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| ultraman_cosmo |
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| browndog2woof wrote: | | bagus cosmo.... aku berasa bangga... btw, aku dah kena trigger finger.. tengah rest ni... ha ha ha! |
Thank bro. Kitaorang pun kena ucap tq kepada bro pasal post a lot of guitar information though iband.
Trigger finger, adus, amacam boleh kena. hope nothing serius bro. nanti susah lah gua nak dengar blues lick dari u.
About exercise bahagian badan lain, gua tak cover utk treat ne. Let spiderfinger terangkan nanti. maybe include sekali exercise, cara bernafas, pemakanan, rehat, tido, teknik ngorat awek dan sebagainya.
| Quote: | still on pattern 1...
kalu kedepan ABCD laju sikit..tapi bila yg gostan DCBA slow...
tapi yg improvenya, mata aku nampak 4 fret at a time..kehkeh |
- It so k kalo bro move to pattern 2 or pattern 3.
- tak perlu nak master giler babas baru nak move to next pattern.
- just try main berulang, next pattern to next pattern and start balik ke pattern mulanya.
- or just emagine pattern12&3 adalah satu set exercise.
- as i say before maybe pattern2 akan boleh improve the motion utk pattern1 dan sebaliknya.
- utk exercise ne buat la secara rewang or bersahaja.
- nanti kalo korang nak practise teknik, tu baru la concentrate betul. avoid bad habit, buat betul betul.
- tapi ini just exercise, buat ia lebih fun berbanding terlalu tertekan.
- Gua nyer favorite adalah pattern 2.
- ia dah jadi standard warm up sebelom gua main guitar.
- If gua rasa pattern2 nyer feel is not there, maka gua tau gua dah jauh lost ne... so kena practise balik.
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| Master-IB |
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| browndog2woof |
| Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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yo cosmo,
therapy and rest jap. mostly yg kena adalah typist, musician dan macam2 lagi. tendonitis dan athrithis pon common. aku bukan doctor la, tapi doctor othopedics yg bilang... internet pon banyak info.
http://orthopedics.about.com/cs/handcondiitions/a/triggerfinger.htm
adios!
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| ultraman_cosmo |
| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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Gua dah betulkan ada sedikit kesilapan symbol dalam pattern ne.
Pattern 4
- exercise ne sebenarnya salah satu cara utk kita set kita punya muscle memory nyer feel setiap kali move up or down the string.
- pattern4b merupakan mirror bagi pattern4a.
- Gua tak include the picking sebab sajer nak bagi u all fikir sendiri.
Instruction
Pattern 4a
- Cara dia adalah sama macam pattern123 cuma kali ne kita akan lompat to next string
- Gua tak kisah amacam u all nak picking, samada alterante, or economy bla bla.
- yang paling penting pastikan jari jari ABCD sentiasa pada string awal.
- Kata lah utk pattern 4a.
- Masa kita petik pada position E, pasatikan others jari BCD still berada pada string 3.
- begitu juga tika petik pada position F pastikan ACD berada pada string 3.
- Last, paling perit, pada position G, pastikan ABD pada string3.
Pattern 4b
- Pekara yg sama sepertimana kita lakukan pada pattern4a.
- pastikan hanya jari yg perlu lompat ker next string, dan lain lain yg patut stay, should stay pada string3.
What to improve?
- sebenarnya dalam solo or bikin chord or apergious or sebagainya.
- kita sering gunakan jari A or maybe jari C sahaja utk move to the neck string.
- Habbit yg biasa utk mereka yg kaki pentetonic.
- So in this exercise kita sebenarnya mengukur berapa jauh the next string dari string asal kita tengah main.
- macam contoh diatas, kita berada pada string3, we need tu rasa amacam feel kalo nak lompat to next or next next string dari string3.
- dalam exercise ne, kita akan guna 3 dari 4 hari utama, contoh macam dalam pattern 4a, jariD yg tak bergerak tu bertindak sebagai anchor point.
- utk pattern 4b plak, jariA bertindak sebagai anchor point.
- Still u kena memorize the feel the motion dan bukan petikan dihasilkan.
- kita tengah ukur or memorize jarak antara tali sebenarnya. hahahahah.
Result
- anda akan rasa senang nak lompat lompat string even dari mana mana jari.
- Akan rasa senang nak tukar tukar chord pasal jari dah boleh agak the correct length between the string.
- tak nak la just hari awal or hujung jer boleh tukar jari.
Cuma.
