote:
minyak naik..bil letrik naik..bil letrik naik

so...adekah jamming studio naik harge?
harge string n gtar naik harge?

dammm!!

- yang ne gua faham.
- Ayoo, kenapa masa gua belajar chem pet dulu diorang tak ajar subject politik sains... hahhahaha.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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come la Daniel.. let's try to use lil less profanities ya... i know you're pissed but so do the rest of us..

let's keep this a healthy discussion going ya..

on one hand eventhough i'm far away and not really feeling the pinch yet but now I'm contemplating whether to go back for good it's a good idea or not in lieu of these inflations/gas hike etc

anybody here knows the inner working of Petronas and how they are managing the hydrocarbon of our countries ?

honestly - gas hike doesn't bother me much really and i don't mind paying face value of what ever market price , it just means that I won't be able to afford luxurious item like that nice GIbson LP i've been eyeing la hahaha .. I'm guessing price for a 3-5k Gibson LP is about how much I would pay for all these gas hikes but I'm more worried bout the slow inflation increase creeping in as an after effect of this petrol price hike..

just my 2 cents (minus subsidy) LOL
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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opppss..oppss... kat sini tak payah la nak gaduh2..
cukup takat tukar2 pendapat and bincang2 gitu sudah le..
tang gaduh2 tu pun dah menunjukkan kita camana sebenarnya..


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korang pernah hidup 3 bulan makan nasik ngan telur masin je?
pernah makan nasik ngan minyak jelantah or garam shj?
x pernah?
jd sape korang nak ckp psl kemiskinan?


come on bro, mana lu tahu ada orang kat dlm
forum ni tak pernah susah macam ni? lagi susah
pada tu ada lagi kot.. mana la tahu..
Tapi kalau kita tanya Pak Lah, Najib etc,
maybe diorang tak pernah lalui benda mcm tu..
so maybe takkan faham.. macam mana
nak beli makanan utk buka posa pun tak de duit.. just tunggu azan je...dengan air sejuk..err air paip maybe..

scumgrief pun rilex aa.. kita orang2 marhain
ni tak boleh nak buat apa sangat pasal kenaikan gini.. boleh bincang je la..

Adzakael, tahniah la lu belajar sampai Ozzie,
tapi tak bak kata pak lah jugak,
tak bole compare apples and oranges (except pada masa nak compaer harga minyak je, boleh pulak)
situation for every country is unique..
tapi Ozzie maybe produce mintak, tapi like India still
kena beli pasal tak cukup.. so kena jual mahal skit...
walhal malaysia dah boleh export, antara export commodity terbesar kita..

dalam bab Hitler, kat Jerman tak la berbilang
kaum and bangsa macam kat malaysia...
kat sini susah sikit .. faham2 la..

Banyak orang 'terkejut' dengan gaya pentadbiran
yang macam gini.. kalau nak dinaikkan secara
gradual elok la sikit.. 78 sen seliter akan memberi
kesan relatif yang besar terhadap inflasi...

tak dan nak taip byk2... just 2 sen, IMHO yg tak berapa pandai.. guna lah forum ni untuk bincang elok2...this is I-BANDS!
ROCK ON FOREVER
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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ahahahahaha

beb,kami faham hardship org susah
x buleh nak blame cz World petroleum price are hiking like hell now..we know..off course we know

but,income company negara kita banyak..hasil dari tax,keuntungan yg diberi PETRONAS and semua source income ngare kita nih mmg byk la source dia.

BUT,where have gone all those money?knape rakyat mesti suffer dgn mengurangkan segala subsidi yg diberi sebelum ini?
tatkala kite menghadap pening2 petroleum naik,
kite cut spenditure utk rakyat n pergi beli JET PEJUANG,
KAPAL SELAM AND BINA MULTIKORIDOR RAYA kat sabah n serawak sana?

hold la dulu..simpan duit yg x seberapa tu bagi rakyat relax sket..
nk kurangkan subsidi pon agak2..
RM0.78 sen kenaikan serta merta is too much burden utk rakyat

manakah rasa bertanggungjawab pemimpin kite nih?
Wakil rakyat utk ape yg dia wakil ni?
utk ape diorang berjuang?
utk rakyatkah itu namanye?
biarkn kite merana..janji jet pejuang ada tersedia utk tontonan umum...
knape x cut cost subsidi beli jet pejuang tu utk cover subsidi minyak ni semntara waktu?
at least smpai harge crude oil stabil

just my 2 cents
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first thing first. you cannot look at the conversion rate between AUD and MYR because its different when staying there. That is how the goverment wants us to see. But how can you compare both lifestyles? One is a 2nd world and the other is 3rd world. does not make sense.

Yes it is a frustration that the fuel price has increased more than I expected when I did the forecast of fuel increase for Honda this year. I expected to be in July after the election. With the fuel price increased, car pricing are also affected.
Car makers are more competitive now. The cost of the engine technology will cost more than just the exterior looks. Every car makers are turning into hybrid technology. By next year, most japanese cars are going to be hybrid aka using the i-vtec which will run on fuel cell more than fuel itself.
it is hard to swallow, to buy the car model of the same design but minimal facelift just to have that technology. Furthermore, all rear seats of the car will now have rear seat belts.

But unfortunately, proton and perodua companies will be highly affected by this trend. When you preach fuel efficient but no performance.

Anyway back to the gov asking people to change their lifestyle to adapt to fuel price increase. Why should we change? why not them?



P/S if you want to post any pictures please squeese them to thumbnail size, or i will have to delete it. its too slow to load the page, plus its messy too.
thanks
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I just cannot fathom somebody for being genuinely happy because of other people difficulty. If you do not face these difficulties then good for you, but actually to laugh in ones face? That just ticks me off...
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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adzakael wrote:
lu tuduh gua cabut duduk negara org?
heh
gua kat sini blajar la wei
gua mmg akan balik x lama lagi
ape kelas lari macam pengecut weih
aku ade pride aku sendri la
tp ape kelas jadi hamba abdi mcm korang ni
melalak tak tentu pasal tp tak fikir camne nak improve the situation directly
sebagai org yg jauh lebih berwawasan,
kalau aku join korang dah tentu maruah aku jatuh
kalau aku join korang dah tentu aku takleh duk sebaris dgn Tan Sri Mokhtar Al-Bukhary,Tan Sri Yahya dan lain2 utk selama-lamanya

mcm aku ckp td
aku adalah antara 2 provider for a family of 14
10 drpdnya masih bersekolah lagi
gaji aku masa keje dulu lg best, RM800 aje
balik ni pun aku kena sambung task aku jd provider balik
gaji aku for that? nil
tp sumernye bergantung pd profit/loss yg aku akan dapat

i will return to prove my hypothesis from 7 years economic research is right or wrong
i will fight to take on the global challenge
not sitting there and whine and whine and whine and become a crybaby
i have my pride and dignity
therefore i will not join u all in this.


I was going to say something else, but screw it, I am not gonna dignify this post with a proper response...


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