- anda mungkin perlu potong kuku yaaaa.
- kakakkaka, jangan gigit plak.
- potong kuku lawo lawo, asah skit kasih smooth, baru la rasa selesa kat fret board.
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| Master-IB |
| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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lain mcm rasa pinky sejak main abcd 2 ari nih..  paneh semacam...
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| ultraman_cosmo |
| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:30 am Post subject: |
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Start ur SWEEP PICKING
Pattern 5.
- kat sini kita kita akan mulakan sweep picking nyer teknik.
- Kebanyakan pergerakan melibatkan turun naik the string.
- Pattern cam ne akan memudahkan kita utk perform chord.
- pattern 5a dan 5b kita boleh gabungkan so kita boleh create movement yg lebih complax.
- pattern 5c lebih kepada pelengkap sahaja.
- From pattern5 ini kita akan move to pattern6 yg merupakan apergious simulation nanti.
Instruction
- dalam pattern ne gua Sample1,2,3 dan 4.
- kalo korang ingat kesemua sample ini adalah seperti pattern1,2&3 terdahulu.
- cuma bezanya kali ini kita gunakan pergerakan sama tapi pada ABCD yg berada pada 4 string berbeza.
Sweep picking
- u all boleh google or utube ajer how kita perform ini sweep picking.
- Tapi gua tekankan beberapa pekara bila buat sweep picking.
- Picking, Feel the string while u petik every single note.
- And while picking a string, pastikan kita boleh mute string yg tak dimainkan dengan the right hand.
- Apply benda yg sama utk left hand, evertime kita tekan satu jari, pastikan hanya string tu yg boleh ringing dan other string sepatutnya mute.
- Kita sepatutnya bukan jer consentrate on how satu tali tu dipetik.
- Tapi kita kena juga ambik tau amacam the others tali should be mute.
- U boleh guna ur tumb utk muting the uper string.
- Muting string both left and right hand sebenarnya the secret utk perform the sweep picking dengan lebih berkesan.
- Tak per u just cuba petik dulu sebelom u nak apply a good sweeping teknik.
Sebenarnya, kalo u baru nak belajar scaling or kira beginner, gua nasihatkan, just consentrate to pick every note dalam pattern ne. Jangan terlalu consentrate dengan the perfect sweeping technik. Pasal, dalam exercise ini, kita punya goal adalah bukan utk kuasai teknik, TAPI just utk bagi jari kita boleh dikawal atau lebih dengar kata.
Extra
- U sentiasa boleh gabungkan pattern2 tersebut.
- jadi lah creative, always ask u self, what else gua tak bikin lagi,
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| ultraman_cosmo |
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arpeggios simulation
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| Kozam |
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| huzai |
| Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:38 am Post subject: |
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double post daaa
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| huzai |
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syabbas inspektor sahhab!!
tergeliat jari aku |
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| ultraman_cosmo |
| Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Kozam wrote: | | kalau ader instruction video pun best gak nih..aku nih ader problem baca gambarajah... |
- Kozam, lu master sifu, tak perlu buat benda cam ne. kakakkakaka
- kecik sangat tak nampak kaaaa.
- kalo kecik, gi kat bucu bawah sebelah kanan intenet explore tu.
- click kat 100% tukar ker 200%.
- Masa compress jpeg, gua memang pastikan itu gambar masih boleh dibaca walopun dibesar 200%.
- nanti gua tujuk kat lu, lu gi buat video yaaa... kakkakaka.
Bagi gua feedback samada ini exercise boleh bagi semua jari tu idup skit yaaa.
- Kalo rasa tak der faedah pun, gua tak berkecik hari. kakakkakaka
- Gua faham, lain orang lain la cara dan pendekatan utk pemahamannya.
So gua stop sampai sini dulu. Nanti dah senang gua sambung.
- just ulang ulang jer from pattern 1 to 6.
- Maybe next step kita write lain jenis exercise.
- But still jangan lupo practice ur scale, ur solo, ur apergios, ur riff dan ur song.
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| oRden |
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ohoo great stuff otromen..spt biasa kau dtg mnyelamatkn kmi haha..
neway..ad questions sketlah utk bro:
1. tme kte wat DCBA chromatic tu kan, kte kne wat 1-1 finger kn?
i mean ble pinky fret, yg len x fret, pstu ble jri mnis fret, pinky angkt, n jri lain pon x fret..btol ke?@ kne kkal pd konsep tulun mnulun, i.e. DCBA sume kt fret, just angkat 1-1, i.e. ble D fret, jri-jmari CBA pon fret gak, then D angkt, CBA fret, DC angkt, BA fret n so forth (cam bblit je ayt nih )
2. ble kte apply konsep tulung-mnulung tuh, tme pinky fret (ABCD pattern), sume jri-jmari trut 'mmeret' (mem-fret) skali kn?
btol ke klu ad org ckp thre wll b no wasted mvement, but how bout extra tnsion, i mean sume jri2 tu d apply tnsion ke fretboard, bkannye cme pinky je yg d tkan ke fretboard, yg buleh mnyebabkan tension brlebihan n prgrakan yg sdkit lmbat?
tq in advnced
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| ultraman_cosmo |
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| Quote: | 1. tme kte wat DCBA chromatic tu kan, kte kne wat 1-1 finger kn?
i mean ble pinky fret, yg len x fret, pstu ble jri mnis fret, pinky angkt, n jri lain pon x fret..btol ke?@ kne kkal pd konsep tulun mnulun, i.e. DCBA sume kt fret, just angkat 1-1, i.e. ble D fret, jri-jmari CBA pon fret gak, then D angkt, CBA fret, DC angkt, BA fret n so forth (cam bblit je ayt nih ) |
- Short form text nyebab gua kena baca 2 3 kali.
- Zaman gua remaja dlu belom ada sms lagi. kakakkakaka
- Masa DCBA, ini utk single string yaaa.
- kalo u tengah tekan jariD(pinky), pastikan jari lain berada pada fret fret sepatutnya.
- So jari ABC akan support jariD.
- Masa tekan pakai jariC(manis), jariA dan B sepatutnya berada pada fretnya, cuma jariD, kita angkat supaya tak kena the string.
- begitulah seterusnya.
- betul la macam u fikirkan.
- sebaik baiknya dalam pergerakan satu tali,
- masa jari D tekan all ABCD
- masa jari C tekan ABC
- masa jari B tekan AB
- dan masa jari A, kita tekan jari A ajer.
- betul la tu.
| Quote: | 2. ble kte apply konsep tulung-mnulung tuh, tme pinky fret (ABCD pattern), sume jri-jmari trut 'mmeret' (mem-fret) skali kn?
btol ke klu ad org ckp thre wll b no wasted mvement, but how bout extra tnsion, i mean sume jri2 tu d apply tnsion ke fretboard, bkannye cme pinky je yg d tkan ke fretboard, yg buleh mnyebabkan tension brlebihan n prgrakan yg sdkit lmbat? |
- betul juga cakap ko ne.
- Acually, dalam keadaan ABCD, hakikatnya sebenarnya semua jari yg tekan note tersebut.
- walopun yg kedengaran note disebabkan jariD, tapi jari yg lain sebenarnya bagi stabil utk pergelangan tangan anda,
- Try la just pinky on string dan semua jari lain kasih angkat.
- u kan rasakan payah nak tekan dan gengaman tangan kat neck jadi tak stabil. So u wont not dapat a solid note from ur pinky.
- bagi gua, tension pleh ABC semasa kita tekan D takkan menggangu the whole sequence.
- Kita tak tekan ABC sekuat kita tekan diorang masa kedududukan sebenarnya.
- kita kenakan light tension jer, cuma kita add more tension pada D.
- Without support dari ABC , jariD takan dapat tekan kuat.
- U sendiri akan buang the extra tension oleh jari jari lain yang tak berkaitan nanti.
- awal awal practise memang rasa pelik skit sebab kita lom dapat agihkan kekuatan yg betul utk setiap jari.
- Contoh nak tekan jariD tapi kekuatan ditumpukan kepada jari A la pulak.
- Utk tekan jariD, sebenarnya kita add more kekuatan utk D, manakala jari lain ABD sebenarnya just support dengan less tension.
- sebab utama kenapa our finger kena berada dalam satu line adalah, supaya kita boleh ada a better grip pada neck guitar.
- Sebenarnya kalo kita tak der better grip lagi payah nak move to other string.
Soalan bagus tu, Wa suka, ada feedback.
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| Master-IB |
| Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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trima kasih bro ultraman..saya rasa mmg ada perubahan pada jari..terutama pinky..
betul gak bro..bunyi tu tak penting..tapi kendian2 tu lepas 2/3 ari main benda yg sama, bunyi dia makin perfect tanpa disedari..
kiranya latihan ni beri kesan kepada saya... <--wulamak ayat
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